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Title: More shit you won't believe.
Source: Me
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Published: Jul 23, 2011
Author: Me
Post Date: 2011-07-23 15:50:00 by TommyTheMadArtist
Keywords: None
Views: 622
Comments: 43

This morning, wife goes upstairs, to find a nice bullet hole through our window, and into the wall. We called the police. Two hours later they show up. They didn't bother with doing any ballistics. They didn't give a shit. They chalked it up to us living in a bad neighborhood. I know where the round came from. I know who shot at my house, as they told me there was some "Nice Shooting" the other night.

I explained to him that there's a Russian Proverb about poking a bear with a stick. Of course he didn't speak white English, or any Russian.

I've come to a crossroads folks. All I know is that you do not shoot at my house, and get away with it.

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#1. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Take it easy, Tommy. You sound like you're on the edge.

Take it easy. I love you even if your bad neighbors don't.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-07-23   15:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0) (Edited)

Hey, Tommy, unless you got a whole lot of backup, pull or access to professional talent, you should not contemplate doing what, morally, ought to be done in this case. The authorities will not help you here. I have been in a similar situation in Virginia.

One way or another, you have to get your ass out of there, friend. Find yourself a new set of neighbors. You know you got the best wishes of all the posters here. We don't want to see you get your ass in a sling.

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randge  posted on  2011-07-23   16:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0) (Edited)

Your experience mirrors mine with rental units.

I stupidly thought that if they were fixed up really nicely, the tenants would take pride in their new homes and take good care of them.

I was soon enough disabused of that notion.

You can take da boyz outta da hood, but you cannot take da hood outta da boyz.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-07-23   16:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

I explained to him that there's a Russian Proverb about poking a bear with a stick. Of course he didn't speak white English, or any Russian.

Tommy

A - Never broadcast your intentions

B- Obviously the social experiment you attempted is a failure. Take your loss, sell the house and move on.

C - None of your scumbag neighbors are worth spending a second in jail for. Sell the house and move on.

D - Even if you killed 50 of'em, others will come. Sell the house and move on.

E - Sell the house and move on.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-07-23   16:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock, TommyTheMadArtist (#4)

I'd like to echo Flint's sentiments. Namely A-E but especially C.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-07-23   17:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Flintlock, Tommy, Anyone considering a move, 4 (#4)

interesting demographic site -

zipskinny.com

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-07-23   17:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

This is a little erudite, but worth the read. I can explain any of it if you need assistance. I strongly suspect it is topical. http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/hood.htm

Don't be the last one.

freeedom  posted on  2011-07-23   17:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite, Flintlock, TommyTheMadArtist (#5)

A - Never broadcast your intentions

B- Obviously the social experiment you attempted is a failure. Take your loss, sell the house and move on.

C - None of your scumbag neighbors are worth spending a second in jail for. Sell the house and move on.

D - Even if you killed 50 of'em, others will come. Sell the house and move on.

E - Sell the house and move on.

Flintlock has the chose your battles wisely gig down pat, Please make an organized retrograde action (retreat) from your location. We don't need to lost you to a Billy Jack movie senario.

We care about you as no doubt many others you know in real time do. If you go out in a flash it will make your art more valuble, but that won't help you if you are dead or in a locked hole.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-07-23   17:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

We called the police.

They didn't give a shit.

You didn't expect the police to investigate or arrest any of their drug dealers or drug customers, did you?

sizzlerguy  posted on  2011-07-23   17:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sizzlerguy (#9)

Exactly, calling the police just puts one on the radar screen of people that can and do more harm than good in too many cases.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-07-23   17:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#4)

C - None of your scumbag neighbors are worth spending a second in jail for. Sell the house and move on.

I concur.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-07-23   18:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Sell the house, move to an unknown (to them) location, and make sure you have an airtight alibi when somebody smokes that motherfucker.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2011-07-23   18:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#0)

We found the pussy 9mm round that came through the window, and hit the wall. There were plenty of lands and grooves on the round, because it didn't spall out. I had my confrontation today with two different cops, one with my lawyer present. I have concluded that at the end of our 5 and a half year sentence here, we will be moving. Unless I hit the lottery jackpot, We're stuck here a minimum of 5 and a half years.

