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Title: The "Jumpers" of 9/11 are all FAKES?
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Published: Jul 10, 2011
Author: albatross234
Post Date: 2011-07-10 01:59:37 by wudidiz
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youtu.be/CkvIV5CeLJ0 "These jumper photos all appear to be fakes to me--all cut & pastes. ALL THAT IS NEEDED IS A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF FRAUD--YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE EVERY SHOT. They were obviously pre-made, and were included into to the storyline of the 9/11 to increase the "shock and awe" effect to steer us to giving up our rights to the real terrorists of 9/11, not some visa photos of Saudi citizens that we were conveniently provided to blame less than 24-hours later. Osama Bin Ladin's name was provided to us only 45-minutes after the first tower exploaded. "
Poster Comment: "9/11 was a psy-op."
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#1. To: All, *9-11*, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *Out There*, *No Planers* (#0)
Judge for yourself...
There were eyewitnesses to more than a hundred "jumpers" from the upper floors of the WTC. However, since the towers fell a few hours later most of the bodies were lost in the rubble and could not be identified. For example, see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fa lling_Man If someone faked a jumper photo that would not disprove the many jumpers that were actually witnessed (and sometimes photographed) on that day. By the way, the fall from the top floor of the WTC to the street would have taken about eleven seconds. The jumpers were apparently all from the floors at or above the airplane penetration; those floors were completely cut from escape and the fires were raging there - and the plane's impact had broken many of the windows. The victims had a choice of burning slowly or jumping; firemen will tell you that people in that dilemma jump every time. Additionally, it appears that some jumpers were Orthodox Jews - they knew that their widows would not be allowed (under Orthodox rules) to remarry without positive proof that they were dead so they intended, by jumping, to provide an identifiable corpse so their deaths would be proven and their wives would be able to remarry.
Who? Can you provide the names of the eyewitnesses? How do you know this? Hahahaha ....thanks for that
I think most of the pics of the "jumpers" were from movie clips, not stills, ad cut n paste only works with stills. I think the pixelation might be what happens where color edges exist -- two or more colors are very close together. Digital cameras can only show a single color on each pixel and where 2 colors run through a single pixels, the camera assigns a mix of the two colors, hense the pixelating effect. The towers did come down, and people did die, inside job or not. I don't find it unreasonable to think that real people did fall to their deaths, but have wondered if, because the one guy didn't seem to be animated, they may have been mercifully knocked unconscience and thrown out. Speculation, but... In any event, I'd say the cut n paste idea is not supported by the photo evidence and is more speculation than not.
Thank you : )
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
I've always wondered about that. Experienced people who skydive off buildings intentionally, and use the right body position are fearful they won't be far enough from a building to cleanly deploy their parachute. I've yet to see a single pic that showed a jumper with a body position that would move him away from the building. I figured the pics were taken close to the ground or an explosion blew the poor sobs out but they never looked right to me. 9/11 was an inside job and this is just another piece of the puzzle that proves it.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
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"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
wow. it appears? i'd say that is highly speculative. how could you know what was in the mind of these people other than in desperation trying to escape a fire?
What crap. Just come out and declare your end-game insanity: the World Trade Centers never existed, they've been holograms since 1974 and the jews cut off the money to keep the program running so there was a massive shut-down in the form of airliners hitting them. Nobody died on 9/11, it was all a mirage.
I never thought about the jumpers being fakes, but I imagine some of them could have been faked, possibly all for effect. What wasn't faked however were the buildings being destroyed and the people in them being killed. That happened without a doubt. It does make some sense that since the fires were not as hot as we were led to believe they were, that few if any jumped. It is possible that those seeking fresh air from the windows might have accidentally pushed others out. We know that the fires were not that hot due to a woman in the North Tower waving while leaning on a steel beam looking out the hole created by the plane's impact with the building. If the fires were so hot she would not have even been there, much less touching supposedly red hot steal that was about to melt. That woman alone tells everyone with a functioning brain that the towers were demolished on purpose and the fires were not hot enough to even weaken the steel, much less cause it to collapse.
God is always good!
It appears that you are full of shit. All you Jews seem to be full of shit. Go study your Talmud, maybe you will find a way to kill us all yet.
God is always good!
God is always good!
