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Title: Three Cheers for the Casey Anthony Jurors
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URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer240.html
Published: Jul 11, 2011
Author: Butler Shaffer
Post Date: 2011-07-11 01:00:49 by christine
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Comments: 37
Every once-in-awhile events occur that provide some optimism that real people – rather than the sock-puppets who speak on behalf of institutional interests – have a firm grip on reality. The jury in the Casey Anthony trial did precisely what they were directed to do by the court: deliberated on the evidence presented to them, and concluded that there was not the requisite degree of certitude to allow them to find this woman guilty of the murder charges brought against her. This was more than the percaled agents of "justice" could take. They know a "guilty" person when they see one: it’s whoever is charged with a crime by the state! The cable-TV bobbleheads – let’s call them Dennis Dullard and Amelia Airhead – began screaming for vengeance, . . . not so much against Ms. Anthony, but against the jurors! Their screeches of rage were echoed by other lobotomized voices, one of whom urged doing away with the jury system altogether. Charles Dickens’ Madame Defarge was resurrected! Another shrieked at the "idiots on the jury," while another asked the most irrelevant question as it pertained to this defendant: "who killed Caylee then?" It was not the role of the jurors to find Caylee’s killer (if, indeed she was killed rather than dying accidentally). It is the function of the police to search for causal evidence and present it to prosecuting attorneys. If the prosecution concludes that there is "probable cause" to charge a defendant with a crime, it will do so, leaving to the jury the task of deciding whether, "beyond a reasonable doubt," there was sufficient evidence to convict the defendant. The jurors did what they were supposed to do, what the judge ordered them to do. If their critics want to blame someone for Casey’s being found not guilty, they should focus on those who failed at their assigned task: the functionaries of the state! If blame is to be found, it can more readily be said that police investigators and prosecuting attorneys were unable to fulfill their roles. To blame the jurors who, by their verdict, said "you have not convinced us," is as irrational as a murderer blaming his victim for spilling his blood on his carpeting! Those who talk of abolishing the jury system would be better advised to urge abolishing the prosecution of criminals! Perhaps Dennis spent too many of his high school years in "drivers ed" classes, while Amelia was at cheerleader’s practice on the day the legal system was discussed in civics class. Whatever the explanation, they knew what is foremost in the minds of all men and women of statist persuasion: the proof of a defendant’s guilt is found in the fact that he or she is charged with a crime! What more needs to be asked? How can "enquiring minds" be expected to give up such more pressing inquiries as the identity of the next "American Idol"? I have no defense to make of Casey Anthony as a person or a mother. I don’t know that much about her to make any such judgment. Her alleged failure to notify anyone of Caylee’s being missing until thirty-one days later does not impress me as the epitome of responsible motherhood. But the jury was not assigned the task of judging this woman’s character. They understood what Dennis and Amelia did not: individuals are responsible for the consequences of their actions. In a world in which we have become accustomed to dealing with one another in highly abstract ways, it is easy for any of us to express opinions – or courses of action – without feeling any sense of responsibility for what we have put in motion. Don Boudreaux offered a powerful example of the adverse consequences of living in a world of abstractions. He spoke of the differences between the wartime experiences of soldiers on the ground – who have to shoot, bayonet, or throw hand grenades at their victims – and bomber pilots who may kill more than the foot-soldier, but whose acts appear to them only as distant "puffs of smoke." While Dennis and Amelia saw the implications of their commentaries as little more than "puffs of smoke," the jurors were required to daily confront Casey Anthony, face-to-face, and determine her life-or-death fate. In another case in which they had not been picked to sit in judgment of a defendant, some of these jurors might have been as impressed by Dennis and Amelia’s post-trial babblings as was your cousin Louise in Schenectady. But on this day, they made the choice to live responsibly. The words of one of the jurors, Jennifer Ford, should give encouragement that many of our neighbors can rise above the Madame Defarge lynch-mob mindset. As Ms. Ford so well expressed it: "If they want to charge and they want me to take someone’s life, they have to prove it. They have to prove it, or else I’m a murderer too." Neither Dennis nor Amelia will have the slightest appreciation for Ms. Ford’s remarks. They will likely accuse her of being "soft on crime," or a "terrorist sympathizer," as they head for the hardware store for more rope!
Poster Comment: I saw Jennifer Ford interviewed on NightLine. She said that the state gave them nothing to convict. They had to go by the law and not speculation. She also said that a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent. It simply means that the prosecution did not prove its case.
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#1. To: christine (#0)
People watch too much CSI and think you need hard evidence to convict someone of anything, you don't. When the circumstantial evidence is as overwhelming as it is in this case, and she even admitted she lied to the police, then it is not hard to see who killed the little girl.
God is always good!
Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with the jury findings, at the end of the day, the decision of the jurists need to be respected. That means leaving them alone. Otherwise we can just forget about having any trials and and just go back to street justice and lynchings being the "law" of the land. If you think having juries is a good idea, then let this go. It's fine if you disagree, but disagree and let it go.
