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Title: GOP Demands $55 Million Taxpayer Dollars For 2012 Convention Security (But Demands You to Sacrifice Social Security)
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Published: Jul 24, 2011
Author: http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-conve
Post Date: 2011-07-24 17:29:55 by tom007
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GOP Demands $55 Million Taxpayer Dollars For 2012 Convention Security July 15, 2011 By Jason Easley 172digg Share4768 44 Republicans have been telling us that America can’t afford Social Security, Medicare, or unemployment, but they want taxpayers to foot the bill for $55 million worth of security at the 2012 GOP convention. This is what the GOP’s fiscal conservatism really looks like. The video from My Fox Tampa Bay: Buckhorn pushes for funds for RNC security: MyFoxTAMPABAY.com Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn was in full give us money or the terrorists win mode, “We need to make sure that the nominee and the delegates are safe because God forbid there be an incident… This is a national security event. They’ve got to live up to their obligation. And yes, it’s a lot of money. But without that money, we would have almost an impossible task trying to put this on.” In typical Republican fashion, they want the money RIGHT NOW!!!! The RNC host committee’s Ken Jones said, “We need the money soon. We can’t wait until next year. We have to have it this year. That’s very important.” Sadly, Bob Buckhorn is a Democrat. Mayor Buckhorn does have some legitimate concerns. In the current economic environment, no US city could afford to foot the bill for such an event. The mayor is worried that DC is going to leave him high and dry and his city will lose the convention. However, I disagree with both Mayor Buckhorn and Ken Jones that the only way for the 2012 GOP convention to be able to afford security is if the taxpayers get stuck with the bill. Why can’t the RNC show us how effective the private sector can be and raise the money themselves? I am sure the Koch Brothers would be glad to cut a check to get the ball rolling. Republicans are always telling the American public that the big government is a waste, so instead of paying Tampa police for security, why don’t they just award a no bid contract to Xe? Before we let Republicans privatize our schools, prisons, and every other public asset that isn’t nailed down, they should use themselves as a case study. Find a private contractor that will provide top notch comprehensive security for less than $55 million, then we’ll be glad to discuss privatization. Republicans have been telling us that we can’t afford Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Veterans benefits, public education, unemployment benefits, and even in some extreme cases police and firefighters. If we can’t afford basic public services, then where is the money supposed to come from for us to pay for security at the GOP convention? If we are too broke to take care of seniors, vets, the disabled, and the poor, then we are also too broke pay for people to work the door at your self-congratulatory four day kegger. Sorry GOP, but we’re broke. Remember?
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
They wouldn't need that much security if they actually operated for the good of the Republic.
Political parties are not government entities and should not be subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
They should trust God to protect them, seeing as they actively portray themselves as being the Chosen Ones.
Bottom line.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson The repubs are "special".
Republicans cannot buy enough security in 2012. And they know it.
I bet there is an Island in Norway that will not be used next summer for it's usual purpous. Send them there to have their convention. It's sucure for them, and if boats are kept away from that place and the sky made a no fly zone, we will be more secure here.
Ron Paul is a Republican, you got a problem with him? Or Rand? Your slip is showing.....and it's red.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
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Are you two love birds insinuating the the democrats act in the interest of the Republic? Name one, just one RAT who stands to defend the Constitution. You can't because there are none, zero, nada. Sheesh, you guys claim to be politically savvy? ROTFLMAO
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
I don't think Ron or Rand Paul will even be allowed to use the kitchen entrance from the alley at the GOP convention next year.
Don't be so sure. Much to the chagrin of the neocons, Ron and Rand are not alone, especially on the State level. You want statisim? You need look no further than the current crop of RATS running the country.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
You will not find me defending the Demoncrats. They are every bit as corrupt as the Republicrats. My general view is "a pox on both their houses." My comment stands though. If the GOP were truly operating in the interests of the country and its people they would have only the occasional nut to worried about. However, that is not the case. Like the Dems they operate first in their own personal interest and then for whoever gives them the most Campaign This was about the Republicans. Why are you assuming? Did my post raise a question in you? Why don't you ask before you dump on people? Why the defaut to a 'love bird' insult? With all due respect, put your mind in gear before you put your mouth in motion. I am not responding you in any defensive way because I have nothing here to apologize for.
My comment stands too. And I'm not happy with either party as well.
Roger that. I could live with a Kennedy Democrat, who understood how high taxes hurt the working man both directly and indirectly, or a Reagan Republican who understood the same. It is an interesting quirk of history, and policy, that JFK's proposed tax policies were not all that different from Reagan's. It is not that taxes are the only issue I care about, but our current regime of economic duress via taxation falls most heavily upon those least able to bear the burden. Not to mention government wastes trillions each year now.
