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Title: Freemasons wrote the Book of Revelation !!!
Source: Youtube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vycLXgIUc&feature=youtu.be
Published: Jul 13, 2011
Author: soulteachings
Post Date: 2011-07-13 21:59:19 by CadetD
Keywords: freemasons, Revelation
Views: 437
Comments: 19

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#1. To: All (#0)

I meant to post comment that I'm not necessarily on-board with this, but it's interesting to consider.

CadetD  posted on  2011-07-13   22:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CadetD (#1)

Trying to figure out the cause and effect...

Another thing to consider is that who wrote it was inspired, that is, directed by an unseen entity or entities.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-13   22:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#2)

Another thing to consider is that who wrote it was inspired, that is, directed by an unseen entity or entities.

Proof? Anyone can claim to be inspired, but where is the PROOF that they in fact WERE inspired and not just making it up as they went along?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-13   22:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CadetD (#0)

Let's see. You're telling me that the Freemasons existed by the beginning of the Fourth century -- the period of the oldest manuscript of the Book of Revelations -- and not only wrote it but persuaded the early Christian church to accept it? And your proof that the Freemasons existed this early is ....?

Shoonra  posted on  2011-07-13   22:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#4)

Let's see. You're telling me

I'm not telling you anything, just posting something which might be of interest, that's all.

CadetD  posted on  2011-07-13   23:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Proof? Anyone can claim to be inspired, but where is the PROOF that they in fact WERE inspired and not just making it up as they went along?

It's my opinion from my experience that we here in the 3rd dimension are governed by entities from other dimensions.

Difficult to prove.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-13   23:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Shoonra, CadetD (#4)

Freemasonry existed before Christ I think. Goes back as far as the Egyptians doesn't it?


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-13   23:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Shoonra, CadetD (#4)

You're telling me that the Freemasons existed by the beginning of the Fourth century -- the period of the oldest manuscript of the Book of Revelations

Secret societies have been around for a VERY long time.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-13   23:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#6)

It's my opinion from my experience that we here in the 3rd dimension are governed by entities from other dimensions.

Different realms would be the better word I think. And not so much governed, but in co-existance with.

Difficult to prove.

If you've ever seen a ghost or observed its behavior (such as making objects move), it's not hard to believe. HOWEVER, who gets to say THEY are the ones whom these entities are truly in touch with, and that the entities they are in touch with, if they are in fact in touch, are GOOD and TRUTHFUL entities?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-13   23:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

I'm sure some of them have some control over people.

I guess it's up to each of us as individuals to discern what is good and true and what isn't.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-14   0:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CadetD (#0)

This can't be cause the free masons were started by Jews and are controlled by Jews. Revelations has Jesus calling them devils and vipers and that they worship at the synagogue of Satan.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-07-14   1:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ, CadetD (#11)

He was talking about fake Jews.

bible.cc/revelation/2-9.htm


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)................. Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-14   2:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz (#12)

He was talking about fake Jews.

Yeah I know, but those that started the free masons, as well as Jews of today, are fake Jews.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-07-14   4:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz (#7)

Freemasonry existed before Christ I think. Goes back as far as the Egyptians doesn't it?

From the Book of Ezekiel:8 (I believe this is a Masonic meeting being described in the Bible).

5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.

6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.

12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, the LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.

13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

Frederic Bastiat

noone222  posted on  2011-07-14   6:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Proof? Anyone can claim to be inspired, but where is the PROOF that they in fact WERE inspired and not just making it up as they went along?

It's not necessary that everyone "get it" ... the exact definition or description of God is usually reduced by man to allow for his small mind some ability to grasp the immense wonder that surrounds mankind and explain it.

The curious are not denied here on earth as there is much to explore and study.

"Proof" is something that practically doesn't exist, and even when it does it's often argued against.

"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

Frederic Bastiat

noone222  posted on  2011-07-14   6:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CadetD (#0)

It'd be a difficult task to deny Masonic involvment in international affairs over the centuries and their ability to acquire power. Originating the Book of Revelations - which is in accord with the Prophecies of Daniel (see Book of Daniel) whose author lived 500 or 600 years before the Book of Revelations was written, wouldn't be that difficult or it could be written in such a vague way as to allow the reader his/her own interpretation like Nostradamus'.

I have always thought that it'd take a vivid imagination and some extrasensory power to know that the Middle-East could be the central element in a world wide conflict (latter times) at the time the Book of Revelations was written.

The current state of affairs has developed over the struggle for world dominance and oil that even if known about by the Freemasons at the time when Revelations was written - "they couldn't have known then what it would be used for" or "that it would drive world wide production of nearly everything" giving it the necessary relevance to stir up a war and become an international battlefield.

It's a very hard thing to determine just exactly who the bad guys are when we categorize them as Jesuits, Jews or Masonics. Most here know the historical background of all of these groups and that they have all been expelled from countries many times for their subversions.

I think it's all of them working together to achieve the common goal of world governance (a Global Plantation) and when the time is right they'll work out whose to be the leader.

It is amazing to me how much damage has been done to scripture by the heretics and criminals that have taken authority over the churches ! They have so corrupted the church that many refuse to study the scriptures in depth.

"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

Frederic Bastiat

noone222  posted on  2011-07-14   6:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: CadetD (#0)

IMO, Freemasons [or JEWS (see speech at my tagline), Jesuits, Illuminati, British-Israelites (see the scepterofjudah website), or whatever you want to call them], wrote the script for the "Book of Revelation VOLUME II". See Revelation 20:7-9 where the "nations are DECEIVED" to make war against the saints, Christians, across the globe and in the "beloved city", Zion bible.cc/psalms/87-2.htm , also Psalm 2:6, which IMO = America http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421 ....see Matthew Henry commentary: bible.cc/revelation/20-7.htm ]. IMO, this "Book of Revelation, Volume II", also known as The Protocols of SION, (Sion really being Mt. HERMON, often deliberately confused with "Zion"), is what you see playing out on the world scene today, where Christianity and in particular, Christian America, must be destroyed in order to make way for the Jew World Order. [The Lord will have them in derision Psalm 2].

