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Title: I Guess You Had To Be There
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Published: Aug 20, 2011
Author: Lorrie Morgan
Post Date: 2011-08-20 21:04:51 by James Deffenbach
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-08-21   0:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

"I Guess You Had To Be There" to understand why Keith Whitley drank himself to death.

I always suspected that they kept their unhappiness a secret the way they do in Nashville unless the cops are called along with the tow truck to pull George Jones' car out of the bedroom.

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"Morgan is known for her turbulent personal life—she told Larry King in a July 2004 interview that "drama is something that lets you know you're still alive."[2]

She has a daughter, Morgan, from her first marriage to Ron Gaddis, a former bass player in George Jones' band; they were married for only a brief time from 1979 to 1980. She has a son, Jesse Keith Whitley (b. 1987) with her second husband, Keith Whitley. That marriage lasted from 1986 until his death in 1989. After that marriage, she had a lengthy involvement with Dallas Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman. In 1991, she married a one-time bus driver for Clint Black named Brad Thompson; they divorced in 1993.

Morgan was also romantically linked from 1994 to 1996 with Fred Thompson, the politician/actor. In her autobiography Forever Yours, Faithfully: My Love Story, Morgan describes their relationship:

"It was great to go out with an older man [Thompson] who was very successful on his own. . . . For a while, I enjoyed my first exposure to politics. It was interesting to hear about political conversations, and people even began talking about Fred as a potential president. . . . I put myself to the task of being a great companion to a stimulating and important man, and as a result I became boring. . . . I had to stop and think about the political implications of everything before I uttered a word in public. . . . For a while, I wanted to marry Fred, but I knew he could not accept me as I am."[3]

In 1996 Morgan married Jon Randall, a singer/songwriter now credited with writing the 2004 Brad Paisley/Alison Krauss hit "Whiskey Lullaby"; they divorced three years later in 1999. She married her fifth husband, singer Sammy Kershaw, on September 29, 2001. That marriage lasted six years. Citing irreconcilable differences, she filed for divorce on October 23, 2007.[4]

In October 2008, Morgan filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, citing up to $10 million in liabilities while listing her own assets as valued between $500,000 and $1 million.[5]

In 2010 Morgan will perform on Broadway in the show Pure Country. She will play Lula, the manager of the lead character Dusty, played by fellow country artist Joe Nichols.

On September 15, 2010, Morgan married her sixth husband, Randy White, in a beach side ceremony."

Poor Keith was just a simply country boy and I suspect that Lorrie was why he couldn't whip his demon.

"I know you loved him A long time ago

Even now in my arms You still want him I know

But darling this time Let your memories die

When you hold me tonight Don't close your eyes

Don't close your eyes Let it be me

Don't pretend it's him In some fantasy

Darling just once Let yesterday go

You'll find more love Than you've ever known

Just hold me tight When you love me tonight

And don't close your eyes"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-21   2:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

I Guess You Had To Be There

I think I recall that she was engaged to Troy Aikman of Dallas Cowboys fame at one time.

CadetD  posted on  2011-08-21   2:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#2)

good grief, this Morgan broad, whoever she is, never heard of her or most of her 'husbands', led one f'd up life, that is for sure. eegads! Just reading over her bio reveals she is a tormented soul. only a torured tormented person would do all that.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-08-21   12:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HOUNDDAWG (#2)

Yes, she has led what one might politely call an "interesting life," hasn't she? Most people figure out before the fifth marriage that something about that just ain't workin' out for 'em.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-21   12:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CadetD (#3)

I think I recall that she was engaged to Troy Aikman of Dallas Cowboys fame at one time.

Apparently she has been engaged and/or had some attachment to a good many guys.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-21   12:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG (#2)

Lorrie Morgan was just competing with Tanya Tucker to see which one could wreck more people and live to tell about it. In the end, the Nashville jews behind the scenes got the last laugh and all the money.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-08-21   12:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HOUNDDAWG (#2)

Thanks for all the information - sad stuff.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-08-21   12:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#4) (Edited)

good grief, this Morgan broad, whoever she is, never heard of her or most of her 'husbands', led one f'd up life, that is for sure. eegads! Just reading over her bio reveals she is a tormented soul. only a torured tormented person would do all that.

I didn't know who she or Keith Whitley was until I took a full time gig as a country lead guitarist (first time ever in the three chord end of the biz) back around 1996 I guess. (The old joke is "a plumber is an electrician with his brains blown out" and that was exactly how I felt. A skilled pro with rock-jazz chops and the only challenges for me were the solos played by great studio session players.)

