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Title: Video Outrage: Utah Police Kill Marijuana Smoker in Own Home
Source: OpposingViews
URL Source: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/vide ... l-marijuana-smoker-in-own-home
Published: Aug 18, 2011
Author: NORML
Post Date: 2011-08-18 15:50:59 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 296
Comments: 18

Huffington Post reports it as “Police Kill Man In Drug Raid Gone Wrong“. So what’s the “gone wrong” part?

The police had a no-knock warrant (though they forgot to bring it) to search for drugs. Busting down a citizen’s door quickly, loudly, and with overwhelming force is the standard. Sure, the guy they were looking for was a roommate who had already moved out (and they knew it), but it is so vitally important that we find and imprison people smoking weed at home that even a hastily-planned no-knock midnight raid without warrant paperwork is preferable to allowing one more joint to be smoked by a middle aged man in his own home. (Warning: Video is graphic in nature. Story continues after video.)

It is standard operating procedure to send the “Weber-Morgan County Narcotics Strike Force” in all-black full body armor, toting automatic weapons under the cover of night. If police are confronted by someone wielding arms, like, say, an average cannabis consumer with a former drug dealing roommate who grabs a golf club to defend himself when he’s suddenly awakened in the dead of night by armored ninjas toting machine guns, they are legally allowed to discharge their firearm to defend themselves and neutralize the suspect.

When you break down a man’s door in the middle of the night with guns drawn, somebody dying isn’t an unexpected outcome. This is a drug raid gone right. We send stormtroopers into American homes 100-150 times per day on the premise that finding their drugs justifies risking their lives.

Most of the time nobody dies (except the dog) and the few that are killed that you read about are the ones that shock everybody because they didn’t have large amounts of drugs or a firearm on them at the time. Yeah, mistakes were made, but you’ve got to expect some collateral damage in a War on Drugs, right?

Note how many times you read about a raid where “multiple firearms” are found and that is used to justify the excessive force of the raid. How many times do they tell you those multiple firearms are a collection of hunting weapons or sporting arms or handguns for self defense? How about when a “felony amount” of drugs are found, so they must be drug dealers! Have you ever looked at what constitutes a felony level of drugs in some states? It’s 3/4 of an ounce in Florida. It’s an ounce in Oregon (yes, hippie dippie, medical marijuana-lovin’, first-to-decrim Oregon!)

Cannabis is not cocaine. It’s not like we need to burst in quickly before the suspect flushes the evidence. If he’s got any amount large enough for you to think he’s a big time dealer invested in it enough to kill a cop, it’s more than can be flushed, burned, or hidden. And if we’ve been dipping into the stash, unlike cocaine we’re not going to go into some lunatic Tony Montana rage and spray cops with an Uzi. Damn, knock on the door and tell us you’re Domino’s and we’re likely to just let you in!

I know legalization might take awhile. Can we at least stop executing people in their homes over pot?

Huffington Post reports it as “Police Kill Man In Drug Raid Gone Wrong“.


Poster Comment:

They MURDERED that man no matter what the JBT suckups and water carriers say.

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Amen.

God, I hate today's cops.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-08-18   16:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-18   16:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

I feel much safer now.

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tom007  posted on  2011-08-18   16:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

God Damn that was disturbing...

That was no raid gone wrong.

That was a military style execution.

titorite  posted on  2011-08-18   16:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

Utah should get sum balls and do like the Mexicans, burn down the Policia station and hang the Pigs from a bridge. Peace.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-08-18   17:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#1)

They don't exactly endear themselves to people when they assassinate someone for smoking a little weed, do they?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   18:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

These filthy swine would justify random genocide.

Sure seems like it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   18:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#3)

I feel much safer now.

Yeah, it is always good when they waste another one of those terrible pot smokers. I am sure they had a big celebration.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   18:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: titorite (#4)

That was no raid gone wrong.

That was a military style execution.

Exactly. They went in with the intention of murdering the man.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   18:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lysander_Spooner (#5)

Utah should get sum balls and do like the Mexicans, burn down the Policia station and hang the Pigs from a bridge. Peace.

That would be one way to solve a vexing problem.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   18:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-18   19:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-18   19:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach (#9)

Exactly. They went in with the intention of murdering the man.

Makes one wonder if the purps should be removed from the gene pool.

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2011-08-18   19:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Give Me Liberty (#13)

Makes one wonder if the purps should be removed from the gene pool.

There is no question that they should be.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-18   19:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach, LEAP, 4 (#6)

This was pre-meditated Murder-one.

Book'em Dano.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-08-18   19:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

They MURDERED that man no matter what the JBT suckups and water carriers say.

50 years ago that cop would have been charged with murder one. The idiot who OK'd the "raid" would also have been raked over the coals, figuratively at least.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-08-18   20:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#16)

50 years ago that cop would have been charged with murder one. The idiot who OK'd the "raid" would also have been raked over the coals, figuratively at least.

No doubt about that. Less than 50 years ago the little town where I live had three cops and none of them ever went out looking for people to beat down. Now I don't even know how many we have--and it's still a little town--and they have bought so many cop cars that they park "spares" around here and there with dead dummies in them (as opposed to the live dummies you might usually encounter) to make some kind of show I guess. It would tickle me if someone stole their dead dummies and the wheels and tires off their "spares" and left them sitting on blocks. No reason in the world for a little town this size to have as many cops and cop cars as we have.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-19   1:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

From your word to Gods ear.Amen

titorite  posted on  2011-08-19   1:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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