The thing is, I'm not a coward. I do not run from anyone. People not standing up is what caused this problem to begin with. People have allowed this to go on, and on and on. It is far past time to put an end to this crap. I want my neighborhood to be safe, not only for me, but for everyone. I will stay and fight. There are good people here. There are honest people here. They are afraid. I am not.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-23   21:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)

Help me here - are you staying or moving?

You cannot change that hood.

Get out while you can.

Good luck with it.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-07-23   21:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)

If you live in a single-member district get to know your city councilman and ask for increased police patrols down your street. If that won't work, find the at-large city councilman who is perceived as a crime fighter and ask him for increased police patrols down your street. Ask your police to have their patrolmen catch up on their paperwork while parked on your street. Round up all the addresses in your neighborhood where the bad characters live and dump them in a detectives' lap. Work the system, sometimes it's all you've got.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-07-23   21:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#14)

I'm staying. I have an investment in this house. I need to stick it out. I want to do everything I can legally to get rid of this piece of filth. He had his gaggle of homies over this evening. The cops know who this guy is on a first name basis.

I was told that this guy is bad news. I'm not scared for me. I'm concerned for my family. This is not a good place to be anymore.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-23   22:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)

We're stuck here a minimum of 5 and a half years.

5 1/2 years is a long time. Is whatever profit you make (if any in this market) worth living with scum? You can sometimes get your money back, but you'll never get the time back.

And remember: you have to be lucky everyday, they only have to be lucky once.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-07-23   22:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pinguinite (#5)

I'd like to echo Flint's sentiments. Namely A-E but especially C.

===========================================

Made sense.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-23   22:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#16)

Think long and hard about staying, BUT DON'T GET RUN OFF!

Is the one doing the shooting the RULE or the EXCEPTION on the block? Is he doing it to others also?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-23   22:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#16)

The cops know who this guy is on a first name basis.

Time for the morgue to get acquainted with this mope.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-07-23   22:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: X-15, TommyTheMadArtist (#15)

Ask your police to have their patrolmen catch up on their paperwork while parked on your street. Round up all the addresses in your neighborhood where the bad characters live and dump them in a detectives' lap.

===============================================

You can also spend a couple hundred $$$ to have a private investigator find out if there are any open warrants or skeletons stinky enough to put his butt in jail.

At the least, you'll know who you're dealing with, and what to expect.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-23   22:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#19)

Actually the exception. My block isn't bad. Go up 3 blocks to the west, and it's bad. Go north 4 blocks, it's bad. Go South 3 blocks, Bad. Go east, and it's actually not bad at all.

The problem is where I live. Had a bullet not come through my window, I would have been content to let the guy do what he does, so long as it does not affect me. But now he has done something stupid. I had the round to prove it. I imagine more rounds will head my way before the cops really intervene. I actually contacted my local ATF agent to see what could be done, since this was indeed an act of terrorism.

Waiting for a response.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-23   22:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#21)

The cops gave me his info. They know who he is by name, and reputation.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-23   22:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#22)

I imagine more rounds will head my way before the cops really intervene.

They'll intervene, after the fact, when you or a family member have been shot.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-07-23   22:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-07-23   22:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sizzlerguy (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-07-23   22:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#23) (Edited)

The cops gave me his info. They know who he is by name, and reputation.

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PM

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HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-07-24   0:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Flintlock (#4)

C - None of your scumbag neighbors are worth spending a second in jail for. Sell the house and move on.

Exactly.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-07-24   2:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist (#1) (Edited)

Take it easy, Tommy. You sound like you're on the edge.

Like you wouldn't be on edge if someone shot at your house?

Tommy I am praying for you and your family. There are no safe places in America anymore. Criminals can and do travel to nice neighborhoods for loot and to sell drugs to kids. Sometimes the safest place to be is in a "bad neighborhood" because everyone figures you don't have anything worth taking or you wouldn't be living there.

If you absolutely know without a doubt who did it and the police won't take any action then I pray there will be a solution that won't be seen as revenge. You don't want to go to jail unless you have no choice.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-07-24   3:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#22) (Edited)

But now he has done something stupid. I had the round to prove it.

Unless he voluntarily surrenders the firearm used (unlikely) or is arrested with it in his possession if there were no witnesses the gun may never be seized or tested.

It may be a reasonable assumption that "your guy" fired the shot but the simple truth is you don't know that it wasn't an impulsive homey of his who did it.

