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Title: Church opposes Philippines family planning
Source: Guardian, UK
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 11, 2011
Author: Sunshine Lichauco de Leon
Post Date: 2011-06-11 00:44:03 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 694
Comments: 32

The Philippine government is debating a reproductive health bill, but the Catholic church adamantly oppose the idea. At the Dr Jose Fabella Memorial hospital 300 proud mothers lie three to a bed, cradling their newborns. With up to 100 babies born every 24 hours here, this is one of the busiest maternity wards in the world.

"Sometimes, during high season, 13 to 16 babies are in the delivery room at the same time," Arlene Matanguihan, a resident doctor, says. "It's chaotic but an organised chaos. We can still manage – no baby drops out on the floor."

The doctors and staff may be proud of their work, but the Philippines' birth rate is another matter. With a population of 90 million, expanding at 1.9% annually, many people are asking whether the country can sustain the growth rate.

In the Philippines 90% of the people are devout Roman Catholic and the majority of the population does not have access to birth control methods.

In Congress politicians are now debating family planning legislation, under the responsible parenthood-reproductive health bill; if passed, the legislation could transform birth control in Asia's most populous Catholic country, allowing government health clinics to educate people about various birth control methods and give easy access to them.

But it is proving divisive. Although local surveys find that a majority of the public supports the bill's passage, the politically influential Catholic church has adamantly opposed it. Members of the Catholics Bishops Conference of the Philippines have openly campaigned against it, threatening civil disobedience and to excommunicate the president, Benigno Aquino III, who backs the bill.

The Church has implied that birth control is the equivalent of abortion, which remains illegal in the country. CBCP's Father Melvin Castro says, "We are opposing God's will to procreate."

But politicians such as Congressman Edcel Lagman, author of the bill in the House of Representatives believe that access to family planning information and services will have both a positive immediate impact and a ripple effect on the country. Lagman believes the bill is both human rights based and a health measure.

"It will help give parents the chance to exercise their right to free and responsibly plan the number and spacing of their children, and help improve maternal newborn education and reduce infant and maternal mortality," Lagman says. "It will also give women more opportunities to finish their education and secure productive work, help reduce poverty by curbing the population growth rate and help reduce abortion by preventing unwanted pregnancies."

Even the country's President Aquino has voiced his support for this more comprehensive approach to future development of the country: "I know some sectors are against this bill, but it is the right thing to do. "It is right to educate our people, instead of holding them hostage to the scant resources available to them."

Politicians opposed to the bill, such as the representative Karlo Nograles, believe that its mandatory requirements go against free choice, and that the measure "creates more dangers than solutions". He believes that proposed mandatory sex education for children at the age of 11 will "violate the freedom of religion".

But Matanguihan agrees with the bill. A lot of her patients are from the poorest of backgrounds "and can't really afford to raise four or five children".

She said they needed to consider contraception to take better care of the children they already had in their family.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

as usual, the Catholic church is still the primary opponent of the abortionists/eugenecists, as admiited by Margaret Sanger to Mike wallace in that famous 1960s tv interview.

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-11   22:50:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#1)

You're opposed to birth control pills?

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-11   22:54:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: abraxas (#2)

yes, with good reason. Many times (& this is admitted by an increasing # of prolife protestant doctors) the pills do not prevent conception. but rather implantation, which is in effect an abortion.There are natural ways to prevent conception if need be.

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-12   9:40:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

the pills do not prevent conception. but rather implantation

This is only when a high dose of birth control pills are marketed and taken as the "morning after" pill, not through regular use of birth control pills which 99% of the time, when taken properly, prevent conception.

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-12   11:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#6)

Absolutely false. No, i am not referring to RU486, the socalled morning after pill. Regular everyday birth control pills prevent implantation, not conception. This is widely acknowledged by even the pro-aborts. A 10 second search will reveal this truth

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-12   11:32:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#8)

Regular everyday birth control pills prevent implantation, not conception.

No, the pill works to prevent ovulation--no egg/no conception. Progesterone and Estrogen are the hormones in the pill that work by keeping a woman’s ovaries from releasing eggs — ovulation. Pregnancy cannot happen if there is no egg to join with sperm. The hormones in the pill also prevent pregnancy by thickening a woman’s cervical mucus. The mucus blocks sperm and keeps it from joining with an egg.

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-12   11:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#11)

there may be times when there is no conception, but by no means do birth control pills prevent conception every time. Matter of fact, the opposite is true. Usually, there is indeed conception, but the pills prevent implantation,. (thus, its an abortion). Like i said before, this "painful truth" (painful to the abortionists, if their billions of unwitting pawns find out about it and have their conscience twinged) is widely admitted by even the pro abort doctors, as well as increasingly by the protestant preechers, who up until decades ago, opposed birth control just like the Catholics did. protestant acceptance of artificial birth control is a relatively new thing.

