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Title: Is Comet Elenin an incoming spacecraft heralding a New Age?
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics ... ge?CID=examiner_alerts_article
Published: Jul 8, 2011
Author: Michael E. Salla. Exopolitics.org
Post Date: 2011-07-08 23:47:41 by Tatarewicz
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Comet Elenin is an incoming spacecraft or intelligently controlled object according to a number of presenters at a recently completed conference hosted online by the popular whistleblower website - Project Camelot. Several presenters agreed that Elenin will approach its closest points near the Sun and Earth at a time of extraordinary planetary and societal changes coinciding with the end of the Mayan Calendar. A number of anonymous whistleblowers were cited in support of the view that Elenin was an artificially controlled object responsible for widespread planetary changes in the solar system. The conference broke important ground in uncovering some of the mystery surrounding Comet Elenin, and revealing expert opinions and whistleblower testimonies describing its artificial design and the significance of its orbit. In a surprising omission, the conference organizers did not feature ground breaking scientific literature detailing the seismic impact of Elenin on Earth. Combining insights from the overlooked scientific data and the conference proceedings points to an extraordinary conclusion - Comet Elenin is generating powerful gravity disruption technologies indicative of one or more interstellar spacecraft travelling towards Earth.

The Conference: Elenin was hosted by Kerry Cassidy and featured five presenters who discussed their research data and insights on Comet Elenin. Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. Hoagland began the conference with a succinct presentation on the significance of Elenin's orbit, and why this pointed to it being either an artificial object under intelligent control (an ancient spacecraft) or a natural body (a comet) that has been deliberately launched on an artificial orbit. He placed special emphasis on Elenin's perihelion (closest point to the sun) on September 11, 2011 as evidence that this was a result of artificial design to draw attention to the profound geopolitical events that occurred ten years earlier. Hoagland also pointed out that around the time Elenin would be passing by the Earth's orbit on its outbound leg, that another celestial object Asteroid 2005YU55 would pass only 200,000 miles from the Earth on November 9.

The next presenter was Keith Hunter who claimed that planets radiate harmonic signatures that influence orbits and seismic activity. Hunter claimed that Elenin is a small mass that could do something unusual if caught up in powerful harmonic configurations. Hunter's most important contribution was to point out the relationship between seismic activity and planetary configurations. Sadly, he was not aware of the work conducted by Dr Mensur Omerbashich who had put together an exhaustive study of Elenin's alignments with a number of planetary bodies during powerful seismic events on Earth. Dr Omerbashich claims that since 2006, comet Elenin has had a measurable impact on the Earth's seismic activity. Dr Omerbashich's paper was released on April 11, 2011 and is titled "Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6 + seismicity."His basic idea is that as planetary bodies align with the Earth, seismic activity increases. He provides historic data on large earthquakes, greater than magnitude 6, and how these have occurred during planetary alignments.

The Mayan Calendar according to the next conference presenter, Dr Carl Calleman, operates in 9 distinct levels or waves. The ninth wave, coinciding with the End of the Mayan Calendar, occurs on October 28, 2011. Calleman believes that the world will enter a New Age based on an expanding "unity consciousness." While the precise ending of the Mayan Calendar is disputed by others advocating a December 21, 2012 end date, Calleman has produced cogent arguments for the October 2011 end date. He noted that the date coincides with Elenin's crossing of Earth's orbit suggesting it may have far more significance than generally attributed to it.

The main conference organizer, Kerry Cassidy, revealed that a number of anonymous whistleblowers had revealed that Elenin is a piloted spacecraft, and in fact was being trailed by a fleet of spacecraft. Hoagland claims that he has been confidentially told similarly by other whistleblowers of the artificial nature of Elenin. Dr Joseph Farrell agreed and claimed that Elenin was either an artificial object (controlled spacecraft) or a natural object placed in an artificial orbit. In probably the most significant observation of the conference, Hoagland claimed that Elenin was likely an active torsion field generator.

A torsion field describes the influence a spinning object exerts on its environment. In the case of a slowly spinning stationary gyroscope, for example, the torsion field has been observed to be almost zero. However, for moving gyroscopes rotating at velocities above 20,000 RPM, the torsion field has been observed to have a number of interesting properties. Russian scientists have been the leaders in the study of torsion fields. The most revolutionary results so far reveal that torsion fields impact on gravity and travel faster than electromagnetic radiation or radio signals. Professor Nikolai Kozyrev, a Russian pioneer in the study of torsion fields, experimentally confirmed that torsion fields travel at least 109 times the speed of light.

