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Title: $20.2 Billion - Cost of air conditioning for U.S. troops in MidEast more than NASA budget
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/ ... mideast-more-than-nasa-budget/
Published: Jun 26, 2011
Author: By Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-06-26 23:43:44 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Cost of air conditioning for U.S. troops in MidEast more than NASA budget

The United States spends $20.2 billion annually on air conditioning for troops stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan — more than NASA's entire budget, NPR reported.

In fact, the same amount of money that keeps soldiers cool is the amount the G-8 has committed to helping the fledgling democracies in Tunisia and Egypt.

The necessary cooling costs so much because of the remote locations and danger involved in delivery equipment and fuel, Steven Anderson, a retired logistician who served under Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq.

"When you consider the cost to deliver the fuel to some of the most isolated places in the world — escorting, command and control, medevac support — when you throw all that infrastructure in, we're talking over $20 billion," Anderson told NPR. "You've got risks that are associated with moving the fuel almost every mile of the way."

And it's a long way to move the fuel: 800 miles of "improved goat trails" separate Karachi, where the fuel is shipped in, to Afghanistan. The transport takes 18 days.

By embracing green practices, Anderson said, money and soldiers' lives could be saved: more than 1,000 troops have died while transporting fuel. Their trucks are a popular target, and commanders have to stop their operations to leave and go on fuel runs. When they're gone, he said, the insurgents know they're gone, and the U.S. troops lose ground in their missions.

Experiments have been conducted using polyurethane foam insulation in the tents to shield soldiers from the 125-degree heat of the Middle East, cutting energy use by 92 percent. However, nobody is enthusiastic about taking initiative to green the military.

"A simple policy signed by the secretary of defense — a one- or two-page memo, saying we will no longer build anything other than energy-efficient structures in Iraq and Afghanistan — would have a profound impact," Anderson said. Subscribe to *US INDUSTRIAL WAR MACHINE*

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Wired mag reports that the gas the US consumes in A costs the taxpayer $one thousand dollars a gallons.

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tom007  posted on  2011-06-26   23:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

While I certainly don't begrudge providing the basics of life for our troops in the Middle East, I certainly DO BEGRUDGE OUR GOVERNMENT for forcing them to live in an upside down world fighting for causes nobody wants while their own country has been invaded by tens of millions of Mexicans.

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Post Date: 2011-06-04 12:00:42 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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HAPPY2BME ANNOUNCES 2012 BID FOR WHITE HOUSE Elect ME for President! You have NOBODY who will represent you from either of the two major parties in 2012. All they give you is empty promises, lip service, eyewash, and lies.My promise to you: I’ll stop ALL OUTSOURCING of American jobs. I’llclose down the Federal Reserve. I’ll make the FLAT TAX the law of the land and eliminate all other taxes. I’ll pull us out of Iraq beginning this week. I’ll do the same for Afghanistan. I’ll close every base in Europe and most of those in Asia. I could pay off our 15 TRILLION $DEFICIT$ in less than six years with this new windfall. I’ll bring all our troops home and ...

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-26   23:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

"A simple policy signed by the secretary of defense — a one- or two-page memo, saying we will no longer build anything other than energy-efficient structures in Iraq and Afghanistan — would have a profound impact," Anderson said.

Why don't we just stop building anything in Iraq and Afghanistan and keep what's left of our nation's wealth here? Any politician who wants to build in those countries needs to be removed from office.

ratcat  posted on  2011-06-27   0:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ratcat (#3)

Any politician who wants to build in those countries needs to be removed from office.

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You're thinking we live in a Republic.

It's not, and we don't. (And we can't.)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-06-27   0:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

$20.2 Billion

No sweat for our government.

They'll just steal another $20.2 billion from it's citizens.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2011-06-27   0:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sizzlerguy (#5)

They'll just steal another $20.2 billion from it's citizens.

Or just print it. That way it's free money.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-06-27   2:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The United States spends $20.2 billion annually on air conditioning for troops stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan — more than NASA's entire budget, NPR reported.

Oh? Since when? For years, the excuse given for why our troops were sweltering in 100+ degree heat in Iraq and couldn't even be sent a small electrical fan, let alone an airconditioning unit, was because Iraq used DC current instead of AC, or some such nonsense like that. Now they can have airconditioned tents but the Greens want the tents insulated with polyurethane foam to reduce the costs of a cool breeze for them by 92%? And what's the costs of airconditioning that mega-embassy in Iraq, Mr. Anderson? *sound of crickets*

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-06-27   7:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite, 4um (#6) (Edited)

They'll just steal another $20.2 billion from it's citizens.

Or just print it. That way it's free money.

Same-same. Your way it's theft via inflation, but theft just the same. Look at this chart. Look at the 'yearly % change' column, that's the effective inflation rate for each commodity.

Edit: They're calling what we're going through biflation. The cost of things you need is going up (food, fuel, repair parts), the price of things you already own or can live without (homes, luxuries), is going down.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)

Esso  posted on  2011-06-27   7:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-27   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, All (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-27   8:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

HAPPY - '12

"Happy" days are here again.

Smiley

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

randge  posted on  2011-06-27   8:19:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

18 days to go 800 miles? geez. Less than 50 mi. per day.cant imagine how tedious of a job that would be.Even with goathurder insurgents & potholes to dodge, that is damn slow. about 2 MPH.Typical gov operation.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-27   9:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#9)

The money tree (Fed) is blossoming with its poison leaves littering the world.

Wow man that it actual poetic! or lyrical. Stage this: a chic trio from Seattle in ripped jeans. "Littering the wooorrrrrld, litterrrrimg the wooooorrrld...." (twang twang). We can shaare the royalties! ;-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-27   9:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Artisan (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-27   10:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

Ive always been impressed with people who can write a beautiful melody & lyrics. songwriting is a real talent which i admire. i dont know how they do it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-27   11:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-27   11:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

side story- did u know that styx kicked dennis de young out of styx?! Seagar, rod stewart, springsteen had the right idea. No brand name. but rather your own.Smart business.LoL.Work on "Littering the World" & get back to me in 6 mos!!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-27   12:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-27   14:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#18)

yeah, thats the exact history i read. But its absurd to kick him out because he wrote nearly all of their hit songs, & he is the voice of styx. (good thing none of this matters! lol) Oh. the lead singer of Boston killed himself!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-06-27   23:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-06-28   3:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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