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Title: 9/11 is now a joke
Source: WorldNetDaily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=318477
Published: Jul 13, 2011
Author: Vox Day
Post Date: 2011-07-13 18:47:11 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 486
Comments: 6

Although a few cynical observers anticipated that Barack Obama, the erstwhile peace candidate, would not end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq – remember, he beat out Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination largely on the grounds of her pro-war positions – no one was cynical enough to foresee that his occupation of the presidency would lead to the U.S. military fighting no less than six wars in its third year under his command.

Republicans who have resolutely supported the ongoing wars of democratic imperialism over the last 10 years are long overdue to answer some very serious questions about the strategic sanity of America's continuous military aggression, particularly now that American troops have returned to the site of their last military defeat in Somalia. Here are seven of them:

1. Are the national interests at stake in Afghanistan and Iraq more vital than eliminating all of the state and local government debt in the United States? The Minnesota government just shut down for the second time in six years, Wisconsin is engaged in a political civil war over its budget and both states are in relatively good financial health compared to bankrupt states such as Illinois and California. The $4 trillion that was spent on two of the six current wars alone would have been enough to not only eliminate the $2.4 trillion in outstanding state and local government debt, but to pay off 16 percent of the outstanding $9.6 trillion in federal debt as well. Alternatively, that $4 trillion could have been used to pay off 31 percent of all U.S. household debt, including mortgages.

2. How many wars are too many wars? The U.S. military is presently engaged in active combat in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Military history clearly shows that a nation's armed forces don't hesitate to overextend themselves and that such over-extensions usually presage a disastrous military defeat.

3. Is a permanent state of war acceptable? Since no conditions for winning what has been variously labeled "The War on Terror," "The Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism," "The Crusade for World Democratic Revolution," "The Bush-Obama Wars," "The Last Gasp of the U.S. Empire," or my personal favorite, "The Drone Wars," have ever been articulated, there is literally no end in sight.

4. Is an aggressive foreign policy even remotely compatible with small-government principles? If the U.S. federal government asserts the right to forcibly intervene inside the borders of nations over which it has no legal authority, there is nothing to prevent it from doing the same within U.S. borders – except, of course, for the same Constitution it is currently ignoring by waging six wars still undeclared by Congress.

5. Why are aliens from enemy nations permitted to migrate to the United States? If their countries are so dangerous that we have to attack them to encourage them to leave us in peace, it seems unlikely that settling tens of thousands of them in cities across the United States is going to make Americans any safer.

6. Why is popular Islamic democracy not only to be preferred to any other form of Arab government, but justification for military intervention? As the military history of democracies from Athens to the United States of America will show, democracies are actually more aggressively militant than most non-democracies. In fact, there has never been a more democratically legitimate leader than Adolf Hitler, who, unlike the unelected neo-fascists of the present European Union, went to the people no less than four times to confirm public support for his actions.

7. How long is it appropriate to fight a war that cannot be won when the nation is bankrupt?

After 10 years of neocons vigorously waving the bloody flag of a relatively trivial number of deaths in New York City, the potency of the emotional appeal to 9/11 has all but vanished. More than twice as many Americans have died in operations "Enduring Freedom" and "Iraqi Freedom" compared to the 2,996 confirmed to have died on Sept. 11, 2001. And an estimated 43,800 Americans have been killed by immigrants during those same 10 years; immigration has been 14 times more deadly to Americans than Islamic terror over the last decade.

What was once an open wound in the nation's psyche has become nothing more than a Pavlovian bell rung by a manipulative political class to cause conservatives to stop thinking rationally and instead react like dogs drooling over dinner. Not only is 9/11 now a joke, it has become a corrupt symbol of many things that the original Independence Day was declared to oppose.

And here is one last question to consider as you celebrate the tattered vestiges of what was once American freedom. After every war of the 20th century, from World War I to Vietnam, Americans eventually learned that they had been manipulated into going to war by their political leaders. From the sinking of the Maine to the Gulf of Tonkin, from Woodrow Wilson's secret machinations to those of Winston Churchill and F.D.R., history has always revealed that the bloody flag was at least partially stained with red paint. In light of what has happened in the last 10 years, what are the odds that this is not also true of the current collection of wars?


