Title: 4um Poll. Would the world be better off... Source:
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Would the world be better off if every Jew everywhere was killed?
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Even Adolf Hitler did not want that, he just wanted them out of Europe.
Game, set, match.
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
6In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
7The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. 9And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. ......
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Would the world be better off if every Jew everywhere was killed?
No, but the world would be better off if Israel as a Jewish state ceased to exist. I have no use for filthy middle eastern sand niggers, be they Jewish, Muslim, or Christian. Their tribal cultures are dysfunctional and incompatible with modern society.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Speaking objectively, if by "better off" we mean more peaceful and prosperous for the rest of the world (all non-jews) it's hard for me to say no. If Israel didn't exist, I'd expect that the mid-east would still be filled with violence as muslims fought among themselves, but at least they would likely not be viewing the rest of the world as evil entities.
But I'm not sure I'm of the "ends justifies the means" crowd. To a certain extent I'm pragmatic but I'm also not like many and very likely most Israeli/Jews that would seek to have a class of people (or in their case, all other classes of people) be cattle for their personal interests or well-being.
"There are right now Jewish people on this earth who have a powerful and special relationship with God," declares Hagee in one of his books. "They have been chosen by the 'election of grace' in which God does what he does without asking man to approve or understand it. Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that "all the Jews are lost" and can't be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity! . . . there are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election." --John Hagee
Stone's self rightousness regarding the Jewish people is based on self serving theology that seeks parnership with Jewish people by eliminating the intolerence against them that compels people like him to seek to convert everyone to their faith.
He posted this to infer people who are anti-Semitic here at 4UM are wrong because they don't share his beliefs and faith.
This is how Stone has always been and he won't ever change.
Stone is for the genocide of forced conversion of over a billion Muslums mainly because that faith and his are equally as intolerent about refusal to convert to their faiths. And historically Christianity is every bit as violent and intolerent as the younger faith called Islam in dealing with non-believers.
So, I can't take seriously Stone's whine that he is superior to an anti-Semitic person as he still targets people for death and destruction based on their faith.
His claim to a higher moral ground is all in his mind as he stands on the quicksand of hypocracy.
He is actually claiming to have a better idea who should be exterminated in a genocidically way. He does not hate the evil and injustice of genocide, he just thinks the genocide he wants is vastly superior.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Would the world be better off if every Jew everywhere was killed?
No.
Where ignorance is bliss, t'is folly to be wise.
If you are too clever, you could miss the point entirely.
When has killing and war ever made the world or mankind better off?
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is faith but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
No, but the world would be better off if Israel as a Jewish state ceased to exist. I have no use for filthy middle eastern sand niggers, be they Jewish, Muslim, or Christian. Their tribal cultures are dysfunctional and incompatible with modern society.
How do you feel about filthy Western terrorists? What is so great about modern society.?
If Israel as a Jewish state ceased to exist, would we really stop our Imperialistic Wars and money-grubbing ways? The cancer which has inflicted our modern society is now terminal and Christianity has not been able to cure it. The stench of corruption, fornication and materialism has permeated and polluted the air all the way to the filthy middle eastern sand niggers, be they Muslim, or Christian.
Are their tribal cultures dysfunctional, or is modern society dysfunctional?
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is faith but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
It seems only one person would like to see the Jews eliminated. Or only one will admit it.
Now I would ask everyone else this question. Do you think that people do the world a favor by scapegoating Jews for everything from 911 to blaming the Jews for Hitler killing them?
Don't you think that if so many would just leave the Jews alone and not try to eliminate them from the middle east and make up all sorts of bad things about them. Don't you think that would go a long way to making a better world?
The Zionists distroy olive trees and other property, Kill and imprison Palistinians and steal their land.
They also are so bigotted against Arabs it doesn't matter how hard working or peaceful the are, pols show most won't rent to them and threaten other Jews who don't feel the same way and do.
You try to channel discussion in this bullshit one liner of a vqanity thread, but it won't work here at 4UM.
Too many people are too educated with the problems with the Zionists in the ME to be herded around by a goat fucker like you.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
The point you miss Stone is the israelis are stealing Palestinian land, livelihood and every scrap of their peace of mind in their own homes.
They are very bigotted and intolerent of others who have lived in Palestine for many generations.
Israel is no democracy, it is a theocracy that promotes the political disenfranchisement of the Palistinian people and treats them much the same way Germqan nazis treated jews before and during WW II.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Would the world be better off if every Jew everywhere was killed?
I oppose genocide and wanton killing period.
Murdering people merely because one has an irrational dislike for them is always evil.
I do believe that those who wish to harm others out of their irrational and unsane dislikes for some group or people should be restrained from doing so.
Neither do I accept or forward any philosophy which justifies the ill treatment of others because they were not born into some "privileged" group.
Every living sentient being on this planet has an immutable God given right to lead whatever existence, or follow whatever belief system they wish so long as they do no harm to others in the process.