Or Rand? Either Ron and Rand are RINOS or the rest of the GOP in Congress are. Clearly they are not birds of the same feather since Ron clings to the classic definition of small govt conservative and he often votes by himself against all revenue bills he views as unconstitutional. The fact that he was forced to start his own caucus because he shares little or nothing with big govt Republicans is further proof that you are disingenuous when using The Pauls to lend respectability to the worm eaten GOP majority. We have a de facto two party govt and Paul is forced to serve as a Pub simply because they more closely reflect his views than Dems, or perhaps because they once stood for the things he supports. Why should someone have to explain the reason he doesn't run as a 3rd party outsider and lose every time you bring this up? Do you believe that Ron Paul has anything in common with a GOP that has no problem with The FED, foreign aid or unconstitutional taxation? And for the record, any similarity between The Pauls and state level Pubs is incidental. Those who hold traditional conservo views (or who simply parrot them to get elected to state office) have no influence in the backrooms where the National GOP deals are cut. All such candidates must "mature" into national PUBS (and support Israel, The Fed, foreign aid, funding for ground to air missile batteries for every American synagogue, etc.,) before ever being seriously considered for a spot on the national ticket. At some point you'll have to realize that your belief in "PUBs=good and DEMs=bad" is simply a control mechanism. Until you shed your Pollyanna support for (either half-there is no difference) the two party Rockefeller system of corporate control of the US then all that will ever be needed to neutralize you is one voter who is a dedicated, true believer, welfare state Democrat. In short, we have seen the enemy and it is you, along with your equally dedicated mirror among the Democrats. Both sides serve to maintain the "ph (political huckster) balance" that allows the shadow govt to continue the destruction of America. Neither side has to compromise their "theoretical core principles" one iota (even though you entire congressional delegation won't embrace them in practice) and yet they continually neutralize the other enough to prevent either acid or alkali from dominating or otherwise upsetting the carefully funded and hand picked system of bribed and/or blackmailed Rockefeller stooges (Clinton, a "damn good D" and Bush, a "damn good R") in office. I'd be willing to bet that you know the truth but you don't have to courage to risk being ostracized by family and/or associates you like and respect. I can understand this because I didn't have the courage to alienate a nice elderly lady while she was still alive. She was a staunch supporter of the death penalty after her son was murdered. It was an anti who pointed out to me that people like me who support capital punishment in theory often have second thoughts when they learn of the reality in practice. In theory I support it but I no longer trust wormy, career climbing prosecutors or judges who refuse to allow belated DNA testing or incompetent public defenders to decide which poor, powerless slob (It's rarely if ever an issue for rich or influential defendants) lives or dies. I was standing in a federal courtroom when a popular reporter said to me, "Oh well, he's probably guilty of something else" in response to my question about wrongfully executing a defendant. The Gannett reporter was clearly kissing up to the two federal deputy AGs present and I wanted to kick him in his ovaries for his cowardice before it occurred to me that I've been guilty of similar offenses. So, go ahead and attack me even though I allowed you a window of escape....But, please don't insult me or your fellow brethern & sistern by claiming that the current GOP is "the party of American values".
Yawn.....
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
I'm not attacking you, but didn't it become clear that if the vaunted conservative George Bush and his good conservative buddies John McCain and Lindsey Graham fought a pitched battle with the American people to NOT end illegal immigration and evict the criminals that maybe, just maybe, they did not give a damn about the real defense of America as opposed to endless wars overseas with a bunch of damn hillbilly goatherders in Ashcanistan/etc.??
Sure. The only time I've defended RINOs was in the last general election and what we've gotten is far worse than anything McCain would have delivered. As long as Americans continue to not vote in the primaries, remain political rubes,then expect Heysus to beam them up out of this mess, we're doomed. Others will do their thinking, and others will chose their candidates.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
Do you have a realistic expectation that Ron Paul will prevail over all the RINO's who've thrown their hat in the ring??