A innocent little girl's life was snuffed out here. How does anyone that calls themselves good let something like that go? I highly doubt that Casey Anthony is going to smiling much longer. She has no idea how hated she is.
God is always good!
You don't have to look far to find injustice in the world. But if the jury system is inadequate, what would you suggest replacing it with? It seems lynchings is your answer. Yes? No? Oh, I suspect by now she does.
This is a retarded jury. Face it, for that reason alone a mistrial should be called. How can retards be a jury of her peers? They can't. Casey Anthony is an evil SOB but she is not a retard.
God is always good!
the fact that americans are all caught up in this case just proves that they dont know 1/100th of the really important evil sinister things that are going on & being done to them in this country on a daily basis. Their energy could be much better spent.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Has Butler Shafer lost his effin' mind!?!? I know a "guilty" person when I see an alleged "mother" who doesn't report her toddler missing for a month and during that month parties like there's no tomorrow and gets a tattoo that reads A Beautiful Life. One who does google searches on chloroform and how to break necks and things like that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
A good reminder, to use startpage.com ! ;-) Anonymousz. track-free internet searches.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
I guess she watched a different trial than I did. There was more than enough evidence to sustain a verdict of manslaughter if they couldn't find it in their tiny brain cell to convict her of first degree murder. Scott Peterson was convicted solely on circumstantial evidence and there was more than enough in this case to convict Casey Anthony. edit: I read it again and now I understand that she was one of the retarded jurors (one of whom made the dumbass comment that the prosecution hadn't proved motive--I guess it would be a news flash to them to find out that it is not necessary to prove motive).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
I'd say you got that half right. I don't respect what is obviously a stupid decision. But I have no plans to bother any of them--oh, I might ask them, since they did find her guilty of lying to the cops, why they think she did that. It was obviously in furtherance of her real crime, that of killing her little daughter. Too bad they couldn't think that through.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Well, unlike Casey Anthony I don't have any plans to kill a toddler (or anyone else). But it's always good to know about alternative search engines.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Could the media be using the trial as a distraction? Yes, but nevertheless it shows how dumbed down the American public has become when even a case with this much evidence can't get a guilty verdict. This is exactly why it is so hard to tell people the truth about 9/11, many have lost the ability to think for themselves if they ever had it to begin with. They want videos of confessions, or videos of people actually committing crimes before they believe it when it comes from an unofficial source. But when it comes from the government, well then they don't need any evidence, they believe it without question!
God is always good!
I wonder if this same jury would give a guilty verdict against someone accused of killing Casey Anthony without any DNA evidence? Honestly there would have been some DNA evidence if the police would have responded when the first report was called into them. I have to think that Casey's boyfriend in the police department had something to do with it not being looked into properly.
God is always good!
The jurors who sat on this case apparently believed that the prosecution had to have a confession and a video before they could convict. They even thought, at least one of them did, that they had to prove motive and that is not so.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Not this American. Lost the TV in 1999 (Clinton's war put me over the top). Never seen the perp and know zip about the case, I remember the Simpson's episode where Homer is featured on "Rock Bottom": Crowd: Two! Four! Six! Eight! Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle
No TV required to know about this case.
God is always good!
Bullshit. The jurors are morons and I hope they all have miserable lives. I hope people get in their face and scream at them every day. Jennifer Ford is a cunt that hates 2 year olds.
No it doesn't.
The first I heard of it was the verdict on the radio (they broke into the regular "news").
Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle
in the interview, she said nothing about motive. she did say that they couldn't give a cause of death. well, that's because her body was too decomposed to establish it, but without at least that, they didn't feel they could, in good conscience, convict.
as usual, you have made a rabid judgment.
Good call! That's just what Jesus would do!!!
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Sure they can. We're a country of functional retards now. I kind of like the irony. Yes she is. She's a typical Uhhmerikkan. "It's all about ME! I want! I want! I want!"
What a weak minded twit this woman is. Does she think the child is still alive wandering around somewhere. Maybe she should be in a mental hospital. For the good of society.
Yes.
that cunt isn't worth the trouble of killing. sterilize the 'lying, no good-slut', though.
as usual, you have made a rabid judgment. I find the contardictions interesting. On multiple threads he has defended mass murder, the use of White Phosphorous on children and other noncombatants, attempted to diminish the attack upon the Liberty, and then rabidly attempts to justify genocide against a population because it is being committed by "Der Chozun". Then he becomes outraged over the murder of an innocent two year old. Not that I do not find it repellant, but how does one first condone wholesale murder and then condemn retail and somehow reconcile the two? Truly a warped whirledview.
I must be a threat to you government types to have to make up stuff about me. How much do they pay you to post here?
you're a neocon asshole
I could go back through the stacks and prove every point with your own words, but why bother? Anyone who has posted here for any length of time has read your contortions as you attempt to justify Israeli War Crimes as somehow being the will of a loving God or that there is some need in killing enough people and creating enough havoc and misery to precipitate the second coming where the righteous bloodletters and justifiers of evil will somehow get a "get out of hell free" card for mouthing the right incantations. You have destroyed your own credibility not I.