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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

Americans eventually learned that they had been manipulated into going to war by their political leaders. From the sinking of the Maine to the Gulf of Tonkin, from Woodrow Wilson's secret machinations to those of Winston Churchill and F.D.R., history has always revealed that the bloody flag was at least partially stained with red paint

I cannot understand the American population swallowing the bilge spewing from washington,my my my but how can anyone not even get a slight hint that everything from this government is crap.What will it take for the sheeple too awake? Everyday I discuss this topic with my friends in downtown Huntington...and to a man,they all are in total disgust of the direction this nation has set sail on,and with the next breathe say 'how about those Navy Seals gettin Ben Laden'.There is a serious disconnect here,what will it take,placate them and say that liberal mutants disguised as republicans are trying to infiltrate our government?Why doesn't Ron Paul run as an independant,doesn't he get it? The zionist controlled media will rubber stamp Romney and bye bye Ron.We will not realize sanity until after chaos rules...who knows how long that will take?

paddlefeet  posted on  2011-07-13   20:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

A man with a brain.

Yes, and for that reason, totally unelectable.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-07-13   22:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)

Yes, and for that reason, totally unelectable.

Beale refers to himself as a "superintelligence." He's not up to my level as a Krell Megabrain but I still read him every day.

"THRUSH believes in the two-party system: the masters and the slaves." -- Napoleon Solo, "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."

Turtle  posted on  2011-07-14   11:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#0)

Bin Laden Plotted 9/11 Anniversary Attack - WSJ.com

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-07-14   20:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

The $4 trillion that was spent on two of the six current wars alone would have been enough to not only eliminate the $2.4 trillion in outstanding state and local government debt, but to pay off 16 percent of the outstanding $9.6 trillion in federal debt as well. Alternatively, that $4 trillion could have been used to pay off 31 percent of all U.S. household debt, including mortgages.

911 *WAS AND IS* an Inside Job


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-07-14   20:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

GREAT article, but....

After 10 years of neocons vigorously waving the bloody flag of a relatively trivial number of deaths in New York City, the potency of the emotional appeal to 9/11 has all but vanished. More than twice as many Americans have died in operations "Enduring Freedom" and "Iraqi Freedom" compared to the 2,996 confirmed to have died on Sept. 11, 2001. And an estimated 43,800 Americans have been killed by immigrants during those same 10 years; immigration has been 14 times more deadly to Americans than Islamic terror over the last decade.

Over 70,000 deaths, and over 1 million disabilities among American soldiers

By wmw_admin on March 27, 2008

"U.S. investigative researchers have discovered an official U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs official, but not well publicized count, of 73,846 U.S. soldiers who have perished as an apparent result of Depleted Uranium based bio-chemical warfare exposure. This exceeds an estimate of 58,000 U.S. soldiers who had been killed in relation to the Vietnam War.

Well over 200,000 American soldiers could be killed by 2010, as a result of the after effects of exposure to U.S. dirty bombs.

Over One million U.S. soldiers have apparently been disabled from Depleted Uranium based biochemical exposure. Over one million Iraqis have also been documented to have been killed......

Millions of Iraqis could be killed as a result of contamination from the use of U.S. “strategic” “mini nuclear bombs”.

It is apparent that a Eugenics-inspired megalomaniacal fascist clique seeks to further make Iran a toxic nuclear wasteland

The use of these dirty bombs demonstrates that the War in Iraq is not simply about “going after terrorists”, but rather, is the apparent premeditated execution of Crimes against Humanity. The kind of demonic intelligence that is associated with such a Crime against Humanity is consistent with the kind of criminal profile associated with what critically acclaimed author Dr. David Ray Griffin labels as the ultimate perpetrators of 9/11.

What kind of socio-pathetic milieu would seek to inspire jingoistic patriotism in statements about military personnel “defending the Homeland” while wilfully exposing them to the toxic by-products of radiation poisoning?

Libertyforlife.com researchers document: “What the government is doing is only counting the soldiers that die in action on the ground before they can get them into a hummer, helicopter or ambulance. Any soldier who is shot but they get into a vehicle before ‘the die’ is not counted.”

“Uranium poisoning, which can take decades to kill not only the soldier but family members as well” are further cited documents in Libertyforlife.com......"

more: www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=8379

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-07-15   14:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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