All I know is that I'm going to do everything I can to help Ron Paul win the nomination.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
Of course there is the other possibility, that a short attention span is the explanation for your inability to grasp the reality about the Rockefeller one party system (with two wings). The key issues about which you alone remain stubbornly clueless are those that the shadow govt permits no disagreement or departure from the dogma. And even in five-way presidential debates (with candidates that span the spectrum, all the way from "Israel should get all they ask for" to "Israel should get more than they ask for") those key issues are readily apparent: No candidate (Ron Paul being the exception) has ever heard of the federal reserve system having a negative impact on America, and no candidate will dare approach the sacred jewel of manna for Israel from US taxpayers. No siree, candidates who are oceans apart on how to tax, spend, legislate and rule over American subjects are in total lockstep in their agreement that Israel should run its affairs with no interference or even unsolicited opinions from us. (If a politician blunders and thoughtlessly offers a suggestion such as "compromise with the Palestinians" then we should immediately double our next shipment of white phosphorus free of charge, not only to make amends for his or her insensitivity but to send a message to any Palestinian who may have been momentarily inspired by the blunder- and nothing speaks louder to this than a skinless child) If our budget is tight then we can always find the munny by cutting the budget for maintenance and repairs of bridges and dams, or hardened HUMVEES and body armor for Americans who serve as Israeli shock troops, bullet catchers and backstops for steel splinters from IEDs. It's a divine privilege to support Israeli intrigue including the bribery of our congress or payouts to families of Americans they murder (i.e. USS Liberty survivors) or a pension and comfy digs for Jay Pollard when he is finally released from the clutches of vicious anti-Semites over at justice... Your beloved GOP supports this completely and without equivocation, but Ron Paul doesn't. And, as long as Germany is thrilled to offer the Israelis those brown water subs (intended to operate in the littorals and equipped with special ops launch and retrieval hatches so that Israel can continue their piracy with plausible deniability) then we should be ecstatic that we can supply them with nuclear tipped Tomahawks. (at wholesale prices-3 bux each-take it out of our next military aid check) So, regarding your explanation that "Ron Paul is a Republican" whenever you feel the urge to dampen criticism of the worthless blowjobbers in the GOP, well, I'm not convinced. Explain it some more.
I didn't waste my time reading your drool....But "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
The GOP's backroom cronies selected McCain for the same reason they selected Bob Dole in '96-they intended to lose. Or do you actually believe that the rank and file of the GOP searched high and low and voted for the best qualified candidate in the entire US? I actually had good Republicans-salt of the Earth Americans try to explain why Dole was the better candidate to which I could only reply, "Instead of selling me on Dole why don't you run someone I like and I'll vote for him?" (Their reply was the same as that from Kang and Kodos on The Simpsons. "What are you going to do, vote 3rd party? GO AHEAD, THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY! HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!") And, only the silliest of "big govt conservatives" (?) actually defended John McCain then or try to lionize his never-meant-to-be-presidency now. The answer was obvious-the rank and file of the GOP have absolutely no say in who gets the nomination. So why do you blame Obama for the current state of affairs when the elections ('96 and '08) were the Republicans' to lose? Or, are we really supposed to believe that there is no such thing as a qualified AND charismatic Republican that will fit into one blue suit? And BTW, what bill has become law that didn't require bipartisan support? If the Pubs had voted against every POS bill introduced then none would have become law. Why do you blame Obama and not your beloved Republican Party who could have stopped them all dead by withholding the votes needed for passage? "I hear the cottonwoods whisperin' above, Flintlock, Flintlock, Flintlock's in love...." The ole hooty-owl hooty-hoos to the dove, "....Flintlock, Flintlock, Flintlock's in love....". Does my lover feel What I feel When he comes near? My heart beats so joyfully, You'd think that he could hear. Wish I knew if he knew What I'm dreamin' of ....Flintlock, Flintlock, Flintlock's in love....."
Actually, I wonder if you'd mind if I point out that you're a a goddamned liar? You cannot defend your sophomoric politics and you're scared white to even try.
Also, I don't click on crutch links relied on by cripples. If you can't write your own replies then why are you humping the legs of your betters? You should be taking drink orders for those who rightly or wrongly, for better or worse have the skills to express and defend their views. You seem to select adversaries that you feel you can match and you run like a scalded DAWG from the rest.
Yawn.........I didn't read your drool
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
The Republican jackasses in the Senate, ALL of them, could have pulled a Ted Kennedy and put endless "holds" on Elena "Jew" Kagan and Sonia "La Raza" Sotomayor and stopped their nominations. Not one of them had the balls to do it.
So vote for democrats.......4 more years of OBomber and Pelosi should make you happy.....right?
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
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"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
I'll vote for Ron Paul until the jews silence him, then I'll let the rest of America shoot themselves in their own feet with kosher 'ballots'.
Now yer talkin.
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Stalin
They couldn't stand being called racist anti-Szxhemietees! And then The Lobby would release the sex tapes featuring the senators with the Monicas and Chandras, or fondling little boys' asses. For some reason the more taboo it is the more Republicans enjoy it.
