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Title: 9/11 and the Orwellian Redefinition of "Conspiracy Theory"
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Published: Aug 30, 2011
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2011-08-30 07:49:33 by wudidiz
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While we were not watching, conspiracy theory has undergone Orwellian redefinition.

A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy.  Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.  

For example, online news broadcasts of RT have been equated with conspiracy theories by the New York Times simply because RT reports news and opinions that the New York Times does not report and the US government does not endorse.

In other words, as truth becomes uncomfortable for government and its Ministry of Propaganda, truth is redefined as conspiracy theory, by which is meant an absurd and laughable explanation that we should ignore.


When piles of carefully researched books, released government documents, and testimony of eye witnesses made it clear that Oswald was not President John F. Kennedy’s assassin, the voluminous research, government documents, and verified testimony was dismissed as “conspiracy theory.”  

In other words, the truth of the event was unacceptable to the authorities and to the Ministry of Propaganda that represents the interests of authorities.

The purest example of how Americans are shielded from truth is the media’s (including many Internet sites’) response to the large number of professionals who find the official explanation of September 11, 2001, inconsistent with everything they, as experts, know about physics, chemistry, structural engineering, architecture, fires, structural damage, the piloting of airplanes, the security procedures of the United States, NORAD’s capabilities, air traffic control, airport security, and other matters.  These experts, numbering in the thousands, have been shouted down by know-nothings in the media  who brand the experts as “conspiracy theorists.”  

This despite the fact that the official explanation endorsed by the official media is the most extravagant conspiracy theory in human history.  

Let’s take a minute to re-acquaint ourselves with the official explanation, which is not regarded as a conspiracy theory despite the fact that it comprises an amazing conspiracy.  The official truth is that a handful of young Muslim Arabs who could not fly airplanes, mainly Saudi Arabians who came neither from Iraq nor from Afghanistan, outwitted not only the CIA and the FBI, but also all 16  US intelligence agencies and all intelligence agencies of US allies including Israel’s Mossad, which is believed to have penetrated every terrorist organization and which carries out assassinations of those whom Mossad marks as terrorists.

In addition to outwitting every intelligence agency of the United States and its allies, the handful of young Saudi Arabians outwitted the National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times in the same hour on the same morning,  air traffic control, caused the US Air Force to be unable to launch interceptor aircraft,  and caused three well-built steel-structured buildings, including one not hit by an airplane, to fail suddenly in a few seconds as a result of limited structural damage and small, short-lived, low-temperature fires that burned on a few floors. 

The Saudi terrorists were even able to confound the laws of physics and cause WTC building seven to collapse at free fall speed for several seconds, a physical impossibility in the absence of explosives used in controlled demolition.

The story that the government and the media have told us amounts to a gigantic conspiracy, really a script for a James Bond film. Yet, anyone who doubts this improbable conspiracy theory is defined into irrelevance by the obedient media.

Anyone who believes an architect, structural engineer, or demolition expert who says that the videos show that the buildings are blowing up, not falling down, anyone who believes a Ph.D. physicist who says that the official explanation is inconsistent with known laws of physics, anyone who believes expert pilots who testify that non-pilots or poorly-qualified pilots cannot fly airplanes in such maneuvers, anyone who believes the 100 or more first responders who testify that they not only heard explosions in the towers but personally experienced explosions, anyone who believes University of Copenhagen nano-chemist Niels Harrit who reports finding unreacted nano-thermite in dust samples from the WTC towers, anyone who is convinced by experts instead of by propaganda is dismissed as a kook.  

In America today, and increasingly throughout the Western world, actual facts and true explanations have been relegated to the realm of kookiness.  Only people who believe lies are socially approved and accepted as patriotic citizens.

Indeed, a writer or newscaster is not even permitted to report the findings of 9/11 skeptics.  In other words, simply to report Professor Harrit’s findings now means that you endorse them or agree with them.  Everyone in the US print and TV media knows that he/she will be instantly fired if they report Harrit’s findings, even with a laugh. Thus, although Harrit has reported his findings on European television and has lectured widely on his findings in Canadian universities, the fact that he and the international scientific research team that he led found unreacted nano-thermite in the WTC dust and have offered samples to other scientists to examine has to my knowledge never been reported in the American media.


Even Internet sites on which I am among the readers’ favorites will not allow me to report on Harrit’s findings.

As I reported earlier, I myself had experience with a Huffington Post reporter who was keen to interview a Reagan presidential appointee who was in disagreement with the Republican wars in the Middle East.  After he published the interview that I provided at his request, he was terrified to learn that I had reported findings of 9/11 investigators.  To protect his career, he quickly inserted on the online interview that my views on the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions could be dismissed as I had reported unacceptable findings about 9/11.

The unwillingness or inability to entertain any view of 9/11 different from the official view dooms to impotence many Internet sites that are opposed to the wars and to the rise of the domestic US police state.  These sites, for whatever the reasons, accept the government’s explanation of 9/11; yet, they try to oppose the  “war on terror” and the police state which are the consequences of accepting the government’s explanation. Trying to oppose the consequences of an event whose explanation you accept is an impossible task.


