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Title: Should Atheists be monitored and registered like sex offenders?
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pastorstahl.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://pastorstahl.blogspot.com/201 ... ists-on-national-registry.html
Published: Aug 29, 2011
Author: dumbshit who only goes by his first name
Post Date: 2011-08-29 18:45:18 by Ferret
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Views: 860
Comments: 43
Brothers and Sisters , I have been seriously considering forming a ( Christian ) grassroots type of organization to be named "The Christian National Registry of Atheists" or something similar . I mean , think about it . There are already National Registrys for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK , skinheads , radical Islamists , etc.. This type of "National Registry" would merely be for information purposes . To inform the public of KNOWN ( i.e., self-admitted) atheists . For example , let's say you live in Colorado Springs , Colorado , you could simply scroll down ( from the I-Net site /Blog ) I would have , to the State of Colorado , and then when you see "Colorado Springs" , you will see the names of all the self-admitted atheist(s) who live there ( e.g., if an atheist's name happened to be "Phil Small" ) . The individual's physical address , and other known personal information would NOT be disclosed ( though , perhaps a photo could be ) . Now , many (especially the atheists ) , may ask "Why do this , what's the purpose ?" Duhhh , Mr. Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net - to INFORM the public ! I mean , in the City of Miramar , Florida , where I live , the population is approx. 109,000 . My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists ! Perhaps we may actually know some . In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism . Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh's , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be "feeding" Satan . Frankly , I don't see why anyone would oppose this idea - including the atheists themselves ( unless of course , they're actually ashamed of their atheist religion , and would prefer to stay in the 'closet.' ) . Anyway , my brothers and sisters , it's something I would like to get your input on , as well as any other ideas or suggestions you may have along these lines . As Christians ,we CAN make a difference if we network together in fellowship , as well as seek guidance and advice from the Holy Spirit . Until next time , may God bless and keep you all - Yours in Christ ; Pastor Mike
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#4. To: Shoonra (#2)
I have been a victim of innumerable conversion attempts by "People of the Book" of all stripes including a number of miseducated Salifist youth with whom I have also had discussions on flat Earth theory. I am always polite and firm and wish nothing more than to be left alone on the subject of religion. Any who believe that it is their right to supplement their arguments with coercion will find that I can also be not so polite. Force will be met with force if we should come to those crossroads.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. In some ways the idea appeals to me, a captive audience as it were. Send in the next batch of JW's, the last one had a nervous breakdown after about 10 minutes. I guess some people just don't like whiskey and death metal.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Kudos, I try to set a good example too, but when they pound on my door at 6am I get a little vindictive.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
& I like your term "freelance heathen." That's me and let me be.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. but I would not feel so all alone....
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Funny. What some people will do for a dollar.
Unless you're an atheist. In that case, go to hell. Go directly to Hell. Do not pass go, and do not collect $200.00.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
what GOD given rights do Atheists have?
hmmmm...wondering if his real name is Stone? ;)
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
Same as you. No?
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. one denying the existence of GOD must also deny the existence of GOD given rights.
But it's not your place to deny them to me.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. I did not and do not, you did that yourself.
I will hold you to that.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. sure, keep missing the point.
What a pant load.
The point is that you are enjoined from oppressing me for my beliefs, by your own code and by civil law. I find myself in an admittedly and necessarily hypocritical position in that while I clearly see that the degradation in religious sentiment in this country and in the West in general is collateral with the destruction of public morality an increase in corruption, I cannot subscribe to the scriptures that underpin that religion as the word of a Creator or even as a reliable historical document, whatever moral value might be found in its narratives, parables, allegories, prescriptions and proscriptions. I also believe that you are a fine fellow, as I believe that all the Christian posters on this forum to be really fine folks – possibly the best people that this country possesses. I know and have met many fine Christians in my time, but I never cease to be stunned at how readily these people can be persuaded to suit up and venture out in the most bloody and unchristian of causes when required to do so by their betters. That is as true of Christians today as it is of sixty generations of Europeans and Christians. The same is true of Muslims in my experience, who are more than more often than not good family people and solid citizens, but who also hold the most retrograde beliefs about history or the nature of the world we live in. Neither are they immune in many cases to the kinds of moral hypocrisies Christians are subject to. The long and short of it is that, in my estimation, Scripture is in this sense no defense to error. While Christianity in many ways produces good citizens in general, I have seen innumerable cases of Christians who injure their families, fellows and community who attend Bible study and go to church on Sunday. There is no magic in Scripture in that regard as far as I can see. Whether or not any writings provide the path to redemption or resurrection is purely speculative other worldliness for which I have yet to see corroboration. This is all that I have to say about religion on this forum. I really hate to speak against religion. It is not a good thing, but I felt that I had to speak my mind. You'll forgive me if I offend. None of this is meant in that sense.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. that is very well articulated..
Thanks, Christine, for a giving us a place to air our ruminations, whatever they may be. Yours, ever caught philosophically between a rock & a hard place, - r.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. it seems you think I am on-board with the register atheists crap, I'm not. my question is how can one claim GOD given rights and yet deny the existence of said GOD.
One need not be "religious" to believe in God. I would say there is no religion on Earth that truly understands God as the TRUE God actually exists. Men have assumed the ROLE of God by writing what THEY wish to be seen as "God's Word", but THEY are not God, and their WORDS are not the word of God either. It is THEIR words, not God's.
the question is this... if god doesnt exist, how can it give you rights?
