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Title: 7 surprising things you're not supposed to know about sunscreen and sunlight exposure
Source: NaturalNews
URL Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/z032815_sunscreen_chemicals.html
Published: Jun 26, 2011
Author: Mike Adams
Post Date: 2011-06-26 20:38:30 by Esso
Keywords: None
Views: 244
Comments: 24

7 surprising things you're not supposed to know about sunscreen and sunlight exposure

by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) Ask somebody about sunscreen and you're likely to receive an earful of disinformation from a person who has been repeatedly misinformed by health authorities and the mainstream media. Almost nothing you hear about sunscreen from traditional media channels is accurate. So here's a quick guide to the 7 most important things you need to know about sunscreen, sunlight and vitamin D:

#1) The FDA refuses to allow natural sunscreen ingredients to be used in sunblock / sunscreen products It's true: If you create a truly natural sunscreen product using exotic botanicals with powerful sunscreen properties, you will never be able to market it as a "sunscreen" product. That's because the FDA decides what can be used as sunscreen and what can't, regardless of what really works in the real world. And there are really only two natural ingredients the FDA has allowed to be sold as sunscreen: Zinc oxide and titanium dioxide.

Any other non-chemical sunscreen ingredients, if sold as "sunscreen," would be considered mislabeled by the FDA and result in your products being confiscated... even if they offer fantastic sunscreen protection!

Not surprisingly, this whole monopoly over sunscreen chemicals is designed to protect the profits of the chemical companies while marginalizing the natural product companies which could easily formulate far better solutions. I have personally spoken to the founders of several health product companies who have figured out amazing sunscreen formulations using nothing but natural botanicals, but the FDA won't let them market their products as sunscreen products!

It's just another example of the FDA standing in the way of health innovation.

#2) Nearly all conventional sunscreen products contain cancer-causing chemicals Read the ingredients list of any sunscreen product sold at Wal-Mart, or Walgreens, or any other mainstream store. I dare ya!

You will not be able to pronounce most of the chemicals found in the ingredients list. That's because most sunscreen products are formulated with cancer-causing fragrance chemicals, parabens, harsh alcohols, toxic chemical solvents and petroleum oils. A typical sunscreen product is actually a chemical assault on your body. That's why research shows that using sunscreen actually causes more cancer than it prevents (http://www.naturalnews.com/023317_s...).

#3) In a nation where over 70% of the population is vitamin D deficiency, sunscreen actually blocks vitamin D production Vitamin D deficiency is perhaps the most widespread vitamin deficiency in North America. According to the research, 70 percent of whites are deficient in vitamin D, and up to 97 percent of blacks are deficient (http://www.naturalnews.com/030598_v...).

Chronic vitamin D deficiency promotes cancer (http://www.naturalnews.com/031560_v...), winter flu and infections, depression, osteoporosis and hormonal imbalances. Depending on whom you believe, vitamin D alone can prevent anywhere from 50% to nearly 80% of all cancers (http://www.naturalnews.com/021892.html).

By blocking vitamin D production in the skin, sunscreen products actually contribute to cancer-promoting nutritional deficiencies.

This doesn't mean you should never wear a sunscreen product, of course. If your skin is really pale and you're planning a day on the beach in Hawaii, you will obviously benefit from some level of sun protection using a truly natural sunscreen product. But an informed health-conscious person would try to allow their skin to achieve a natural, healthy tan (yes, a tan truly is healthy if it's combined with good nutrition, see below) through sensible exposure levels that activate vitamin D production in the skin.

#4) You can boost your internal sun resistance by changing what you eat Here's the real secret about sun exposure that no one in conventional medicine is talking about (because, as usual, they are woefully ignorant about nutrition): You can boost your internal sunscreen by eating antioxidant-rich foods and superfoods.

The supplement astaxanthin, for example, is very well known for boosting your skin's natural resistance to sunburn. Its fat-soluble carotenoids are actually transported to skin cells where they protect those cells from UV exposure.

The more natural antioxidants you have in your diet, the more sunlight your skin will be able to handle without burning. Nearly everyone mistakenly believes that a person's sunlight burn response is purely a genetic factor. They're wrong. You can radically improve your resistance to UV exposure through radical dietary changes.