As soon as I watched her sing (on CMT and VH1 Country) she left me cold, and her history (which you and I both just learned) validated what I've felt since I discovered her. All I knew was that she was Keith Whitley's surviving spouse and his death was the best thing that ever happened to her career. I watched her vids and read between the lines and they were intended to elicit sympathy but they had the opposite effect. But some of the "feller musicians I visited in trailers set way back off the road" and their barefoot hillbilly wives fell for it hook, line and sinker. I gotta give credit where its due. Them Nashtown producers sure know their targeted dimmergraffic.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-23   2:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#5)

Yes, she has led what one might politely call an "interesting life," hasn't she? Most people figure out before the fifth marriage that something about that just ain't workin' out for 'em.

Unlike women (and men) who've loved and lost she showed no signs of extreme suffering, and the music videos of her "broke country heart" were unconvincing.

I can only imagine what Keith felt when he saw her so well kept and using her wiles to further her career as he was struggling with the Devil's elixir. My read was that a truly loving woman may have saved him, but that wasn't her. Her busy promo schedule kept her moving and her husband wouldn't ask her to do what she should have done without being asked. (there's no movie of the week of her superhuman struggle to save her man, and if it was true we'd have seen it on TV by now)

I have no way of validating this suspicion mind you, but I believe that Keith knew he was going to die alone and that his narcissist ol' lady was prepared for that eventuality, including laying in a supply of mascara that wouldn't run as the crocodile tears were shed.

And, as the saying goes, she probably picked out one of her husbands at the funeral. Perhaps they were all in attendance.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-23   2:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#7) (Edited)

Lorrie Morgan was just competing with Tanya Tucker to see which one could wreck more people and live to tell about it. In the end, the Nashville jews behind the scenes got the last laugh and all the money.

When SONY Music opened a Nashville studio and an A&R division that was the beginning of the end.

As we can see country is now the new pop (which in a word SUX) and as you and I are writing about it they're probably grooming the "Bruce Springsteen of country music", Cowboy Cohen And The Moneychangers or perhaps Rebbe Merle and The Front Porch Tay-Sachs Band.

After thought: in 2005 the CMA Awards were held in New York City and everyone in attendance that was seen on camera was wearing an AIDS ribbon. I'm betting that some artists objected because they saw it as an endorsement of the lifestyle "...and their folks and fans back home wouldn't understand,", but it was explained to them that they either wore the damned thing or they were off the bill.

Not one artist commented on it after, either. To do so would be the end of their careers in Nashville, and New York and Los Angeles wouldn't shelter them the way they do other rogue artists (or even outed gays like k.d. lang or Chely Wright who married her non Christian partner, Lauren Blitzer last Saturday) who have problems with Nashville formula country.

Simply put, Alan Jackson looked goddam ridiculous in a tux, a Stetson and a "Solidarity with HIV victims" ribbon. He was clearly uncomfortable and I don't think it was because of the Armani tux.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-23   3:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#8)

Indeed it is and you're welcome.

For some reason this story affects me like no other. Nashville protects the images of country artists so we never see drug raids and seldom see wife beating stories. (Sara Evans and Shania both had terrible stories to tell and I only learned about them because those gals wanted them out there.)

There was very little reported about Keith and Lorrie and I'm guessing that they were protecting the product then and now because the truth about her icy heart would have derailed her career.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-23   3:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

After thought: in 2005 the CMA Awards were held in New York City and everyone in attendance that was seen on camera was wearing an AIDS ribbon. I'm betting that some artists objected because they saw it as an endorsement of the lifestyle "...and their folks and fans back home wouldn't understand,", but it was explained to them that they either wore the damned thing or they were off the bill.

If enough of them had said "If that's the case, I'm out, you can do your show without me" they would have backed off that stupid $#it and let it be voluntary. Sounds like the problem might have been lack of conviction and spine.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-23   10:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#13)

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-08-23   10:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#14)

Lots of pretty scenery in that one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-08-23   10:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#13) (Edited)

If enough of them had said "If that's the case, I'm out, you can do your show without me" they would have backed off that stupid $#it and let it be voluntary. Sounds like the problem might have been lack of conviction and spine.

Right you are my friend.

Unfortunately, very few of those who had the dream of going to Nashville and becoming "trailerhold names" would sacrifice all on a principle, particularly an issue that could get one labeled as a "homo hatin' country bigot."

The notable exception was Townes Van Zandt who apparently had severe mental problems. He was tormented by demons that others could not see, and all that others wanted enough to "make a pact with Ol' Legba", he would not even take.

He had the potential to replace Vince Gill as The High Priest Of Country Music but his life, career and fate inspired no one to follow in his footsteps.

Regarding the NYC CMA Award Show, those on top and those whose stars were rising weren't about to spit in the eyes of the Nashville establishment, and whatever deals they made with Izzie the Heeb were above the pay grades of those who were pinned with the compulsory HIV sympathy badge.

Make no mistake-Nashville country music has a fearsome redneck mafia complete with kneecap removers and skull crushers, and those who wish to leave Nashville to become the darling of the Hollywood party scene (like country punk pioneer Dwight Yoakam) or New York (like Chely Wright and Tift Merritt) or a forgotten anonymity had best do it quietly and respectfully.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-23   15:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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