MOST of the Book of Revelation as dictated by Jesus Christ took place upon the destruction of the Whore of Babylon, Old Jerusalem in 70 AD. [As a partial preterist, I believe we are living through Revelation 20:7-9 right now, a time of great DECEPTION.]

See the account of the destruction of Jerusalem by the Pharisee, Josephus, and how it fulfilled the Book of Revelation and other prophecies:

http://www.preteristarchive.com/...timeline_theological.html

See also the online book DAYS OF VENGEANCE [ bible.cc/luke/21-22.htm ] by David Chilton:

"....Days of Vengeance

An Exposition of The Book of Revelation [CHAPTER BY CHAPTER, VERSE BY VERSE]

Year of Publication 1990

David Chilton has done it. He has finally done it. He has written a book on Revelation that is sure to spark an eschatological revolution. With Paradise Restored, he embalmed the old corpse of "pessimillenialism." But now, with The Days of Vengeance, he has nailed shut the sarcophagus, sealed the crypt, and made off into the night rehearsing profound eulogies. But, not only does he return the zombies of the end times doomsaying to the dust from whence they came, Chilton has resurrected with cogency, clarity, and admirable consistency a genuinely Biblical "optimillenialism."

The Days of Vengeance is an extraordinary exposition of the book of Revelation and will undoubtedly be welcomed as a cool drenching rain upon a dry, thirsty ground. Long parched and impoverished by speculative spectacularization, the evangelical scholastic wilderness can do naught but soak in Chilton's careful and literate commentary.

The Days of Vengeance is phenomenal. It is big (nearly 750 pages big, going where no commentary has dared to go before). It is brash (marshalling mountains of long forgotten evidence to the cause). It is a brazen bravura, a delight, a tour de force. If you have a "must read list," put this book at the top of that list. If you don't have such a list, start one. And start here, with The Days of Vengeance.
-George Grant
Pastor and Author

Inside Flap

From the very beginning, cranks and crackpots have attempted to use Revelation to advocate some new twist on the Chicken Little Doctrine: "The Sky Is Falling!" But, as David Chilton shows in this careful, detailed exposition, St. John's Apocalypse teaches instead that Christians will overcome all opposition through the work of Jesus Christ. Most of the confusion over the meaning of the prophecy has resulted from a failure to apply five crucial interpretive keys to the Book of Revelation.

1. Revelation is the most "Biblical" book in the Bible. St. John quotes hundreds of passages from the Old Testament, often with subtle allusions to little-known rituals of the Ancient Near East. In order to understand Revelation, we need to know our Bibles backward and forward (or, at least, own a commentary that explains it!).

2. Revelation is a prophecy about imminent events - events that were about to break loose on the world of the first century. Revelation is not about nuclear warfare, space travel, or the end of the world. Again and again it specifically warns that "the time is near!" Revelation cannot be understood unless this fundamental fact is taken seriously.

3. Revelation has a system of symbolism. Everyone recognized that St. John wrote his message in symbols. But the meaning of those symbols is not up for grabs. There is a systematic structure in Biblical symbolism. in order to understand Revelation properly, we must become familiar with the "language" in which it is written.

4. Revelation is a worship service. St. John did not write a textbook on prophecy. Instead, he recorded a heavenly worship service in progress. One of his major concerns, if fact, is that the worship of God is central to everything in life. It is the most important thing we do.

5. Revelation is a book about dominion. Revelation is not a book about how terrible the Antichrist is, or how powerful the devil is. It is, as the very first verse says, "The revelation of Jesus Christ." It tells us about His lordship over all; it tells us about our salvation and victory in the New Covenant, God's "wonderful plan for our life"; it tells us that the kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our God, and of His Christ; and it tells us that He shall reign forever and ever.

Catalog Description

This is quite possibly the most comprehensive verse by verse treatment of the Book of Revelation ever written. David Chilton has tackled what Calvin and Luther never even attempted. Following in the train of thought of his Paradise Restored, Chilton sees the Church triumphant to the end with Satan defeated at the return of Christ. The Apostle John presents a vision of victorious Christians who overcome all opposition through the work of Jesus Christ. Chilton asserts that for too long the Church has labored under the delusion that failure is her only role in the world. An inviting, yet non-threatening commentary for the layman as well as the scholar."

http://freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2226_47e.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-07-14   9:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222 (#15) (Edited)

"Proof" is something that practically doesn't exist, and even when it does it's often argued against.

There is substantial proof that there are realms beyond our own. It is obvious that science has practically zero understanding of such.

There is also substantial evidence that men lie, fabricate tales, and force others to believe those tales under penalty of torture, death, and/or eternal damnation. The way I see it, ANY group who has FORCED people to "believe" under such threat is EVIL, and anything they say or represent is ALSO evil.

An understanding of what might be called God is not to be found in any book, it comes from the soul, and the matter of whether it is TRULY an understanding of God can be judged by the actions of the person with that understanding, and his or her view of other creatures, whether it be empathy and compassion, or cruelty and disdain.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-07-14   10:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CadetD (#0)

Revelation almost didn't even make it into the Bible......folks at the time preferred the Apocalypses of Peter but since it contained much "hidden knowledge" and, in particular, the notion that the love and compassion of all those in heaven could free the poor souls in hell, the Biblical Cannon creators felt that such a claim would lead the sheep to more sin and opted for Revelation instead.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-07-14   11:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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