You can type in the words birth control abortifacient in a google search. Here it is!: birth control abortifacient I will get the Scriptures for you in a bit.

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-12   12:48:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#12)

this "painful truth"

Usually, there is indeed conception, but the pills prevent implantation

I don't know where you get your information, but I am a woman who has dealt with this issue. I have a long history of amenorrhœa and when the egg fails to drop there is NO CHANCE of conception.

Projestogen based BC pills actually create amenorrhoea: Hormonal contraceptives that contain only progestogen like the oral contraceptive Micronor, and especially higher-dose formulations like the injectable Depo Provera commonly induce this side-effect. Extended cycle use of combined hormonal contraceptives also allow suppression of menstruation.

Conception requires AN EGG. How you can argue this is beyond me....... Sorry, Artisan, but the "painful truth" is that you don't know much about women's cycles or hormones or even what is required for conception. In any BC pill that works on the hormonal aspect, the egg isn't dropping.....no egg/no conception. Simple fact.

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-12   13:02:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas (#15)

i guess you have never read the insert of the birth control pills themselves. they admit that pills can allow conception, and prevent implantation. I know exactly what i am talking about,. The head of medical schools admit it. do a two second search. and the fact that you continually refuse to acknowledge what the abortion advocates THEMSELVES CONCEDE, raises other questions. Are you claiming that any woman who ever took a birth control pill can with absolutely 100% certainty not conceieve? if so, that is blatant hogwash acknowledged by both the pro life and plannned parenthood people. You will have to explain where you heard this false info, and dispute it for yourself. Because i am not confused in the least about how birth control pills cause millions of abortions. Of course you will probably again ignore all the billions of links acknowledging this, so our discussion is apparently at an impasse.

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-12   13:17:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#17)

The insert clearly states that the pill must be taken at the same time everyday to prevent conception. If this is done, the effective rate at conception prevention is 99% and this is for Estrogen plus Progesterone pills. This secondary concern of yours arises when the pill is not taken consistently.

Women who take only progesterone based BC do not ovulate and therefore cannot get pregnant. No egg~no conception. So, the Catholic Church should advocate this type of BC that has no POSSIBILITY of hormones working to keep an egg from implanting because the egg dropping is prevented by the hormone.

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-12   13:44:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: abraxas (#18)

So, the Catholic Church should advocate this type of BC that has no POSSIBILITY of hormones working to keep an egg from implanting because the egg dropping is prevented by the hormone.

it's not only the possibility of an abortion occurring that is the theological reason in opposition to artificial birth control. Even if a pill was 100% effective in sabotagueing conception, it is still morally wrong. I pasted in the long post above the scripture references that you asked for. There is actually a disagreement amonst some Catholics that even the Catholic NFP approved method is wrong because it should only be done for 'severe' & grave reasons. Nevertheless, NFP is approved, & despite being very effective, it still leaves open the remote possibility of pregnancy.

Many women do not like the side effects of a pill. If a woman doesnt want to use pills, an ovulation test is a simple way to see if they are likely to become pregnant. the NFP class also teaches couples how to know the womans body more intimately. If a woman does not have a regular menstrual cycle, the NFP method becomes more difficult. This is not addressed adequately in the NFP classes, in my opinion. especially since many women nowdays for various reasons, do not have regular cycles. this is where the ovulation test comes in.

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-12   14:04:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#22)

it is still morally wrong

Condoms stop the sperm.......are they "morally wrong" too? The rhythm method works to stop fertility is this "morally wrong" too? IUD's stop conception are they "morally wrong" too?

abraxas  posted on  2011-06-12   14:34:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: abraxas (#29)

Aside our bickering about the effects of pills, which is accomplishing nothing since we will never believe each other, the immorality of artificial birth control is very cut & dried. The Scriptural references in #14 you dismissed entirely also, although i doubt you looked even one of them up. (note that the references do not list the scripture itself). ARtificial birth control is immoral because the person is playing God, and thwarting God, nature, and the purpose of the conjugal act. NFP is not immoral, because it leaves open the possibility of life without killing it (unlike pills, iud etc).

Also, why do you state that the iud prevents conception? It possibly does, but possibly does not, as even the mainstream pregnancy websites admit that it works by both methods! The fact that you "conveniently" completely disregarded this 2nd way IUD works simply shows that you are biased possibly without even realizing it!:

www.america http://npregnancy.org/preventingpregnancy/iud.html How do intrauterine devices work? The progesterone intrauterine device releases a constant low dose of a synthetic hormone continually throughout the day. Both the progesterone IUD and copper IUD prevent pregnancy in one of two ways:

The released progesterone or copper creates changes in the cervical mucus and inside the uterus that kills sperm or makes them immobile. Changes the lining of the uterus, preventing implantation should fertilization occur. Ethical Consideration.

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