If you believe that America was attacked by Muslim terrorists and is susceptible to future attacks, then a “war on terror” and a domestic police state to root out terrorists become necessary to make Americans safe. The idea that a domestic police state and open-ended war might be more dangerous threats to Americans than terrorists is an impermissible thought.  

A country whose population has been trained to accept the government’s word and to shun those who question it is a country without liberty in its future.

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#1. To: Original_Intent, randge, christine, noone222, GreyLmist, titorite, Itistoolate, Eric Stratton, HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull, FormerLurker, RickyJ, Lysander Spooner, Artisan, James Deffenbach, Lod, abraxas, Dakmar, angK, CadetD, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All, (#0)


No Planes. Think about it. ... Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)... "To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle." ~ George Orwell... Israelis For 9/11 Truth

wudidiz  posted on  2011-08-30   7:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: wudidiz (#1)

Proof of Lies by George W. Bush in National Geographic Interview on 9/11

beforeitsnews.com/story/1...ic_Interview_on_9_11.html

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-08-30   8:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wudidiz (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-30   8:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz (#0)

In America today, and increasingly throughout the Western world, actual facts and true explanations have been relegated to the realm of kookiness. Only people who believe lies are socially approved and accepted as patriotic citizens.

Something which I was saying years ago.

The terms "Conspiracy Theory" and "Conspiracy Theorist" are terms that were planted to be able to defuse "hot" information and facts that are contrary to the interests of the Banksters and their Psychs and which lead to what is really going on.

Yes 911 was an inside job.

Yes the economy has been destroyed intentionally.

Libya was not a threat and the massacre which took place there via NATO bombing and the hired mercenary thugs, many of who were Al Qaeda (CIA) operatives, was a War Crime perpetrated by USRAEL.

Deal with it.

The News media is owned and controlled by people who lie regularly, routinely, and the most unreliable source of information on current events is the major media - which includes that suppurating filth Rush Limbaugh, Sean Vannity, Michael Savage Wiener, etc., .... If Rush Limbaugh ever told the truth about how the world really operates he would be off the air, and very possibly dead - from a "drug overdose", the next day.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-30   12:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itistoolate, wudidiz, randge, christine, noone222, GreyLmist, titorite, Eric Stratton, HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull, FormerLurker, RickyJ, Lysander Spooner, Artisan, James Deffenbach, Lod, abraxas, Dakmar, angK, CadetD, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All, (#2)

Proof of Lies by George W. Bush in National Geographic Interview on 9/11


Sun Aug 28 15:43

(CLN) Tonight, as we approach the 10th anniversary of September 11th, the National Geographic Channel will air a new documentary titled “George W. Bush: The 9/11 Interview.” In the two minute promo clip that was released, Bush lies multiple times about the events that took place on that fateful day. This article will expose the lies and show that Bush has changed his story repeatedly. We also provide evidence that Bush intended to invade Iraq from the first day of his Presidency.

Here’s the promo clip:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3S2LrNlSYs

The following is a partial transcript of the clip along with some comments in brackets:

“September 11 is a monumental day in our nation’s history - a significant day. It changed my presidency.” [The words “monumental” and “significant” seem like odd choices. Why didn’t Bush use a word like “tragic” to describe September 11?]

“I went from a president who was primarily focused on domestic issues to a wartime president – something I never anticipated, nor something I ever wanted to be.” [This is a lie. Bush was focused on taking out Saddam Hussein from day 1 of his presidency according to Paul O’Neill (Bush’s first Treasury Secretary) and 4-Star General Wesley Clark. Read more below.]

“I had been notified that a plane had hit the world trade center.” [This contradicts statements made by Bush on two occasions that that he SAW the first plane hit on a TV set at Emma E. Booker Elementary School, while waiting to enter the classroom (which was impossible because there was no available footage at the time). Read more below.]

“At first I thought that it was a light aircraft. And, my reaction was, man, either the weather was bad or something extraordinary happened to the pilot.” [This is not consistent with previous statements made by Bush. He made no mention of a light aircraft when he said that he saw the first plane hit on TV. After all, if he had seen it happen, he would have known that it was not a light aircraft. Nor was there mention of bad weather as a possible cause. He did, however, mention pilot error each time. Read more below.]

“I then informed some of my staff members to provide help to New York City – whatever help they needed to take care of this incident and then walked into the classroom.” [Bush has now provided at least three, vastly different versions of his initial actions after finding out about the first plane hitting the WTC. Read more below.]

Bush Sought Way To Invade Iraq from Day 1 of His Administration
In Lesley Stahl’s 60 Minutes interview with Bush’s first Treasury Secretary, Paul O’Neill, which aired in early January, 2004, O’Neill revealed that Saddam Hussein and Iraq were Bush’s main focus from the very beginning of his administration. See the transcript below and the video link below that.

Stahl: “And what happened in President Bush’s very first National Security Council meeting is one of O’Neill’s most startling revelations.”

O’Neill: "From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go."

Stahl: “He said that going after Saddam was topic ‘A’ 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11.”

Ron Suskind (author of the book "The Price of Loyalty" in which O’Neill was a significant contributor. O'Neill gave Suskind 19,000 internal documents): "From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime"

Stahl: “Now everybody else thought that grew out of 9/11.”