I'm a great example of this, actually, as I used to burn in just 20 - 30 minutes of sunlight when I was on a junk food diet years ago. But now, as someone who eats superfoods and high-end nutritional supplements every day, I can spend hours in the sun and will only turn slightly red (which fades a few hours later and does not result in a burn or skin peeling).

Except for one time on an all-day visit to a water park, I have not worn sunscreen in over 8 years. I spend a large amount of time in the sun, and I have absolutely no concerns whatsoever about skin cancer. My skin, most people tell me, looks significantly younger than my biological age. That's not from sunscreen; it's from nutrition. Sun exposure does not make your skin "age" if you follow a high-nutritional density diet.

#5) UV exposure alone does not cause skin cancer It is a complete medical myth that "UV exposure causes skin cancer." This false idea is a total fabrication by the ignorant medical community (dermatologists) and the profit-driven sunscreen companies.

The truth is actually more complicated: Skin cancer can only be caused when UV exposure is combined with chronic nutritional deficiencies that create skin vulnerabilities.

To create skin cancer, in other words, you have to eat a junk food diet, avoid protective antioxidants, and then also experience excessive UV exposure. All three of those elements are required. Conventional medicine completely ignores the dietary influences and focuses entirely on just one factor: Sunscreen vs. no sunscreen. This is a one-dimensional approach to the issue that's grossly oversimplified to the point of being misleading.

The medical industry, it seems, does not want people to figure out they can literally eat their way to healthier skin. It's amazing, actually: Your skin is made entirely out of the food you eat, so how could your diet not affect your skin health? Yet no one in conventional medicine -- not the dermatologists, not the doctors and not the health regulators -- has the intellectual honesty to admit that what you eat largely determines how your skin reacts to UV exposure.

#6) Not all "natural" sunscreen products are really natural Be careful when shopping for so-called "natural" sunscreen products. While there are some good ones out there, many are just examples of greenwashing, where they use terms like "natural" or "organic" but still contain loads of synthetic chemicals anyway.

A good guide for checking on sunscreen products is the Environmental Working Group guide (EWG) at: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

Some of the products that are truly natural include Loving Naturals sunscreen and Badger All Natural Sunscreen. Read the ingredients labels to see for yourself. Don't use any sunscreen product containing ingredients that sound like chemicals:

• Methyl...
• Propyl...
• Butyl...
• Ethyl...
• Trieth...
• Dieth...
etc.

Always buy unscented sunscreen unless for some reason you just enjoy coating your skin with artificial perfume chemicals. A typical sunscreen product is made with over a dozen cancer-causing fragrance chemicals, and they're absorbed right through your skin. Most sunscreens, when applied as directed, are really just toxic chemical baths that heavily burden your liver and can give you cancer.

#7) Many "chemical free" sunscreens are loaded with chemicals Search Amazon.com for "chemical free natural sunscreen" and you'll see a listing for:

Jason Natural Cosmetics - Earth's Best Sun Block Chemical Free, 4 oz cream

Click on the product and you'll find a listing of its ingredients which includes: C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Sorbitan Isostearate, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, Ethylhexyl Palmitate, Ethyl Macadamiate, Calcium Starch Octenylsuccinate, Stearalkonium Hectorite

So how are those not chemicals? Ethylhexyl Palmitate is NOT a chemical? Who are these people kidding? The Amazon.com description (title) of this product is false and misleading. In all fairness, however, this product title looks like it was added into the Amazon.com system by the vendor and not the Jason company itself. But it's an example of how the information you see from online vendors can often be misleading.

Always read the ingredients of any sunscreen product before using it. Don't poison yourself with sunscreen!

Beware the disinfo minefield surrounding sunscreen products Perhaps more with sunscreen than any other personal care product, the "official" information distributed through the mainstream media is hopelessly misleading (if not downright false). Remarkably, no one in the media or the government is even willing to admit that fragrance chemicals are bad for your health. Similarly, no one is willing to admit that the chemicals you put on your skin get ABSORBED by your skin.

Without those two truths being acknowledged right up front, the rest of whatever they say about sunscreen is worthless babble. Any honest talk about sunscreen must acknowledge the simple truth that the chemicals you put on your skin get absorbed into your skin, and that most sunscreen products are made out of a chemical cocktail of cancer-causing substances.