In short, don't look to the law for help with the bullet through your window. And if he turns up dead or suddenly in need of a colostomy bag (as was the case with a real bad hombre who tried to escape from prison here when a guard received permission to fire his Mini 14 in the dark in the last known direction of the escapee) you'll be the first person they visit and YOUR guns will be tested for a ballistic match.

And fifty cents worth of gasoline through a window at night can change your life and other things that I dare not even mention. Assuming that you do not want to go to prison or forfeit your life then you must accept that you cannot win against a dirtbag with little or nothing to lose. It's a pisser I know, but unless he actually presents the opportunity for a clean use of deadly force in self defense inside your home (you cannot walk down to the corner hangout thereby putting yourself in harm's way then claim self defense and expect to escape the justice system that refuses to protect you) then your best option is to get the Hell out. The cops have no sympathy for citizens who stand up to gangstas and then get themselves killed, any more than they would if someone decided to single handedly rid the state of venomous snakes and is bitten for his trouble.

It will come down to "screw right and wrong. How well do you perceive the potential danger to you and your family?" If a gangsta (that you challenged, perhaps by not breaking off in a staring contest) harms you or yours well, that's expected of him. But if you harm him in anger and without proper legal grounds you're supposed to know better and "rise above it" and you must be punished. And the minorities on your jury will see it just that way. Bet on it. ("Junior didn't know no betta, but you white an' you ain't supposed to victimize him!")

Sadly, this is how the system works. You are literally disadvantaged by the laws that apply only to you and not to a poor, underprivileged, third gen minority criminal whose understanding of the law is equal to the genetically-predisposed-to-violence-ape with the bone club in 2001-A SPACE ODYSSEY. If he goes to prison he'll get better food and health care than ever before (and all the whites he can rape) and due to overcrowding he'll be released after serving a fraction of his sentence. His rep will be boosted while prison would ruin your life and leave your family to fend for themselves. And to the cops any man with a gun (other than a merchant during a robbery) is the bad guy. They don't allow for a law abiding homeowner defending his life and property against armed criminals, especially if the cop was once a gangbanger himself. Unless you are clearly the victim you'll be portrayed as a white racist vigilante, and that makes you the real threat in a system dominated by non whites with only a rudimentary understanding of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-07-24   4:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)

This was the best commentary and read of the week. I know what needs to be done, and how to take care of the problem, by the book. From what I understand this guy pulls this crap and eventually gets kicked out of wherever, and moves on. I'm going to see about facilitating his moving on.

Thanks for all the concern folks. Should there come a day when I stop posting, I will probably be in the process of moving. To Texas. At least there I stand a better chance of correcting a problem and being rewarded for it, as opposed to being hamstrung by a bunch of passive aggressives.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-24   9:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Draw an imaginary line (or use a string) from the hole in the wall through the hole in the window and you'll know exactly where the round was fired from. You'll probably find it came from this asshole's front porch.


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Critter  posted on  2011-07-24   10:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)

Sadly, this is how the system works.

The pigs and the politicians protect and serve their drug dealing relatives, their drug dealers customers, and thier criminal informant drug addicts.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2011-07-24   10:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Critter (#32)

Already did the math, and triangulation. The angle of trajectory is in fact from the person's apartment door.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-24   12:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34)

I have decided to run for the 7th ward Alderman's Seat. I bet I will bury my competition.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-07-24   23:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#35)

I have decided to run for the 7th ward Alderman's Seat. I bet I will bury my competition.

I think that is a great idea.

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tom007  posted on  2011-07-24   23:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#31)

I will probably be in the process of moving. To Texas.

i hope you decide to do that anyway. i've always wanted to meet 'themadartist'. ;)

The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. ~ H.L. Mencken

christine  posted on  2011-07-24   23:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#37)

I'm not sure he would like the heat. Hell, I saw two trees fighting over a dog the other day.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

intotheabyss  posted on  2011-07-24   23:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: intotheabyss (#38)

I saw two trees fighting over a dog the other day.

hahahaha. good one.

The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. ~ H.L. Mencken

christine  posted on  2011-07-25   0:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#39)

In times as these, we all need a little levity every now and then:) Im glad it made you laugh.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

intotheabyss  posted on  2011-07-25   0:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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