How far would an act entitled "The Talmud is BS" go?
The first five books of the O.T. IS THE TALMUD, which was the oral law of the Jews. There was many a slip between tongue and lip I suspect, as oral law passed into the first five written books of the O.T.
The Talmud is not a book in itself- it is a compilation of the Mishnah (oral law) and the gemorrah (rabbinical commentaries). Now, another name for the Mishnah is the Torah she 'b'peh- the Torah handed down by mouth, and its tranmsmission is recorded as followed in Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) also known in the Mishnah as meschta Avot:
Forgive me or praise me for confusing the two. I am not a Jew. It appears from the above that the Torah is the oral tradition and the Talmud is the written compilation of the oral law, which became the first five books of the O.T.
The fact that The Talmud is written record of the traditions of men (Rabbis) that does not in any way come from God, is the very point that I was making in my comment.
I knew exactly what I was commenting about and you have only clarified the point that the O.T. is the written record of the oral laws of the Jews, and does not in any way come from God.
If you don't like the message, don't insult the messenger.
It appears from the above that the Torah is the oral tradition and the Talmud is the written compilation of the oral law, which became the first five books of the O.T.
Wrong again.
The Torah comes directly from the prophets and was written by them as instructed by God almighty, nothing oral about it other than God inspiring them what to write.
The Talmud on the other hand comes from the oral comments from Rabbis that was passed down generation to generation and became the traditions of men which was finally written down as the Talmud. The Talmud in no way comes from God while the Torah comes directly from God.
The fact that The Talmud is written record of the traditions of men (Rabbis) that does not in any way come from God, is the very point that I was making in my comment.
I knew exactly what I was commenting about and you have only clarified the point that the O.T. is the written record of the oral laws of the Jews, and does not in any way come from God.
I agree with you, angK, the Torah is the the first five books of the O.T. and the Talmud is not nor has ever been proclaimed to be a holy text (aka "word of God), it is rabbinical (Jewish) law, and should not be conflated with biblical texts.
As a sidenote, I think a good part of it comes from the Code of Hammurabi, which is why it is often called the Babylonian Talmud.