Kozyrev's observations were experimentally confirmed by numerous other Russian scientists together with a few western colleagues. The work of Kozyrev and other scientists points to torsion fields as a possible means for extraterrestrial civilizations to travel large interstellar and even intergalactic distances. Significantly, the whistleblower, Bob Lazar revealed that extraterrestrial spacecraft used gravity waves for both navigation and propulsion purposes. Torsion field generators could be used to create the necessary gravity waves for spacecraft traveling long distances.

All presenters agreed that Elenin was not a super-large planetary body such as a red dwarf star mentioned by some researchers that was generating some alarm in the general public. As observed in an earlier article by this writer, Elenin's orbit indicates that it is not a red dwarf star or large planetary body. In short, Elenin has a small mass as most astronomers contend, and indeed emphasized by Andy Lloyd and others in the Elenin conference. Yet, the pronounced seismic influence when it aligned with the Earth and the sun or other planetary body, as observed by Dr Omerbashich, indicated that Elenin was somehow exerting a powerful gravitational influence. If not a large planetary body, then Elenin's seismic influence could be explained by it generating powerful gravity waves over long distances. Elenin was generating a powerful torsion field effect - something one or more spacecraft could be doing if traveling along Elenin's orbital path to the inner solar system.

In conclusion, the Project Camelot: Elenin conference provided a number of important insights into Comet Elenin - the most important being its artificiality, the torsion field effects it was exerting, and the possibility that it is some kind of spacecraft.

It's now less than four months before Elenin passes by the Earth's orbit, around October 28, 2011, and its eventual influence is unknown and arousing considerable speculation. The timing of passing by the Earth, the end of the Mayan Calendar according to Dr Calleman, does offer the tantalizing possibility of Elenin being a harbinger of a New Age. Alternatively, Elenin may be a small comet that will have little to no impact as it passes near the Earth as NASA and many astronomers contend.

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#12. To: randge. TooConservative, Ghengis Ghandi, Dakmar, wudidiz, farmfriend, irishthatcherite, all (#6) (Edited)

rocks floating in space being the salvation of earth.

Yep, our masters are beating us to a pulp these days, and there don't seem to be any kinda divine intervention in the offing, so folks are pinning their hope on the celestial sort.

Likely some PsyOps mixed in here - to keep people diverted and confused. While I definitely believe it could be a constructed object I also do NOT buy the airy fairy "New Age" coating. I think it has been obvious for some time now that we are not alone. However, both religious groups, seeing their dogma and hence money and control threatened, and government groups fearful that the public may catch on to how much they've been deceived and manipulated have motivations for confusing the issue.

I have wondered for some time now, and am undecided, as to whether Richard Hoagland is controlled opposition. His close association with Art Bell, George Noory, and Klearchannel provides grounds to question his real game. Much of what he puts out is true, but I do not always buy his spin on the social significance of the information, as well I wonder if he is in the business of telling just enough to remain credible, while including seeds of disinformation, without going over the invisible line of what is allowed to be told to the public.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-07-10   14:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#12)

We were told that there would be false prophets/preachers out there.

It's not my job to judge them: it's my job to study the Word for myself, and take from it, whatever I'm meant to have.

(I have to keep things simple.)

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Lod  posted on  2011-07-10   14:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

It is an awfully strange looking "comet"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-10   15:16:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge. TooConservative, Ghengis Ghandi, Dakmar, wudidiz, farmfriend, irishthatcherite, all (#14)

Ping to above image.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-10   15:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent, HAPPY2BME-4UM, Amandil, All (#14)

Ping to image in post 14.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-10   15:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#12)

and am undecided, as to whether Richard Hoagland is controlled opposition.

The skeptic treads a hard and rocky path, clad in a thin cloak and meager garments, but he is seldom humiliated in front of his fellows and always keeps his honor.

(And yes indeed, remember the White Rose.)

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randge  posted on  2011-07-10   15:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative, Ghengis Ghandi, Dakmar, wudidiz, farmfriend, irishthatcherite, all (#12)

bump to above

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randge  posted on  2011-07-10   15:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#15)

Ping to above image.

Damned strange, that is. I've seen this before.

This is also said to be a depiction of Elenin. As we have seen in the case of the events of 9/11, one can never be sure what a bunch of pixels on a screen represents, whether still or in motion.

Keep your powder dry.

