Title: 4um Poll. Would the world be better off... Source:
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Would the world be better off if every Jew everywhere was killed?
I'm sure you have heard that there is a time for war.
Some old group even made a song about it. The Birds I think.
I don't know why I bother!!!
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
From The Holy Bible (King James Version) Attributed to King Solomon
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war; and a time of peace.
Would you like to have a 9" x 12" wood plaque with the text of "To Everything There Is A Season" to hang on your wall or to give as a gift?
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
There is strangeness about you. Being so concerned about a logo, and unconcerned about the use of white phosphorus on the native, jewish descendent population of the Palistine - just dandy for the Chosen Ones.
Hey unabomber wannabe freak. There are wars and injustices all over the world. You only care about Jewish ones. The reason is because you don't believe in God. You are pissed off that the Jews are in the promised land and you can't do anything about it. That is the bottom line. You want the Bible to be proved wrong. You want the Jews to leave so you can say the Bible isn't true. You're a feather fighting an anvil.
The state of Israel has nothing to do with the ancient nation of that name. It was an invention of the Zionists and used to steal a region from multi- generational people who to this day are being stolen from, beaten, killed and jailed unjustly.
You need to learn the facts Stone, your bible did no call for this bastard state to come into being.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Title: The thread that hit the truth so hard that Freedom4um couldn't handle it. Source: A K A Stone URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi Published: May 23, 2006 Author: stone Post Date: 2006-05-23 20:26:47 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 441 Comments: 27
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#31. To: A K A Stone (#22)
your hatred, arrogant judgmentalism, and filthy mouthed attacks on women sicken me. you're delusional if you think you're a witness for Christ.
The Impossible Dream
christine posted on 2006-05-23 19:35:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: christine (#31)
your hatred, arrogant judgmentalism, and filthy mouthed attacks on women sicken me. you're delusional if you think you're a witness for Christ.
Please be specific. What did I say that singled out women?
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 19:51:35 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
THEN SHE DOESN'T ANSWER
#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Yeah the way you show love to a witch is say its ok honey your going to heaven, we all are. Jesus said his word would DIVIDE.
Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you?
What say I?? I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
Zipporah posted on 2006-05-23 19:56:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: Zipporah (#48)
What say I?? I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
Turning people away and drawing them to him. That makes no sense at all.
How about an answer to the question above that you didn't answer.
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 20:00:31 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Zipporah (#48)
So show me something I said that is not true according to the Bible.
Does the Bible say witches are good and we should follow their examples? Or does it say that they are evil and do the work of satan?
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 20:02:05 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#47. To: Zipporah (#42)
Exactly.. the bible says that you will know them (Christians) by their love.. and I dont mean the love of lopping off people's heads .. but the love of Christ .. which is revealed through his people .. so if they're not exhibiting love.. so what should that tell us?
Yeah the way you show love to a witch is say its ok honey your going to heaven, we all are. Jesus said his word would DIVIDE.
Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 19:54:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Yeah the way you show love to a witch is say its ok honey your going to heaven, we all are. Jesus said his word would DIVIDE.
Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you?
What say I?? I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
Zipporah posted on 2006-05-23 19:56:13 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#58. To: A K A Stone (#54)
Stone knock it off.. it's obvious you're trolling .. no question ..
Zipporah posted on 2006-05-23 20:06:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: Zipporah (#58)
So in other words you will not acknowledge Christ before men. I have my answer.
Bye
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 20:08:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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As this thread header from your forum shows, you have a long time bone to pick with 4UM over people not agreeing with you.
It's not like you suddenly started doing baiting like you do in this thread.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
So tell me Stonie, why is it evil to kill a Jew but a blessed thing to off a Wicca practitioner?
A wee bit hypocritical of you, yes?
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
So, when are you gonna come out to Euene to off me, Stonie Boy?
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Mud: A Christian vs. Wiccan debate thread might be interesting for some lurkers, especially if both parties can retain some semblance of civility.
They would be chicken to come over here and do that. I don't have to hold my tongue a little here. Other places I do.
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-23 12:32:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
As you can see, nobody you speak about here is 'chicken,' and your lack of discression in your place is fair game if you really want to continue this game of baiting 4UM and gloating about it at your dump.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
#18. To: A K A Stone (#16) I would say not chicken, actually. But while I wish you well at your site, please close my account. Thanks. A response would be a waste of time too BTW, this is my last sign-in. Mail me at Lurker@surffast.com if you ave anything to say at all. I'll read it, but doubt I'll respond.
