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Title: Penn and Teller - The bible is bullshit
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy7ScuVhDvs&feature=player_embedded
Published: Nov 05, 2007
Author: Penn and Teller
Post Date: 2011-08-28 22:14:51 by Flintlock
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Views: 1287
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#16. To: Flintlock (#0)

Aren't these a couple of Jews?

How far would an act entitled "The Talmud is BS" go?

RickyJ  posted on  2011-08-29   3:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: RickyJ (#16)

How far would an act entitled "The Talmud is BS" go?

The first five books of the O.T. IS THE TALMUD, which was the oral law of the Jews. There was many a slip between tongue and lip I suspect, as oral law passed into the first five written books of the O.T.

angK  posted on  2011-08-29   17:26:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: angK (#55)

The first five books of the O.T. IS THE TALMUD

No it isn't. The first five books of the Old Testament is the Torah.

The Talmud is written record of the traditions of men (Rabbis) that does not in any way come from God.

It would be helpful if you knew what you were commenting about before making a comment.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-08-29   17:35:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: RickyJ (#56)

The Talmud is not a book in itself- it is a compilation of the Mishnah (oral law) and the gemorrah (rabbinical commentaries). Now, another name for the Mishnah is the Torah she 'b'peh- the Torah handed down by mouth, and its tranmsmission is recorded as followed in Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) also known in the Mishnah as meschta Avot:

Forgive me or praise me for confusing the two. I am not a Jew. It appears from the above that the Torah is the oral tradition and the Talmud is the written compilation of the oral law, which became the first five books of the O.T.

The fact that The Talmud is written record of the traditions of men (Rabbis) that does not in any way come from God, is the very point that I was making in my comment.

I knew exactly what I was commenting about and you have only clarified the point that the O.T. is the written record of the oral laws of the Jews, and does not in any way come from God.

If you don't like the message, don't insult the messenger.

angK  posted on  2011-08-29   18:27:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: angK, Ricky J (#59)

The fact that The Talmud is written record of the traditions of men (Rabbis) that does not in any way come from God, is the very point that I was making in my comment.

I knew exactly what I was commenting about and you have only clarified the point that the O.T. is the written record of the oral laws of the Jews, and does not in any way come from God.

I agree with you, angK, the Torah is the the first five books of the O.T. and the Talmud is not nor has ever been proclaimed to be a holy text (aka "word of God), it is rabbinical (Jewish) law, and should not be conflated with biblical texts.

As a sidenote, I think a good part of it comes from the Code of Hammurabi, which is why it is often called the Babylonian Talmud.

Dakmar  posted on  2011-08-29   20:35:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Dakmar (#71)

As a sidenote, I think a good part of it comes from the Code of Hammurabi, which is why it is often called the Babylonian Talmud.

More than that it was heavily influenced by the Egyptian and Babylonian Mystery Schools which are also at the root of Masonry and that group we call the Illuminati.

These are sacred beliefs about man's nature and existence which have been kept secreted and likely very distorted from their origins which seem to have viewed man as a spiritual being at the most basic level. However, the Babylonian Mystery school seems to have been conceived as a means of control - to enslave man. That knowledge and viewpoint has been handed down through the aeons via the various secret societies.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-29   21:02:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#72)

I think the masons got a bad rap, they were always the ones fighting the monarchs, the bankers, and the RCC.

I'm just not that spooked by Franklin, Jefferson, and Voltaire to be completely honest.

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