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Title: HAPPY2BME ANNOUNCES 2012 BID FOR WHITE HOUSE
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Published: Jun 4, 2011
Author: HAPPY2BME-4UM
Post Date: 2011-06-04 12:00:42 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 9565
Comments: 61

HAPPY2BME ANNOUNCES 2012 BID FOR WHITE HOUSE

Elect ME for President!

You have NOBODY who will represent you from either of the two major parties in 2012.
All they give you is empty promises, lip service, eyewash, and lies.

My promise to you:

I’ll stop ALL OUTSOURCING of American jobs.

I’llclose down the Federal Reserve.

I’ll make the FLAT TAX the law of the land and eliminate all other taxes.

I’ll pull us out of Iraq beginning this week.

I’ll do the same for Afghanistan.

I’ll close every base in Europe and most of those in Asia. I could pay off our 15 TRILLION $DEFICIT$ in less than six years with this new windfall.

I’ll bring all our troops home and give them jobs like we did after WWII.

I’ll put the rest of them on the MEXICAN BORDER.

Watch for my ads on FOX, CBC, ABC, and MSNBC

Taking volunteers …

HAPPY2BME

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#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

I like your platform. Can you eliminate that nickel tax on beer that Poppy Bush stuck us with?

If I had a nickel for every....

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-04   13:30:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#10) (Edited)

Can you eliminate that nickel tax on beer that Poppy Bush stuck us with?

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Thank you. Taxation will be fair, and all inclusive.

To start off, you will no longer suffer the usury of property or income tax.

There will be ONE FLAT TAX, paid at the cash register when you purchase goods or services.

When you buy that beer, car, house, business, or box of nails, the tax will be based upon the purchase price. And it will be a FAIR tax.

The days of PERPETUAL TAXATION on what you have already bought, and paid tax on are over.

I will place a mandatory ceiling of two percent on all credit card and other interest rates.

The days of raping Americans are over.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-04   13:40:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12)

To start off, you will no longer suffer the usury of property or income tax. There will be ONE FLAT TAX, paid at the cash register when you purchase goods or services.

A sales tax is particularly regressive and oppressive on the lower classes, because they buy almost as much in necessities as the rich in domestic retail stores -- food and other basic necessities. So the poor pay a greater proportion (than the rich) of their income in sales tax. As for non- necessities, the rich can purchase theirs abroad, where they can evade the US sales tax, while the lower classes will by their non-necessities mostly from domestic vendors and be hit with the sales tax that the rich are able to dodge.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-06-04   23:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Shoonra, HAPPY2BME-4UM, all (#30)

To start off, you will no longer suffer the usury of property or income tax. There will be ONE FLAT TAX, paid at the cash register when you purchase goods or services.

A sales tax is particularly regressive and oppressive on the lower classes, because they buy almost as much in necessities as the rich in domestic retail stores -- food and other basic necessities. So the poor pay a greater proportion (than the rich) of their income in sales tax. As for non- necessities, the rich can purchase theirs abroad, where they can evade the US sales tax, while the lower classes will by their non-necessities mostly from domestic vendors and be hit with the sales tax that the rich are able to dodge.

I have seen your argument before and there are several flaws in it.

1. Domestic Goods and Services already have a de facto Sales Tax (or VAT) already built in via a multitude of excise taxes and that little curiosity that the sucker class has never really figured out i.e., businesses don't pay taxes they collect taxes. Any business which did not pass on proportionate amount of their taxes in the price of their goods and/or services would not be in business very long.

2. The fallacy that the poor would be hit exceptionally hard is predicated upon a couple of major premises one of which is false and the other easily corrected.

When you simplify the tax system by going to a Sales Tax (and tariffs and excises) you immediately cut the price of the goods upon which the tax is paid. Yes, prices are sticky down, but by eliminating the tax load on producers (which includes the very expensive compliance burden of form filing etc.,) competition is going to rapidly adjust prices downward. I might note as an aside that the cost of compliance falls most heavily on SMALL Business as it represents, proportionally, a much greater expense in both time (which is thus taken from production) and money.

And the necessity argument can be handled by exempting raw unprocessed foodstuffs and a few other basic necessities as California does.

As for the class envy card i.e., "the rich would avoid it" ahemmm!!! They already do. There are so many tax dodges and breaks available to the very wealthy that they often pay NO income tax. At least under a Sales Tax regime they would pay something.

Play Again?

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-05   0:28:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent, Shoonra, X-15 (#46)

Yes, prices are sticky down, but by eliminating the tax load on producers (which includes the very expensive compliance burden of form filing etc.,) competition is going to rapidly adjust prices downward. I might note as an aside that the cost of compliance falls most heavily on SMALL Business as it represents, proportionally, a much greater expense in both time (which is thus taken from production) and money.

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I am taking applications for US Secretary of Commerce.

VETTING: Common sense, with an ardent and ultimate goal of eliminating the Federal Reserve and personal income and perpetual property taxes. Prefer a non-lawyer from the private sector.

2012

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-05   5:03:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#47)

I think you could do worse. I do not like private central banks run by unethical hoodlums in $10,000 suits. I despise property taxes. They are tantamount to a form of serfdom wherein the owner of a home must pay a perpetual rent to der state for the privilege of having a place to hang their hat and are further penalized for having the audacity of making improvements and creating a better place to live.

I think you would find our views sympatico enough to form a good working relationship.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-05   12:31:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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