This is the truth about sunscreen that both the sunscreen industry and the cancer industry doesn't want you to hear. It's the dirty little secret of sunscreen: The more you use, the more you CAUSE cancer in your body! (And the more money the cancer centers make "treating" your cancer with yet more deadly chemicals known as chemotherapy.)

So buyer beware. Sunscreen products are a minefield of lies, fraud and disinformation designed to keep you ignorant of the importance of sun exposure as well as the health risks associated with using cancer-causing chemicals on your skin.

Stick with truly natural sunscreen products (when needed) and try to build up a healthy tan while consuming large quantities of superfoods and antioxidants in your diet. Consider taking astaxanthin or other fat-soluble nutrients on a regular basis. Engage in daily juicing of fresh fruits and vegetables which are loaded with living nutrients. Time your sun exposure to build up a healthy tan so that you don't need sunscreen at all. Contrary to all the misinformation we've all been fed, a healthy tan is actually a good sign that you're achieving adequate vitamin D synthesis in your own skin.


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#1. To: Esso (#0)

good info. i'm glad he named a few all natural sunscreens too.

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christine  posted on  2011-06-26   21:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso (#0)

Is there a reason for not posting working links here?

Thanks.

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#3. To: Lod (#2)

the url link works for me

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#4. To: Esso (#0)

#1) The FDA refuses to allow natural sunscreen ingredients to be used in sunblock / sunscreen products

Par


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#5. To: Lod (#2)

Is there a reason for not posting working links here?

If you mean the links embedded in the article, it's too much work. The autolink won't work on the abreviated URLs. I figured that if anyone wanted to look at the embedded links they could go to the URL source.

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Esso  posted on  2011-06-26   22:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#2)

Working links for you Sir Lod. ;)

7 surprising things you're not supposed to know about sunscreen and sunlight exposure by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) Ask somebody about sunscreen and you're likely to receive an earful of disinformation from a person who has been repeatedly misinformed by health authorities and the mainstream media. Almost nothing you hear about sunscreen from traditional media channels is accurate. So here's a quick guide to the 7 most important things you need to know about sunscreen, sunlight and vitamin D:

#1) The FDA refuses to allow natural sunscreen ingredients to be used in sunblock / sunscreen products

It's true: If you create a truly natural sunscreen product using exotic botanicals with powerful sunscreen properties, you will never be able to market it as a "sunscreen" product. That's because the FDA decides what can be used as sunscreen and what can't, regardless of what really works in the real world. And there are really only two natural ingredients the FDA has allowed to be sold as sunscreen: Zinc oxide and titanium dioxide.

Any other non-chemical sunscreen ingredients, if sold as "sunscreen," would be considered mislabeled by the FDA and result in your products being confiscated... even if they offer fantastic sunscreen protection!

Not surprisingly, this whole monopoly over sunscreen chemicals is designed to protect the profits of the chemical companies while marginalizing the natural product companies which could easily formulate far better solutions. I have personally spoken to the founders of several health product companies who have figured out amazing sunscreen formulations using nothing but natural botanicals, but the FDA won't let them market their products as sunscreen products!

It's just another example of the FDA standing in the way of health innovation.

#2) Nearly all conventional sunscreen products contain cancer-causing chemicals

Read the ingredients list of any sunscreen product sold at Wal-Mart, or Walgreens, or any other mainstream store. I dare ya!

You will not be able to pronounce most of the chemicals found in the ingredients list. That's because most sunscreen products are formulated with cancer-causing fragrance chemicals, parabens, harsh alcohols, toxic chemical solvents and petroleum oils. A typical sunscreen product is actually a chemical assault on your body. That's why research shows that using sunscreen actually causes more cancer than it prevents (http://www.naturalnews.com/023317_s...).

#3) In a nation where over 70% of the population is vitamin D deficiency, sunscreen actually blocks vitamin D production

Vitamin D deficiency is perhaps the most widespread vitamin deficiency in North America. According to the research, 70 percent of whites are deficient in vitamin D, and up to 97 percent of blacks are deficient (http://www.naturalnews.com/030598_v...).

Chronic vitamin D deficiency promotes cancer (http://www.naturalnews.com/031560_v...), winter flu and infections, depression, osteoporosis and hormonal imbalances. Depending on whom you believe, vitamin D alone can prevent anywhere from 50% to nearly 80% of all cancers (http://www.naturalnews.com/021892.html).