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randge  posted on  2011-07-10   15:32:33 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#16)

If ETs are trying to find intelligent life on this planet, I wish them LOTS of LUCK!

;>)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-10   15:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#13)

We were told that there would be false prophets/preachers out there.

It's not my job to judge them: it's my job to study the Word for myself, and take from it, whatever I'm meant to have.

(I have to keep things simple.)

I think things are ultimately simple. It only becomes complex when someone, either intentionally or unintentionally, deviates from the truth and enters needless complexities which in turn require explanation (thus making things appear more complex), and in turn the explanations require explanation. Thus we wind up with snarls of complexity manufactured from simple truths.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-07-10   15:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, FormerLurker, all (#20)

If ETs are trying to find intelligent life on this planet, I wish them LOTS of LUCK!

Amen. Sing it brutha!

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-07-10   15:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine, Lod, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, Tatarewicz, 4um (#0)

Is Comet Elenin an incoming spacecraft heralding a New Age?

Why, yes, yes it is.

And it's piloted by Palo Verde, with Santa Claus as her co-pilot, and the rest of the crew is unicorns, teddy bears, and a few fluffy, fluffy bunnies.

The whole deal is really, really dreamy! I can't wait!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2011-07-10   15:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso, 4 (#23)

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments

Lod  posted on  2011-07-10   15:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Esso (#23)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-07-10   16:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Esso (#23)

And it's piloted by Palo Verde, with Santa Claus as her co-pilot, and the rest of the crew is unicorns, teddy bears, and a few fluffy, fluffy bunnies.

The whole deal is really, really dreamy! I can't wait!

LOL


"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause." -Padme, Star Wars III, Sith

farmfriend  posted on  2011-07-10   16:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Esso (#23) (Edited)

The whole deal is really, really dreamy! I can't wait!

You forgot to sign it:

Love Esso

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Flintlock  posted on  2011-07-10   16:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20)

If ETs are trying to find intelligent life on this planet, I wish them LOTS of LUCK!

LOL


"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause." -Padme, Star Wars III, Sith

farmfriend  posted on  2011-07-10   17:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20)

If ETs are trying to find intelligent life on this planet, I wish them LOTS of LUCK!

;>)

I am trying to think of a term.. which is bascially the exact opposite of meritocracy, where the hierarchial structure is based on the more inept and incomptent one is, the higher up in the social strata he is. Demeritocracy? lol

So the blackman orders a pint of of the Black Stuff in Hayes' pub in Moneygall, he hands the barman a Fiver and says; "I HOPE there is some CHANGE with that!" :-P

irishthatcherite  posted on  2011-07-10   17:28:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: irishthatcherite (#29)

In a very facile sense, the opposite of meritocracy is kakistocracy, or the rule of the worst.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-10   17:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: randge (#19)

This is also said to be a depiction of Elenin. As we have seen in the case of the events of 9/11, one can never be sure what a bunch of pixels on a screen represents, whether still or in motion.

That looks more like a computer generated sky image, with a comet superimposed on it.

Funny how there aren't a WHOLE BUNCH of images of this thing.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-10   17:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20)

If ETs are trying to find intelligent life on this planet, I wish them LOTS of LUCK!

I heard a rumor that they're coming here for the purpose of "serving man"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-10   17:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Flintlock (#27)

You forgot to sign it;

Love Esso

GODDAMMIT!

Love Esso

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2011-07-10   18:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker, All (#31)

That looks more like a computer generated sky image, with a comet superimposed on it.

I dunno. Looks fairly natural to me, but you can do a great cut and paste with Photoshop if you know what you're doing.

You can allege that this photo is a phony, but you should bring some evidence to the table when you do that. If anyone here has Photoshop (I don't) maybe you could subject these images to the kind of analysis that was brought to bear on 'Bama's BC.

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randge  posted on  2011-07-10   19:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker (#14)

SpeedN-NM Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1) appears as a tiny, faint smudge in this stack of four 240-second exposures taken on the morning of December 10, 2010, with a remote-controlled telescope in New Mexico. (The quadrupled stars are due to the comet's motion between exposures.)

From: www.sott.net/articles/sho...2-Comet-Elenin-is-Coming-


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Critter  posted on  2011-07-10   20:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#3)

Come for the free castration, stay for the cyanide.

And dinner, only we're it.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-07-10   21:30:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Esso, 4 (#33)

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments

Lod  posted on  2011-07-10   22:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FormerLurker (#32)

What a twist!