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
They are very bigotted and intolerent of others who have lived in Palistine for many generations.
Israel is no democracy, it is a theocracy that promotes the political disenfranchisement of the Palistinian people and treats them much the same way Germqan nazis treated jews before and during WW II.
Some of the more amusing sidelights in the history of Israel is the routine maltreatment bigotry expressed by Ashkenazi Jews toward Arab Jews (who are the Hebrew People of the Old Testament). As well many of those who are Palestinian Christians, Zorastrians, Jews, and Muslims are all descended from the Hebrew People. They have more in common genetically and culturally with other Arabs than with the White Eastern European Khazars who converted to Judaism in the 8th Century for political reasons.
Of course the Rock knows this but is so enrapt by the false Scofield corruption of the Bible that he would kill, and kill, and kill again rather than face the truth of how he has been so misled. Truly a depraved viewpoint.
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
Israel doesn't allow Arabs living there even the right to live on their own land without having rocks and insults thrown at them, permits their land to be openly stolen and their property destroyed (video in this post) and much of israeli policy and governance is colored by their religion.
IT is an Aparthied regime that has no legitamacy as a nation and the international community needs to reel them in and we in the U.S. need to cut their undue influence on our government and all aid to them by us needs to be severed immediately.
Clear Proof - Israel Stealing Palestinian Land
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
You started those threads for the same reason you started this thread here; to build your place up by tearing other political forums down.
Were Christine to tire of your B.S. and ban you again, no doubt your treatment of 4UM would be much less passive aggressive and much more like the childish way you react to Robin having banned you from her place.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
#28. To: A K A Stone, christine. Original_Intent (#26)
#1. To: All, christine (#0)
Quote: Being a bit of a conservative traditionalist myself I kind of favor the ways of my Indian ancestors - bury them in an ant hill, Fire Ants preferably, up to their neck, facing the sun, and then smear their head with honey. While it is quicker than they deserve it does take at least a day or two. Remember The White Rose "Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide. ~ Gautama Siddhartha The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-02-20 18:24:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
christine must like this kind of talk. She not only allows it but encourages it.
A K A Stone posted on 2011-02-20 18:36:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
#29. To: A K A Stone, RickyJ, esso, christine (#26)(Edited)
#2. To: christine, rickyj, esso the sicko, 4dummies (#0)
You guys are so stupid you think Obama is a zionist. No dumb asses he was born of a Jackyl (that is why he doesn't have a birth certificate) and is a muslim dog.
A K A Stone posted on 2011-02-17 7:33:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Another example of you stating your opinion that forms your intent here when you start a thread like this one.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
The revolutionary war. Some would say when Bin Laden was allegedly killed.
What an insular viewpoint! Hundreds of thousands of people have never heard of the revolutionary war or OBL. I'm pretty sure a devout and pious Christian such as yourself, has heard of "Thou Shalt Not Kill."
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is faith but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
What an insular viewpoint! Hundreds of thousands of people have never heard of the revolutionary war or OBL. I'm pretty sure a devout and pious Christian such as yourself, has heard of "Thou Shalt Not Kill."
I'm sure you have heard that there is a time for war.
Some old group even made a song about it. The Birds I think.
"The point you miss Stone is the israelis are stealing Palestinian land, livelihood and every scrap of their peace of mind in their own homes. They are very bigotted and intolerent of others who have lived in Palestine for many generations."
It never bothered you that 30 million Mexicans are doing the same thing to us.
"The point you miss Stone is the israelis are stealing Palestinian land, livelihood and every scrap of their peace of mind in their own homes. They are very bigotted and intolerent of others who have lived in Palestine for many generations."
It never bothered you that 30 million Mexicans are doing the same thing to us.
Is that what the dweeb said. lol. Poor fool is looking for attention.
The Mexicans are in power in D.C. and control the Army and have established a system of aparthied and organized oppression of us?
Apples and Oranges. Both situations are currently issues, but you mis-represent my viewpoint as badly as you cite one thing that has little to do with the other.
As far as immigration goes I have lost jobs in the forest due to it and I want to see the issue resolved. The devil between is in in the details of how, not whether or if this situation should be resolved.
And this has nothing really much in common with a civil war situation where Zionists are going after Arabs in a genocidically manner.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
"Like your hero the unabomber? You know the one whose pic used to sport your tagline."
John Hagee and others like him have the blood of far more people on their hands then Teddy K. ever managed to kill.
If you want to put this in perspective, you are taking someone to task for a tongue in cheek use of a picture in their tagline while at the same time actively excusing the genocide and oppression of millions of people in Palestine.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Naturally you are going to bait rather then diolog OI on his thoughtful and well reasoned post to you.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Like your hero the unabomber? You know the one whose pic used to sport your tagline.
There is strangeness about you. Being so concerned about a logo, and unconcerned about the use of white phosphorus on the native, jewish descendent population of the Palistine - just dandy for the Chosen Ones.