By blocking vitamin D production in the skin, sunscreen products actually contribute to cancer-promoting nutritional deficiencies.

This doesn't mean you should never wear a sunscreen product, of course. If your skin is really pale and you're planning a day on the beach in Hawaii, you will obviously benefit from some level of sun protection using a truly natural sunscreen product. But an informed health-conscious person would try to allow their skin to achieve a natural, healthy tan (yes, a tan truly is healthy if it's combined with good nutrition, see below) through sensible exposure levels that activate vitamin D production in the skin.

#4) You can boost your internal sun resistance by changing what you eat

Here's the real secret about sun exposure that no one in conventional medicine is talking about (because, as usual, they are woefully ignorant about nutrition): You can boost your internal sunscreen by eating antioxidant-rich foods and superfoods.

The supplement astaxanthin, for example, is very well known for boosting your skin's natural resistance to sunburn. Its fat-soluble carotenoids are actually transported to skin cells where they protect those cells from UV exposure.

The more natural antioxidants you have in your diet, the more sunlight your skin will be able to handle without burning. Nearly everyone mistakenly believes that a person's sunlight burn response is purely a genetic factor. They're wrong. You can radically improve your resistance to UV exposure through radical dietary changes.

I'm a great example of this, actually, as I used to burn in just 20 - 30 minutes of sunlight when I was on a junk food diet years ago. But now, as someone who eats superfoods and high-end nutritional supplements every day, I can spend hours in the sun and will only turn slightly red (which fades a few hours later and does not result in a burn or skin peeling).

Except for one time on an all-day visit to a water park, I have not worn sunscreen in over 8 years. I spend a large amount of time in the sun, and I have absolutely no concerns whatsoever about skin cancer. My skin, most people tell me, looks significantly younger than my biological age. That's not from sunscreen; it's from nutrition. Sun exposure does not make your skin "age" if you follow a high-nutritional density diet.

#5) UV exposure alone does not cause skin cancer

It is a complete medical myth that "UV exposure causes skin cancer." This false idea is a total fabrication by the ignorant medical community (dermatologists) and the profit-driven sunscreen companies.

The truth is actually more complicated: Skin cancer can only be caused when UV exposure is combined with chronic nutritional deficiencies that create skin vulnerabilities.

To create skin cancer, in other words, you have to eat a junk food diet, avoid protective antioxidants, and then also experience excessive UV exposure. All three of those elements are required. Conventional medicine completely ignores the dietary influences and focuses entirely on just one factor: Sunscreen vs. no sunscreen. This is a one-dimensional approach to the issue that's grossly oversimplified to the point of being misleading.

The medical industry, it seems, does not want people to figure out they can literally eat their way to healthier skin. It's amazing, actually: Your skin is made entirely out of the food you eat, so how could your diet not affect your skin health? Yet no one in conventional medicine -- not the dermatologists, not the doctors and not the health regulators -- has the intellectual honesty to admit that what you eat largely determines how your skin reacts to UV exposure.

#6) Not all "natural" sunscreen products are really natural

Be careful when shopping for so-called "natural" sunscreen products. While there are some good ones out there, many are just examples of greenwashing, where they use terms like "natural" or "organic" but still contain loads of synthetic chemicals anyway.

A good guide for checking on sunscreen products is the Environmental Working Group guide (EWG) at:
http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

Some of the products that are truly natural include Loving Naturals sunscreen and Badger All Natural Sunscreen. Read the ingredients labels to see for yourself. Don't use any sunscreen product containing ingredients that sound like chemicals:

• Methyl...
• Propyl...
• Butyl...
• Ethyl...
• Trieth...
• Dieth...
etc.

Always buy unscented sunscreen unless for some reason you just enjoy coating your skin with artificial perfume chemicals. A typical sunscreen product is made with over a dozen cancer-causing fragrance chemicals, and they're absorbed right through your skin. Most sunscreens, when applied as directed, are really just toxic chemical baths that heavily burden your liver and can give you cancer.