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IRTorqued  posted on  2011-07-10   23:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Critter (#35) (Edited)

SpeedN-NM Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1) appears as a tiny, faint smudge in this stack of four 240-second exposures taken on the morning of December 10, 2010, with a remote-controlled telescope in New Mexico. (The quadrupled stars are due to the comet's motion between exposures.)

From: www.sott.net/articles/sho...2-Comet-Elenin-is-Coming-

Thanks.

I simply did a Google image search for Comet Elenin and saw several instances of that image. After I posted it I sought of figured that might be the case, but even then, most time exposures of comets show stars as streaks not separate dots, as the shutter is kept open for a period of time sufficient to capture the image of the target, while the stars in the heavens move at a different rate than the comet itself, causing the streaking effect.

I might try to dig up some info on time exposures to see if telescope mounted cameras take several images in succession (as would have to be the case here), or a continuous exposure for a finite period of time. I tend to think it'd be the latter, but I'm no expert on this so who knows.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   1:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#39)

People are saying elenin might stand for extinction leveling event nibiru is near. Wondering what it means etc...

I think it's far-fetched.

I looked up the hebrew meanings of el and nin.

God and grace.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-11   1:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: wudidiz (#40)

My take on it is, anything, and everything, is possible.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   1:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: FormerLurker (#41)

That's certainly a wise point of reference, but still.... someone named the thing.

Why "Elenin"?


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-11   1:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: randge (#34)

I dunno. Looks fairly natural to me, but you can do a great cut and paste with Photoshop if you know what you're doing.

I'm not saying it was photoshopped. I was thinking it was a star chart generated by some astronomical software, and the comet was just a generic (or custom) bitmap added to the chart by the software itself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   1:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#42)

That's certainly a wise point of reference, but still.... someone named the thing.

Why "Elenin"?

It was the Russian's name who found it in the sky, or so the story goes...

Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a long-period comet discovered by amateur Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010, remotely, using the International Scientific Optical Network's robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico, U.S.A.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   1:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FormerLurker (#44)

Oh. lol

Thank you.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-11   1:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: randge (#34)

And actually, for the reasons I mentioned to Critter, an image of the comet would show the stars as streaks, not points of light.

The comet is too far away to be viewable without a photographic time exposure through the telescope lens, and as the comet is moving at a different speed and direction than the stars in the sky relative to a point on earth, if the telescope is locked on the comet's trajectory, the stars will appear as streaks.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   1:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Critter (#35)

SpeedN-NM Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1) appears as a tiny, faint smudge in this stack of four 240-second exposures taken on the morning of December 10, 2010

The more I think of it, the above statement is implausible. If the shutter was open for 240 seconds (with no indication from the statement how much time lapsed between exposures), you would think there would be at least SOME streaking of the stars. And I doubt they waited a bunch of time between exposures, which would have to be considerable if there was no streaking in 240 seconds (4 minutes). Why would they have to wait magnitudes of time longer than 4 minutes to take another shot? Why not just leave the lens open for the required time (240*4) seconds, or 16 minutes?


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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   2:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Critter (#35)

From looking over what they have in terms of equipment over at the observatory Mr. Elenin photographed the image, and looking at the specs of the CCD cameras available there, they all have 3600 second exposure time capability. So I can't see why he used four 240 seconds exposures when all he had to do is set the exposure to 960 seconds.

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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   2:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Critter (#35)

One final thought. I considered the possibility that the camera was used on successive days. That might be the way to do it in order to find a comet. HOWEVER, the telescope would be set to track the stars, and any streaks (or multiple dots) would indicate the presence of an asteroid or comet. THEN once a trajectory is determined, the telescope can be programmed to track the object.

Thing is, the date of the image is the same day Elenin was discovered, so there would be no way to program the telescope to track the comet if it wasn't yet discovered. And it wasn't the comet that streaked or appeared as multiple dots, it was supposedly the "stars".

SO, the story is still fishy at best.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-11   2:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker (#49)

Been searching for and looking at images of current comets.

Just wanted to chime in and say that you've made some interesting observations about the Elenin pic's here.

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randge  posted on  2011-07-11   15:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Is Comet Elenin an incoming spacecraft heralding a New Age?

i vote for just another psyop

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AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-07-11   16:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: randge, All (#50)

Thanks.

An example of the streaking I'm talking about can be seen in the image below. Keep in mind though that this is only true for far away comets that give off very little light. As comets approach the sun, they become brighter and can be captured on a camera without the surrounding stars streaking.


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