True, but in some ways I feel sorry for him. It has to be a tortured existence to on one level reject evil and then on another turn somersaults to attempt to defend foul criminality as somehow being "righteous". By now he knows, and likely has all along, that all he is attempting to do is justify evil by calling it something else. That poor pig must look like a Revlon Advertisement by now.
You have destroyed your own credibility not I. Israel has a right to defend itself. They don't target civilians like muslim scumbags do. No go back to reading your piece of shit book the Koran.
You're a nazi wannabe prick.
You aren't posting on your forum except to say give a very feminine chiding or two to Gnu about his choice of material to post. Giving up on the Flamer thing are you? Why else would you be here, and not there? And how is that trying to pretend Mad Dog is a sane and coherent poster coming along?
and you are stupid.
No, she wasn't the one I heard saying they hadn't proven motive. And no, the body was too decomposed to establish the cause of death to a medical certainty but duct tape in and around the area of the mouth could have given them a clue if they had been sentient.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
sterilize the 'lying, no good-slut', though. When she kills again you might think differently. People like her can be mass murderers easily, they care nothing about anybody but themselves.
God is always good!
She said that the state gave them nothing to convict.
#2. To: RickyJ (#1)
#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)
#4. To: RickyJ (#3)
A innocent little girl's life was snuffed out here. How does anyone that calls themselves good let something like that go?
I highly doubt that Casey Anthony is going to smiling much longer. She has no idea how hated she is.
#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)
#6. To: Pinguinite, ricky', christine (#4)
#7. To: christine (#0)
This was more than the percaled agents of "justice" could take. They know a "guilty" person when they see one: it’s whoever is charged with a crime by the state!
OsamaBinGoldstein
#8. To: James Deffenbach, freepatriot32 (#7)
One who does google searches on...
#9. To: christine (#0)
(Edited)
I saw Jennifer Ford interviewed on NightLine. She said that the state gave them nothing to convict. They had to go by the law and not speculation. She also said that a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent. It simply means that the prosecution did not prove its case.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#10. To: Pinguinite (#2)
Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with the jury findings, at the end of the day, the decision of the jurists need to be respected. That means leaving them alone.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#11. To: Artisan (#8)
A good reminder, to use startpage.com ! ;-) Anonymousz. track-free internet searches.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#12. To: Artisan (#6)
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#14. To: RickyJ (#13)
I wonder if this same jury would give a guilty verdict against someone accused of killing Casey Anthony without any DNA evidence? Honestly there would have been some DNA evidence if the police would have responded when the first report was called into them. I have to think that Casey's boyfriend in the police department had something to do with it not being looked into properly.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#15. To: Artisan (#6)
Homer's crime was very great!
[pause]
"Great" meaning "large" or "immense",
We use it in the pejorative sense!
#16. To: purpleman (#15)
#17. To: christine (#0)
The jury in the Casey Anthony trial did precisely what they were directed to do by the court: deliberated on the evidence presented to them, and concluded that there was not the requisite degree of certitude to allow them to find this woman guilty of the murder charges brought against her.
#18. To: Pinguinite (#2)
Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with the jury findings, at the end of the day, the decision of the jurists need to be respected.
#19. To: RickyJ (#16)
#20. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Jennifer Ford is a cunt that hates 2 year olds.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#17)
Bullshit. The jurors are morons and I hope they all have miserable lives. I hope people get in their face and scream at them every day.
#23. To: RickyJ (#5)
This is a retarded jury. Face it, for that reason alone a mistrial should be called. How can retards be a jury of her peers? They can't.
Casey Anthony is an evil SOB but she is not a retard.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#24. To: christine (#20)
she did say that they couldn't give a cause of death. well, that's because her body was too decomposed to establish it, but without at least that, they didn't feel they could, in good conscience, convict.
#25. To: Artisan (#6)
the fact that americans are all caught up in this case just proves that they dont know 1/100th of the really important evil sinister things that are going on & being done to them in this country on a daily basis. Their energy could be much better spent.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#26. To: RickyJ (#3)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#27. To: christine, A K A Stone (#21)
Jennifer Ford is a cunt that hates 2 year olds.
#28. To: Original_Intent (#27)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#30. To: A K A Stone, christine (#28)
#31. To: Rotara, A K A Stone (#29)
you're a neocon asshole
#32. To: Original_Intent (#30)
Anyone who has posted here for any length of time has read your contortions as you attempt to justify Israeli War Crimes as somehow being the will of a loving God or that there is some need in killing enough people and creating enough havoc and misery to precipitate the second coming where the righteous bloodletters and justifiers of evil will somehow get a "get out of hell free" card for mouthing the right incantations.
#33. To: Rotara (#29)
you're a neocon asshole
#34. To: A K A Stone (#28)
#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#36. To: christine (#20)
in the interview, she said nothing about motive.
OsamaBinGoldstein
#37. To: Rotara (#26)
that cunt isn't worth the trouble of killing.
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