Both Israel and the GOP should be made to take a MEANS TEST before they receive another dollar from American taxpayers. It'll be a cold day in hell before they could show that they need our money. If the GOP is so hard up, let them collect pop bottles or copper wire from hydro stations.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
Okay but let me bounce one off for your consideration. Nader has suggested that money is the curse of politics and that seems to be true. He suggested that all campaigns should be publicly funded and outside money banned. Assuming a candidate has met the required support criteria (so that we don't have 500,000 candidates for prez every election) isn't the problem of undue influence serious enough to warrant a revamping of the current pay to play system that obviously favors corporations over people? The SCOTUS has now decreed that "corporations have rights" except the "right" to go to jail for crimes committed by their boards of directors. The result is that corporations have now been elevated above people, and I'm not happy about that. If there's another solution other than Nader's I'd be interested. But, what? PACs and politicians cannot police themselves and when a corporation that provided paperless voting machines "pledged its support to a George Bush victory", and for the first time exit polling data didn't agree with the final tally, well, need I write more?
Yes, I suggest a benign dictatorship, if you can find one. I hear Libya has one to spare at the moment.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
Good post HD.
So, in your world those are the only possible choices? You can't even picture a fair system where corporations don't run amok?
Thanks tom.
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#2. To: tom007 (#0)
#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)
They wouldn't need that much security if they actually operated for the good of the Republic.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#4. To: Ada (#2)
Political parties are not government entities and should not be subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
#5. To: Ada (#2)
Political parties are not government entities and should not be subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#6. To: tom007 (#0)
#7. To: Original_Intent (#1)
"They wouldn't need that much security if they actually operated for the good of the Republic."
#8. To: ratcat (#6)
Republicans cannot buy enough security in 2012.
#9. To: tom007, *libertarians* (#0)
#10. To: Ferret, Original_Intent (#7)
"They wouldn't need that much security if they actually operated for the good of the Republic."
#11. To: Flintlock (#8)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: X-15 (#11)
I don't think Ron or Rand Paul will even be allowed to use the kitchen entrance from the alley at the GOP convention next year.
#13. To: Flintlock, Ferret (#10)
Contributions Bribes.
#14. To: Flintlock (#10)
#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)
#16. To: Ferret, Flintlock (#15)
I'm not happy with either party as well.
#17. To: Flintlock, ratcat (#8)
Ron Paul is a Republican, you got a problem with him?
#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)
#19. To: Flintlock (#18)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#20. To: X-15 (#19)
George Bush and his good conservative buddies John McCain and Lindsey Graham fought a pitched battle with the American people to NOT end illegal immigration and evict the criminals
#21. To: Flintlock (#20)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#22. To: X-15 (#21)
Do you have a realistic expectation that Ron Paul will prevail over all the RINO's who've thrown their hat in the ring??
#23. To: Flintlock, ratcat (#18)
Yawn.....
#24. To: HOUNDDAWG (#23)
#25. To: Flintlock, X-15 (#20)
I want to thank George Bush for putting me into the White House.
Also, like to give a nod to John McCain, Dick Cheney, and the GOP talking heads in DC for utterly abandoning their Conservative Base . . .
#26. To: Flintlock (#20)
Sure. The only time I've defended RINOs was in the last general election and what we've gotten is far worse than anything McCain would have delivered.
#27. To: Flintlock (#24)
I didn't waste my time reading your drool....But
#28. To: Flintlock (#24)
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#28)
#30. To: HOUNDDAWG, Flintlock (#26)
(Edited)
If the Pubs had voted against every POS bill introduced then none would have become law. Why do you blame Obama and not your beloved Republican Party who could have stopped them all dead by withholding the votes needed for passage?
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#31. To: X-15 (#30)
(Edited)
#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#28)
#33. To: Flintlock (#31)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#34. To: X-15 (#33)
I'll vote for Ron Paul
#35. To: X-15 (#30)
The Republican jackasses in the Senate, ALL of them, could have pulled a Ted Kennedy and put endless "holds" on Elena "Jew" Kagan and Sonia "La Raza" Sotomayor and stopped their nominations. Not one of them had the balls to do it.
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#23)
no candidate will dare approach the sacred jewel of manna for Israel from US taxpayers.
#37. To: angK (#36)
Both Israel and the GOP should be made to take a MEANS TEST before they receive another dollar from American taxpayers. It'll be a cold day in hell before they could show that they need our money. If the GOP is so hard up, let them collect pop bottles or copper wire from hydro stations.
#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
isn't the problem of undue influence serious enough to warrant a revamping of the current pay to play system that obviously favors corporations over people?
#39. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#40. To: angK (#38)
Yes, I suggest a benign dictatorship, if you can find one. I hear Libya has one to spare at the moment.
#41. To: tom007 (#39)
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