#7) Many "chemical free" sunscreens are loaded with chemicals

Search Amazon.com for "chemical free natural sunscreen" and you'll see a listing for:

Jason Natural Cosmetics - Earth's Best Sun Block Chemical Free, 4 oz cream

Click on the product and you'll find a listing of its ingredients which includes: C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Sorbitan Isostearate, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, Ethylhexyl Palmitate, Ethyl Macadamiate, Calcium Starch Octenylsuccinate, Stearalkonium Hectorite

So how are those not chemicals? Ethylhexyl Palmitate is NOT a chemical? Who are these people kidding? The Amazon.com description (title) of this product is false and misleading. In all fairness, however, this product title looks like it was added into the Amazon.com system by the vendor and not the Jason company itself. But it's an example of how the information you see from online vendors can often be misleading.

Always read the ingredients of any sunscreen product before using it. Don't poison yourself with sunscreen!

Beware the disinfo minefield surrounding sunscreen products

Perhaps more with sunscreen than any other personal care product, the "official" information distributed through the mainstream media is hopelessly misleading (if not downright false). Remarkably, no one in the media or the government is even willing to admit that fragrance chemicals are bad for your health. Similarly, no one is willing to admit that the chemicals you put on your skin get ABSORBED by your skin.

Without those two truths being acknowledged right up front, the rest of whatever they say about sunscreen is worthless babble. Any honest talk about sunscreen must acknowledge the simple truth that the chemicals you put on your skin get absorbed into your skin, and that most sunscreen products are made out of a chemical cocktail of cancer-causing substances.

This is the truth about sunscreen that both the sunscreen industry and the cancer industry doesn't want you to hear. It's the dirty little secret of sunscreen: The more you use, the more you CAUSE cancer in your body! (And the more money the cancer centers make "treating" your cancer with yet more deadly chemicals known as chemotherapy.)

So buyer beware. Sunscreen products are a minefield of lies, fraud and disinformation designed to keep you ignorant of the importance of sun exposure as well as the health risks associated with using cancer-causing chemicals on your skin.

Stick with truly natural sunscreen products (when needed) and try to build up a healthy tan while consuming large quantities of superfoods and antioxidants in your diet. Consider taking astaxanthin or other fat-soluble nutrients on a regular basis. Engage in daily juicing of fresh fruits and vegetables which are loaded with living nutrients. Time your sun exposure to build up a healthy tan so that you don't need sunscreen at all. Contrary to all the misinformation we've all been fed, a healthy tan is actually a good sign that you're achieving adequate vitamin D synthesis in your own skin.

Learn more about sunlight and vitamin D with these two resources:

FREE report: The truth about sunlight and vitamin D (http://www.naturalnews.com/rr-sunli...).

FREE video: The Truth About Sunlight, Cancer and Vitamin D
http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=5A62F...

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RickyJ  posted on  2011-06-27   0:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#0)

A good guide for checking on sunscreen products is the Environmental Working Group guide (EWG)

breakingnews.ewg.org/2011sunsc reen/

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X-15  posted on  2011-06-27   1:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine, abraxas, farmfriend, CadetD, ratcat, Phant2000, Octavia, All Women (#1)

good info. i'm glad he named a few all natural sunscreens too.

Here is a book you might want to consider: Beauty To Die For.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-27   1:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#0)

Interesting info.
I use ALOT of sunscreen and insect repellent (deet or picaridin). I hike on a nature trail nude at least once a week. So my entire body gets covered with the sprays. Without sunscreen I burn.
After hiking for a few hours I take a shower to wash the stuff off.
I also take a D supplement.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   1:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, Original_Intent, abraxas, Armadillo (#1)

Ok I had to look because Burts Bees sells a natural sunscreen. It is the titanium oxide.

I just stay out of the sun. With my skin, it is the better option.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-06-27   1:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#5)

Is there a reason for not posting working links here?

If you mean the links embedded in the article, it's too much work. The autolink won't work on the abreviated URLs. I figured that if anyone wanted to look at the embedded links they could go to the URL source.

There is an easy way to do it:

Highlight the article you want to copy.

Right Click on the highlighted text - that should bring up a menu of options - the one you want is "view selection source" which will open a window with the html source code highlighted.

Ctrl C to copy the highlighted code.