Hope your Memorial day was a pleasent one
Regards, Mike McCarthy
Ferret Mike posted on 2006-05-29 23:43:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18) I hope you had a good memorial day too Ferret. I know some of our discussions got kind of brutal. I would say peace to you. I will keep your account open for a while in case you change your mind. Feel free to come here and we can have a civilized discussion anytime. I won't be as mean as I have in the past.
Sincerely Brian
A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-29 23:59:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
And of course, Brian; you immediately proved what a waffling POS you are almost immediately in that thread. As usual.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Naturally you are going to bait rather then diolog OI on his thoughtful and well reasoned post to you.
Thanks. Stoney, does not know reason nor what to do with it. All he knows are petty hatreds and a belief that his beliefs justify mass murder. He does not like that I have repeatedly pointed that out and so he would instead seek to avoid the light.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
#57. To: Original_Intent, christine, A K A Stone (#56)(Edited)
Mike they banned me at 4um. I dont go there anymore. In fact I made a request to christine over there, that she permit Mr. MCiver to delete my mail I have over there. You see they banned me then changed my password. They changed it 4 days after they banned me. If you change someones password you can read their mial, because you would in fact become that person. It is in their records which IP numbers accessed my mail. Like I said she will not permit my mail on her site to be deleted. And for it to be verified that no other person's IP accessed my mail (hint hint)I told you when you requested it that I close your accountthat I would leave it open for a little bit. I thought 3 days to 1 week would be a good policy. This is your second request. So I will close it as soon as possible. It may take a bit as a certain function on this site is currently not available.
As for your question about religious tolerance. I think you can have any belief you want to have. Just as I can.
He is a real peice of work, that one. And there is the long running theme he had when he was last banned here about how unethical christine was in regards to his password and mail.
Nothing is sacred to that guy except his own agenda and feelings.
Piss him off he will expose Pmail, claim misuse of his closed account or whatever it takes to trash someone.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Stonie we all know that you think the world would be better off if every Muslim was killed.......so what's up with the hypocrisy of posting this question about Jews?
You are no different than a person who feels that way about Jews when you harbor that sort of hatred that you do for Muslims. As a Christian, you are commanded to LOVE your enemies, real or imagined.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
don't think that i don't realize what your intention was in starting this thread.
1. to bait without desire of temperate discussion.
2. an attempt to get posters to your forum.
3. to incite conflict between forums.
if it weren't for the fact that there are good comments by posters here, i would delete the thread.
1. Is partially right. I want to know who is reasonalbe and who is not.
2. Completely wrong. Never crossed my mind. There is no link to my site and everyone here already knows about my site.
3. Incite conflict between forums. Not at all. I like you and Jethro. There are people who have vastly different views than me on Israel. I like to poke them and understand why they think the way they do. It is fun. It adds hits to your site.
4. There are good comments here. If you notice Ferret is bringing up stuff from like 5 years ago. If you also notice. I've been ignoring him. If you want to know the intent of the thread. See my comment to pinguinite.
Stonie we all know that you think the world would be better off if every Muslim was killed..
That is funny. My cell phone guy is a muslim and so is the dude at the convenience store I frequent. I like them both. One is a Pakistani and I don't know what the other guy is.
You are no different than a person who feels that way about Jews when you harbor that sort of hatred that you do for Muslims. As a Christian, you are commanded to LOVE your enemies, real or imagined.
I come here to test my beliefs. So far none of you have changed my mind about Israel and the Jews. Some of the hatred directed towards them is irrational in my view.
The light of day in the face of your games here, of course. But you knew that.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
Well, we all know that you aren't......so why not get to work on self-repairs rather than casting stones Stonie?
Reasonable is spelled with the b prior to the l. : )
What do you care about Ferret's intentions? You banned him from your site, so you should have buried your concern over his intentions with that banning rather than coming over here to stir up crap.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Some of the hatred directed towards them is irrational in my view."
And of course when it comes to Muslims, gays or witches, you call to do a blanket extermination of them is totally unlike the alleged desire to destroy all Jews, right?