By the term "God given rights", it is understood to mean that those are rights human beings are born with. You can debate all day and night what "God" is, but what it comes down to is that "God given rights" are those you are born with. Those rights include the right to self defense, and to be free to live your life and pursue happiness as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's right to do so. We have lost many of those "God given rights" over time. I doubt there was actually any time in history where people actually lived as free as they should.
if humans are born with rights, they dont need gods... is that what you're saying?
looks to me like you're eventually gonna get around to the radical jewish position...
Are you trying to say that mankind has no inate right to exist, to live life, nor to pursue happiness?
So you're trying to say only Jews should have rights?
In other words, I don't need ancient Jews telling me what is right and what is wrong.
atheist jews are in a pickle, arent they? they are willing to exploit their supposed 'choseness' as they demonstrate their belief in might makes right. the rubes will never catch on to the fact that the 'chosen' were chosen by an entity that, according to them, doesnt exist. good deal, if you can continue to get away with it.
yup
Well I think most of those who follow the bible believe that entity does exist. And I don't think athiests believe that the "chosen" truly are. "Chosen" by themselves perhaps, but not by any deity.
the big problem is this... god, whatever that is, will win in the long run, and if humans persist in inventing perverted gods that justify the destruction of the motherfucking planet... well, it must be god's will god could give a shit less.
I understand your position. I am not denying God. Many folks call these our Natural Rights, which include the right to self defense, and to be free to live your life and pursue happiness as long as you don't infringe on anyone else's right to do so, as you say.
when humans' "natural rights" run contrary to chosenness, the chosen are entitled to, for instance, destroy countries willy-nilly if those countries dont measure up to the chosen's standards of behavior. "benevolent global hegemony"... how many people have been killed, so far, by our judeo-christian benevolence? what kind of slimeball god are we obeying, here?
Yahwism in various shades and flavors. Yes, one has to seriously ask oneself whether more ill proceeds from it than good.
you should probably ask, instead of "oneself", libyans, iraqis, afghanistanis, pakistanis, and maybe even americans... especially in view of the fact that these wars are crippling america's ability to deal rationally with peak oil, global warming, and looters.
thank god we dont have to insist on justice in our lifetimes... nope, we can roll over and play dead and believe in the flavor-of-the-day religion (or flavor-of-the-millenium religion) and get justice after we die. good goddamned deal.
They are certainly at least two peas from the same pod. Needless to say, when I first saw this blog, he was the first goober I thought of.
Some people live to have opinions that guarantee most people will back away from them in disgust and horror. He lives to have meaningless opinions that will take him nowhere. Which just makes him an Internet sideshow attraction.
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#5. To: Ferret (#0)
Title: Should Atheists be monitored and registered like sex offenders?
#6. To: randge (#4)
I am always polite and firm and wish nothing more than to be left alone on the subject of religion.
#7. To: Dakmar (#6)
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"It's a absurd insinuation."
#8. To: randge (#7)
#9. To: Ferret (#0)
No Planes. Think about it. ... Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)... "To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle." ~ George Orwell... Israelis For 9/11 Truth
#10. To: Ferret (#0)
Until next time , may God bless and keep you all -
#11. To: Ferret (#0)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
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#13. To: Dakmar (#8)
#14. To: IRTorqued (#11)
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"It's a absurd insinuation."
#15. To: randge (#14)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#16. To: IRTorqued (#15)
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"It's a absurd insinuation."
#17. To: randge (#16)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#18. To: IRTorqued (#17)
I did not and do not
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"It's a absurd insinuation."
#19. To: randge (#18)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#20. To: Ferret (#0)
Yours in Christ ; Pastor Mike
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#21. To: IRTorqued (#19)
sure, keep missing the point
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#22. To: randge (#21)
#23. To: christine (#22)
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"It's a absurd insinuation."
#24. To: randge (#21)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#25. To: IRTorqued, randge (#24)
it seems you think I am on-board with the register atheists crap, I'm not. my question is how can one claim GOD given rights and yet deny the existence of said GOD.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#26. To: FormerLurker (#25)
#27. To: lead.and.lag (#26)
the question is this... if god doesnt exist, how can it give you rights?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)
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#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)
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:"we worship our jewishness, our status as 'god's chosen' is a convenient smokescreen to mindfuck the rubes (and ourselves), and we believe, given the evidence of the god's natural world, that might makes right."
#30. To: lead.and.lag (#28)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#31. To: lead.and.lag (#29)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: lead.and.lag (#28)
if humans are born with rights, they dont need gods...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: FormerLurker (#31)
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#34. To: FormerLurker (#32)
"In other words, I don't need ancient Jews telling me what is right and what is wrong."
#35. To: lead.and.lag (#33)
the rubes will never catch on to the fact that the 'chosen' were chosen by an entity that, according to them, doesnt exist.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#36. To: FormerLurker (#32)
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#37. To: IRTorqued (#24)
my question is how can one claim GOD given rights and yet deny the existence of said GOD
#38. To: randge (#37)
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Natural Rights
#39. To: lead.and.lag (#38)
what kind of slimeball god are we obeying, here?
#40. To: randge (#39)
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one has to seriously ask oneself whether more ill proceeds from it than good.
#41. To: randge (#39)
#42. To: christine (#12)
"hmmmm...wondering if his real name is Stone?"
#43. To: tom007 (#20)
"What a pant load."
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