Paste that into the article posting block at 4um

Now you have copied everything including the links. Unfortunately it will also copy any embedded ads - which I have learned to spot the code for and edit out.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-27   1:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Armadillo (#9)

I never use sunscreen. And have used it only very rarely in the past. Despite having light skin I generally only burn a little bit early in the season - but I do eat (most of the time) a fairly healthy diet.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-27   1:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#7)

breakingnews.ewg.org/2011sunsc reen/

That site says the sunscreen I use, Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Body Mist SPF 100+, has a "7" hazard rating.
One I used to use, Coppertone ultraGUARD Spray SPF 70+, also has a "7" hazard rating but has better UVA/UVB balance.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   1:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Armadillo (#13)

the burts bees have a 4 but they only go up to 30.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-06-27   1:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#12)

I never use sunscreen. And have used it only very rarely in the past. Despite having light skin I generally only burn a little bit early in the season - but I do eat (most of the time) a fairly healthy diet.

The sun is probably a bit stronger here. I've already had full body sunburn twice this year while not wearing sunscreen.
Something I've noticed, while the sunscreens stop me from burning, I get more and more small new moles popping up.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   1:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Armadillo (#15)

Something I've noticed, while the sunscreens stop me from burning, I get more and more small new moles popping up.

I have a few but not all that many. One thing you need to watch for on the moles is whether they are pre-cancerous melanoma. Personally, on the rare occasions I get a burn I just put a good moisturizer with aloe on it and it is usually fine in a day or two. The only really bad burns I've gotten have been playing in the water at high altitudes - above a mile above sea level. I had one where my entire back blistered. That one was a definite ouch. Otherwise growing up I spent a lot of time fishing with no shirt and wading in shorts with generally nothing more that a moderate burn or two early in the summer.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-27   1:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Armadillo (#13)

Anything above SPF 30 is a total waste of money, there aren't enough hours of daylight on earth to use it: assuming that you'll burn after 30 minutes, SPF 30 will give you 15 hours of protection. If your skin is really fair, the only thing useful above SPF 30 is sunblock.

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X-15  posted on  2011-06-27   1:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent, Armadillo (#16)

I wear short sleeves year round and so my arms are fairly tan despite my white skin. One thing I have noticed the past few years is that the tan is not even. I'm getting what I call old lady mottling. Uneven tan, white spots and freckling.

My worst burn was in Hawaii. I have such clear skin that my burns go deep and that tropical sun burnt all my muscles and tendons. The last time I went I did not go in the sun at all. I do not lay out and the few times I am out in the sun I wear sun screen but those times are rare.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-06-27   1:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#14)

I have not tried Burts sunscreen but I did try their bug repellent in the past. The stuff was a sticky icky mess, and wasnt very effective.
If I find some Burts sunscreen somewhere I'll give it a try. Spf 30 is probably good enough for shade/sun hiking.
Not sure if 3.5 oz is enough to cover my entire body.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   1:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Armadillo (#19)

I've never seen a bug repellent.


"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause." -Padme, Star Wars III, Sith

farmfriend  posted on  2011-06-27   1:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend (#20)

I've never seen a bug repellent.

www.burtsbees.com/natural...bal-insect-repellent.html
A reviewer on the site has the same complaint as me, it's icky.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   2:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#18)

I wear short sleeves year round and so my arms are fairly tan despite my white skin. One thing I have noticed the past few years is that the tan is not even. I'm getting what I call old lady mottling. Uneven tan, white spots and freckling.

My worst burn was in Hawaii. I have such clear skin that my burns go deep and that tropical sun burnt all my muscles and tendons. The last time I went I did not go in the sun at all. I do not lay out and the few times I am out in the sun I wear sun screen but those times are rare.

This time of the year I am out a lot, and never wear a long shirt, but I do avoid the mid-day sun. (Only Mad Dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun. ...) Generally I do any heavy work early in the morning, and watering should be done before noon to prevent damage to your plants. I also keep an eye on the amount of full sun exposure and will limit it on really hot days.

I've never been one to lay out and "tan". I tried it a few times to build up my tan - borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggg.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-06-27   2:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#22)

borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggg.

Yeah that's about what I got out of it. Plus I just get too friggin hot!


"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause." -Padme, Star Wars III, Sith

farmfriend  posted on  2011-06-27   3:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#22) (Edited)

I've never been one to lay out and "tan". I tried it a few times to build up my tan - borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringggggggggg.

In Flawda, a half hour on a summer day will cook you.
Dont have to try to tan, it just happens.

I take lots of St Johns Wort, which makes skin photosensitve (not why I take it).
I've gotten a nice full-body tan with no effort at all. And that's with spf 100 for half the day.



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Armadillo  posted on  2011-06-27   20:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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