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
What do you care about Ferret's intentions? You banned him from your site, so you should have buried your concern over his intentions with that banning rather than coming over here to stir up crap.
He came to this thread. I didn't ping him. Also he isn't banned. I don't think I ever banned him..ever.
So far none of you have changed my mind about Israel and the Jews.
To test YOUR beliefs? Why can't you do that at your own site or in front of the mirror in the morning or in a quest for knowledge about issues that you feel need to tested? It's rather arrogant for you to waltz over to Christine's site to test YOUR beliefs. Nobody over here gives a shit and nobody believes that is your intention. I've given you plenty of links that you obviously have never bothered to read, so you really don't want to change any beliefs you just want to stir up shit.
Do some research and educate yourself to confirm or alter your own beliefs. Coming over here to "test your beliefs" is irrational and disingenuous in my view.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
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Liar. You banned me after some posts of mine here at 4UM pissed you off. I just tried the sign on and got the above screen.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
So far none of you have changed my mind about Israel and the Jews.
To test YOUR beliefs? Why can't you do that at your own site or in front of the mirror in the morning or in a quest for knowledge about issues that you feel need to tested? It's rather arrogant for you to waltz over to Christine's site to test YOUR beliefs. Nobody over here gives a shit and nobody believes that is your intention. I've given you plenty of links that you obviously have never bothered to read, so you really don't want to change any beliefs you just want to stir up shit.
Do some research and educate yourself to confirm or alter your own beliefs. Coming over here to "test your beliefs" is irrational and disingenuous in my view.
That is what debate forums are for. To debate, and test yourself.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Give it up Stonie.......nobody believes that you are here to debate. What have you offered in this "debate"......nada, zip, zilch.
You aren't here to alter your beliefs, if you were you would have read links provided for you and have something of substance to offer in a "debate" over an issue. Many posters have offered substance to debate to which you have no retort.
Debating isn't posting mail from your site over here.......that's just gossip.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
Debating isn't posting mail from your site over here.......that's just gossip.
That is ferret. Look up thread and you will see. You're really confused. Look I didn't come here to give you a hard time. You're one of the ones I actually like. Yeah we had a good go round a year or two ago. But I came to like you. If you notice I haven't given you a hard time in quite a while.
Coy doesn't work. THe last conversation we had was over my desire to correct something I said based on a conversation about Pmail and passwords I had with Neil MIver, and because of things Windows 7 does I was unaware off being new to using it. At that time you had suspended the account.
You said, 'no problem,' and you did a full account opening. Then after a few posts here taking your words to task, it went back to probationary allowing ten posts per day.
Then after more posts pissing you off, you banned me. Which was a step beyond the initial suspended status you gave when I refused to unbozo you.
I had also explained to you why I got tired of seeing your childish amd overemotional posts and explained that if there was a moderator issue you could Pmail me here to get my attention.
But you are a drama queen that thinks you should never be bozoed by anyone in your forum.
In other words, you are totally lying here. Which is no surprise.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
I like to poke them and understand why they think the way they do. It is fun. It adds hits to your site
I suspect that you will never understand why anyone thinks any differently than you do.
If the majority of Zionists were Semites, I could be called a rabid anti-Semite. However, I have never, ever, advocated the killing ( in this case, murder ) of any race, religion, or political group. Why would I lower myself to the level of understanding of such a person as you?
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
"If you notice I haven't given you a hard time in quite a while."
More posturing. The only thing I ever said to you on banning Stone was predicated on my impression in knowing you that should you ever decide to go ahead and do it, you would play games concerning this. Just as you are doing now.
I said a long time ago that should you wish to ban me, just do it. That I wouldn't lose sleep over it and believe me I haven't.
You baning me is fine. You lying here about the particualrs concerning it shows I was correct to expect games concerning such an action is just nothing more then what you can expect you.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
For the moment it is. All that means to me is with this software a completely banned account can be restored. Which is something I didn't know about this interface.
You just did that little function on your moderator sceen Stone. The only person you are fooling here is youself.
"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"
For the moment it is. All that means to me is with this software a completely banned account can be restored. Which is something I didn't know about this interface.
You just did that little function on your moderator sceen Stone. The only person you are fooling here is youself.
Nope. You are probationed as you have been since whenever.
If you're going to lie about it...I'll be done with you here.