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Title: NATO helicopter crashes in Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. troops
Source: reuters.com
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011 ... violence-idUSTRE7750UW20110806
Published: Aug 6, 2011
Author: Michelle Nichols
Post Date: 2011-08-06 07:06:38 by Ferret
Keywords: None
Views: 2208
Comments: 134

(Reuters) - A NATO helicopter crashed in central Afghanistan overnight killing 31 U.S. soldiers and 7 Afghan troops, the Afghan president said on Saturday, a devastating death toll and easily the worst single incident for foreign troops in 10 years of war.

A brief statement from the presidential palace said the helicopter had crashed in central Maidan Wardak province, just to the west of the capital, Kabul, and identified the Americans as special forces troops.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai "shared his deep sorrow and sadness" with U.S. counterpart Barack Obama and the families of the U.S. and Afghan victims, the statement said.

The Taliban claimed to have shot down the troop-carrying Chinook helicopter during a firefight and killed 38 soldiers. The Islamist group also said in a statement that eight insurgents had been killed in torrid fighting.

The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) confirmed a helicopter had crashed but gave no further details.

The high casualties come only two weeks after the start of a gradual process of handing security responsibility from foreign forces to Afghan troops and police, and at a time of growing unease about the increasingly unpopular and costly war.

That process is due to end with all foreign combat troops leaving Afghanistan by the end of 2014, but some U.S. lawmakers have already questioned whether that handover is fast enough.

Incidents with heavy death tolls are sure to raise even more questions about the transition process and how much longer foreign troops should stay.

The crash was by far the worst incident of the war for foreign troops and easily surpassed the worst incidents of battlefield losses.

In April 2005, another CH-47 Chinook helicopter crashed, killing 15 U.S. servicemen and three civilian contractors. Another Chinook crash in June the same year killed 17 U.S. troops.

WORRYING

U.S. and other NATO commanders have claimed success in reversing the momentum of a growing insurgency in the Taliban heartland in the south, although insurgents have shown a worrying ability to adapt their tactics and mount major attacks in other areas.

Those gains, however, have come at a price, with 711 foreign troops killed in Afghanistan in 2010, easily the deadliest year of the war for all concerned since the Taliban were toppled by U.S.-backed foreign troops in late 2001.

The crash in Maidan Wardak means that at least 374 foreign troops have been killed so far in 2011, more than two-thirds of them American, according to independent monitor www.icasualties.com and figures kept by Reuters.

Neither ISAF nor the U.S. military in Afghanistan confirmed whether there had been any casualties in the crash despite repeated telephone calls, much less any nationalities that might have been involved.

The majority of foreign troops in Wardak, which comes under ISAF's eastern regional command, are American.

Despite the alarming military toll, ordinary Afghan civilians have continued to bear the brunt of the war, with civilian casualties also hitting record levels in the first six months of this year, according to U.N. figures.

Earlier on Saturday, Afghan police said a NATO air strike killed eight civilians in southern Helmand province on Friday.

ISAF confirmed there had been an air strike in Helmand's Nad Ali district and said it was investigating whether civilians had been present at the time.

Civilian casualties caused by foreign troops hunting Taliban fighters and other insurgents have long been a major source of friction between Kabul and its Western backers.

Nad Ali district police chief Shidi Khan said the air strike was called in after insurgents attacked ISAF troops in the area.

The victims of Friday's air strike in Helmand were members of a family that had fled fighting in neighboring Uruzgan province, police said.

ISAF said the civilians may have been held hostage by the insurgents.

The most contentious of the first seven areas to be handed over was the Helmand provincial capital of Lashkar Gah.

Helmand province has been the site of some of the most vicious fighting of the war. Far more foreign troops have died there than in any other province and there are still several Helmand districts dominated by the Taliban.

In the past month, insurgents have carried out a string of destabilizing assassinations of high-profile southern leaders, including president Karzai's half brother, and several large attacks killing police and civilians.

A U.N. report last month said 1,462 civilians were killed in conflict-related incidents in the first six months of 2011, up 15 percent on the first half of 2010. It blamed insurgents for 80 percent of those deaths.

(Additional reporting by Mustafa Andalib in GHAZNI and Mirwais Harooni and Haseeb Sadat in KABUL; Editing by Paul Tait and Ron Popeski)

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#3. To: Ferret (#0)

Seems 25 of them were Seals.

tom007  posted on  2011-08-06   10:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tom007 (#3)

Seems 25 of them were Seals.

Damn, just damn. The SEAL's are about the only servicemen left that I have total respect for just because they ARE the best on the planet. This is a HUGE percentage of the total amount of SEAL's.

I wonder if the jews in Israel give a flying-fuck that we sacrificed them upon their insane altar of Zionism??

I hope that this plants some seeds of doubt within the Navy and causes the chiefs to openly question our involvement "over there".

X-15  posted on  2011-08-06   12:18:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: X-15 (#22)

SEALS

Were these the guys who killed OBL, and some of his assorted family members?

If yes, why?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-08-06   12:27:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Were these the guys who killed OBL, and some of his assorted family members?

If yes, why?

Seems to me to be possible. One of the crew was a dog, prolly a very special dog, similar to the one used in the OBL op.

tom007  posted on  2011-08-06   15:57:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: tom007 (#57)

Thanks, tom.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-08-07   12:58:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

Official word is that they were not the OBL team, but were Team Six seals.

tom007  posted on  2011-08-07   13:02:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: tom007 (#89)

And the "offishul" word is to be granted credibility why?

This is the same government that told us they whacked Osama Bin Dead Ten Years this year?

That aircraft fuel can melt steel?

There is no credible confirmation one way or another, but the psychotic murderers running our government are not beyond whacking witnesses who might have some "inconvenient truths".

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-07   13:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#93. To: Original_Intent (#90)

And the "offishul" word is to be granted credibility why?

Of course, the official credibility is just about zero.

tom007  posted on  2011-08-07 14:12:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Original_Intent, tom007 (#90)

This is the same government that told us they whacked Osama Bin Dead Ten Years this year?

That aircraft fuel can melt steel?

There is no credible confirmation one way or another, but the psychotic murderers running our government are not beyond whacking witnesses who might have some "inconvenient truths".

Obama pays respects, questions remain in Afghan crash | Reuters

By Jeff Mason

DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Delaware | Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:04pm EDT

Three days after Taliban militants shot down a Chinook helicopter, killing all 38 people on board, many questions remain -- including whether protocol was followed as elite U.S. forces were sent to help comrades in a firefight.

The deaths have resonated in the United States because of the sheer number of casualties and because many of them came from the same Navy SEAL unit that killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. None of the dead men were involved in that raid in Pakistan in early May.

While the number of casualties was a stark reminder of the costs of the Afghan war -- it was the single deadliest incident of the 10-year conflict -- the Pentagon strictly barred reporters from witnessing the ceremony.

Because of the catastrophic nature of the crash, the military has been unable to individually identify the remains of the victims, including those of Afghans. Pentagon officials said that meant U.S. military families could not give their consent to reporters to cover the repatriations, consent that is required under U.S. government policy.

Obama and top military officials joined families in witnessing what the Pentagon called the "dignified transfer" of remains at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, home of the largest U.S. military mortuary.

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