No need to thank me. Just my honest take. I would add one thing. To me, the major questions & problems with 9-11 are: As I sit here, those are my questions on the top of my list. There may be more I'm not thinking of right now. But much of the other stuff that has come up over the years along the same lines as this idea the jumpers were faked is at best a distraction from the obvious questions of 9-11 and at worst intentionally circulated to try to discredit and distract from the obvious questions that hit on the real discrepancies. On top of that, it's always been a true element of human psychology that people will see whatever they want to see. So someone who's convinced 9-11 was an inside job etc, even if correct about that, will look at the mountains of photos and records and see inconsistancies where none, in fact, exist. This is true for all of us, me included, and I think it's something we should wisely be aware of and, IMO, allow for as we question things like 9-11. For that reason, I prefer to stick to issues that are as objective as possible, such as my list above.
There was at least one report of an Orthodox Jewish victim phoning his wife before he jumped, to say farewell and to tell her that he was deliberately jumping so that his body could be identified to enable her to get on with her life.
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"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
He is, along with AKA Mallethead, 4um's resident jew-fellator. They are. Other than "kill, kill, kill the goyim!", the only other thing they know is their constant, 24/7/365 obsession with stealing the goyim's money.
Idiotic. This is from a New York Times article (Page 4 of 4) about the Austrian art group, Gelatin, and their July 2001 book on an illegal balcony stunt that they had staged in March 2000 from the 91st floor of the WTC North Tower, where they were residents and which became the WTC1 strikezone on 9/11. The article was printed about 3 weeks before 9/11 (August 18, 2001) and coincidently makes a comparison of their "prank" to the 1960 film-trickery by Yves Klein as if he'd jumped from a window: Balcony Scene (Or Unseen) Atop the World; Episode at Trade Center Assumes Mythic Qualities ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Right on, thank you.
Like what?
Like "how Mossad was involved up to their yarmulke". Not trying to be smart-ass here.
Judaophobic anti-semite ;)
Yep, that's about right. I'm totally fed up with the tribe creating hell-on-earth 24-7/365.
While I have your attention, how do you think that guy got 50 ft away from the wall?
Not being a rappeller or sky-diver myself, can't make an educated opinion on that question. What Ricky J says "We know that the fires were not that hot due to a woman in the North Tower waving while leaning on a steel beam looking out the hole created by the plane's impact with the building. If the fires were so hot she would not have even been there, much less touching supposedly red hot steal that was about to melt. That woman alone tells everyone with a functioning brain that the towers were demolished on purpose and the fires were not hot enough to even weaken the steel, much less cause it to collapse." has convinced me that the fires weren't that hot, though if people think they'll burn to death, might opt for jumping.
My guess is it's unlikely he could have gained that horizontal distance without being shot from a giant slingshot, but anyway it appears as though at least some of the pictures of falling people may have been faked. 9/11 was absolutely a massive theatrical cinematic psy-op. I agree with your reasoning of controlled demolition. Personally, all I need is to watch any of the "collapse"/disintegration videos to be convinced of what obviously happened. Yes, all the players (in the truther community, too) have their duty. If anyone with a little inclination to uncover this massive psy-op, they'd meet an untimely death.
Am posting that video because I have questions about the beams and debris ejected from the collapsing South Tower -- supposedly collapsing because the steel was softened by the heat of the fire but was still reportedly solid enough to have damaged a number of buildings in the vicinity quite severely. Yet, the North Tower directly next to it appears practically unscathed by the explosive force-field of heavy-metal beams, etc., as projectiles. Are we to think: 1. The steel beams and debris flying towards the North Tower were all too softened and gooey from the heat of the fire to impact it very much -- not so soft re: the other buildings in the area allegedly hit by ejected materials? 2. All or most of the heavy projectiles flying from the South Tower went in directions around or away from the North Tower? 3. The North Tower's aluminum cladding was super-strong enough to withstand the projectile impacts without much visible damage but still soon collapsed anyway because, like the South Tower, its steel and concrete structure was likewise not strong enough to withstand the heat? 4. The North Tower was softened so much from the heat that by the time the South Tower collapsed, everything that rammed into it bounced off of it like it was made of rubber? 5. The videos and pics which show little to no damage to the North Tower from the collapsing South Tower's flying materials are faked -- even the news footage? 6. None of the above. There must be some other explanation for the North Tower not being smashed to bits by the projectiles and air pressures impacting it from the South Tower's downfall? I realize questions like that are about as welcome as a swarm of pests, even among the Truth Movement. I'm sorry about that but there they are and I can't just dismiss them. So, I'd like to hear from anyone who can explain why the North Tower appears to be so unmarred by the South Tower's projectiles. If I'm not the only one who has such questions and there are those who don't mind saying that they do too, I'd be glad to know that. For now, I'm going to suppose that James Deffenbach's Majick Jet Fuel theory might be a factor. Edited for grammar, last paragraph, sentence 3.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Seems to me that all of that junk hitting the ground and wherever would make lots of loud, banging noises -- but it mostly doesn't.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
That's true. I once witnessed an armed robbery & the masked perp, i saw was black. An asian woman next to me affirmed the same. But, 2 black witnesses insisted he was white! BS. i said. I wouldve sworn he was black.However, me & the asian were wrong.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
That b.s. about 'pancaking' has tainted the good reputation of pancakes & hotcakes forever. I'm surprised that ihop & dennys havent gone out of business from the sheer PTSD 911 factor of associating hotcakes with 9/11/01. Oh the agony.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Never underestimate the power of Majick Jet Fuel™. It Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
When my children use the phrase "All" or "Always", I tell them they are almost "All" or "Always" wrong. With that said, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Obama Juntas and co-conspirators should probably be hung for treason and war crimes, after a fair trial, of course.
Thanks for your input, James. Would be a good thing if that recipe also got disintegrated back then.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're welcome. I hope that whoever was responsible for making that batch has gone on to his reward since then. I doubt there would be a building left anywhere if they made another 1,000 gallons of it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#2. To: wudidiz (#0)
#3. To: Shoonra (#2)
(Edited)
There were eyewitnesses to more than a hundred "jumpers" from the upper floors of the WTC.
....it appears that some jumpers were Orthodox Jews - they knew that their widows would not be allowed (under Orthodox rules) to remarry without positive proof that they were dead so they intended, by jumping, to provide an identifiable corpse so their deaths would be proven and their wives would be able to remarry.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#4. To: wudidiz (#1)
#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#6. To: wudidiz (#0)
#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6)
How did that guy get 50 to 60' away from the building?
#8. To: Stick To Disinformation (#7)
#9. To: Shoonra (#2)
Additionally, it appears that some jumpers were Orthodox Jews - they knew that their widows would not be allowed (under Orthodox rules) to remarry without positive proof that they were dead so they intended, by jumping, to provide an identifiable corpse so their deaths would be proven and their wives would be able to remarry.
#10. To: wudidiz (#0)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#11. To: wudidiz (#0)
(Edited)
#12. To: Shoonra (#2)
it appears that some jumpers were Orthodox Jews
#13. To: wudidiz, *9-11* (#1)
#14. To: wudidiz (#5)
Thank you : )
#15. To: christine (#9)
wow. it appears? i'd say that is highly speculative. how could you know what was in the mind of these people other than in desperation trying to escape a fire?
#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)
Airline stock shorts in the days prior to the event;
#17. To: RickyJ (#12)
It appears that you are full of shit.
All you Jews seem to be full of shit.
Go study your Talmud, maybe you will find a way to kill us all yet.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#18. To: wudidiz (#0)
These jumper photos all appear to be fakes to me--all cut & pastes.
It's crap like this that turns people off from real valid questions about 9-11.
Maybe that's it's purpose...
Once you go armadillo, you never go back.
#19. To: wudidiz, All, *9-11* (#0)
The balcony may be an art prank in the lineage of Yves Klein, who in 1960 disseminated a picture of himself leaping blithely out a window, an image revealed years later to be the product of deftly spliced negatives.
#20. To: RickyJ (#13)
Edna vid
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#21. To: Armadillo (#18)
real valid questions about 9-11
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#22. To: wudidiz (#21)
real valid questions about 9-11
#23. To: CadetD (#22)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#24. To: wudidiz (#23)
Judaophobic anti-semite ;)
#25. To: CadetD (#24)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#26. To: wudidiz (#25)
how do you think that guy got 50 ft away from the wall?
#27. To: CadetD (#26)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#28. To: wudidiz (#27)
anyway it appears as though at least some of the pictures of falling people may have been faked. 9/11 was absolutely a massive theatrical cinematic psy-op.
#29. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, All, *9-11* (#27)
(Edited)
PANCAKING?
#30. To: All (#29)
#31. To: Pinguinite (#14)
people will see whatever they want to see
#32. To: wudidiz (#27)
PANCAKING?
#33. To: GreyLmist (#29)
For now, I'm going to suppose that James Deffenbach's Majick Jet Fuel theory might be a factor.
is was some bad stuff and I am glad they only made one batch of it.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#34. To: wudidiz (#0)
#35. To: James Deffenbach (#33)
#36. To: GreyLmist (#35)
OsamaBinGoldstein
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