Suskind: “No”

Stahl: “But this book says it was day one of this administration.”

Suskind: “Day one, these things were laid and sealed."

Stahl: “As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as ‘Why Saddam?’ and ‘Why now?’ were never asked.”

Stahl (quoting O’Neill from the book): "It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying 'Go find me a way to do this.'"

O’Neill: "For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."

Stahl: “And that came up at this first meeting?”

O’Neill: “It did.”

Stahl: “O'Neill told us that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later. He got briefing materials under this cover sheet.” (Note: the cover sheet is shown in the video)

Suskind: "There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, 'Plan for post-Saddam Iraq.'" (Note: the memo is shown in the video)

Stahl: “Nation Building?”

Suskind: “Absolutely.”

Stahl: “So, they discussed an occupation of Iraq?”

Suskind: “ In January and February of 2001.

Stahl: “Based on his interviews with O'Neill and several other officials at the meetings, Suskind writes that the planning envisioned peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals, and even divvying up Iraq's oil wealth.”

Stahl: “Suskind obtained this Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001, entitled ‘Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.’ It includes a map of potential areas for exploration.” (Note: the document is shown in the video)

Suskind: "It talks about contractors around the world from, you know, 30-40 countries. And which ones have what intentions…"

Stahl: “On oil.”

Suskind. "On oil in Iraq."

Did you catch that? Six months before 9/11, there were already plans for how the Iraqi oil fields would be divided up, and which contractors would do the work.

Here's the 60 Minutes interview with O’Neill:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpaq3Vr95oU

Bush Admits that He Targeted Saddam from the Start
On January 11, 2004, Bush responded to O’Neill’s allegations:
"The stated policy of my administration toward Saddam Hussein was very clear -- like the previous administration, we were for regime change," Bush told a joint news conference in Monterrey, Mexico, with Mexican President Vicente Fox. "And in the initial stages of the administration, as you might remember, we were dealing with (enforcing a no-fly zone over Iraq) and so we were fashioning policy along those lines."

Statement By General Wesley Clark Regarding the Paul O'Neill's 60 Minutes Interview

For Immediate Release
Date: January 11, 2004

Today, Paul O'Neill confirmed what I have been saying all along: the Bush Administration's focus on Iraq was not tied to the war on terror. It was a long-standing plan that was discussed from the opening days of the Bush White House.

In White House meetings during the months of January and February 2001, President Bush and his advisors were planning for what they presented to the public in January and February of 2003: peacekeeping troops, war crimes tribunals and nation building memos for a post-Saddam Iraq. Bush and his advisors even went so far as to plan for the divvying up of Iraq's oil wealth.

According to Secretary O'Neill, President Bush was focused on finding a way to overthrow Saddam, and he demanded that those around him find a way to do it. In the end, they used the war on terror as an excuse to execute their long-standing plans.

This is wrong. This is not leadership. The American people deserve to know the truth, especially something involving young service men and women. But given the track record of the Bush Administration, the last thing the American people can count on is the truth.

General Wesley Clark Reveals US Plan to Invade Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran
In the video below, General Wesley Clark says that less than 10 days after 9/11, plans to go to war with Iraq were revealed to him. A few weeks later, after the US had started bombing Afghanistan, Clark was shown a document containing plans to “take over” seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Here's the video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx1nPu3k

Up until this point, we’ve addressed Bush’s lie about never anticipating being a wartime president. Next, we’ll address the other lies in the promo clip. First, let’s review what Bush said on the night of the attacks.

Bush's address to the nation on the evening of 9-11
On the evening of September 11, 2001, Bush addressed the nation regarding the attacks on New York and Washington. Here’s a video of his speech:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMiqEUBux3o

Of primary significance is following statement that he made:

“Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans.”

That statement would suggest that Bush knew early on about the first plane and took action shortly after it struck WTC-1 at 8:46 am, while he was en route to Booker Elementary (according to 911timeline.net):

8:32 a.m.: Bush’s motorcade leaves The Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, Florida for Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota.

8:40 a.m.: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) notifies NORAD that American Airlines Flight 11 has been hijacked. Even NORAD officially admitted that the FAA told them about the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11 at 8:40.

8:46 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 impacts the north side of the North Tower (1 World Trade Center) of the WTC between the 94th and 98th floors. American Airlines Flight 11 was flying at a speed of 490 miles per hour (MPH).

8:48 a.m.: The first news reports appear on TV and radio that a plane may have crashed into the WTC.

8:51 a.m.: Bush arrives at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida for a photo op with 16 second graders. He is there to promote his administration's new bill on education.

9:01 a.m.: Bush enters classroom.

Bush’s assertion that he implemented emergency response plans immediately following the first attack actually makes sense. He had time to do so. So, why did he change his story and tell an impossible tale three months later?

Bush Lies on Dec 4, 2001 about Seeing the First Plane Hit on TV
On December 4, 2001, less than three months after 9-11, Bush spoke at a Town Hall meeting in Orlando, Florida. He took questions. Toward the end of the meeting, the following exchange occurred:

QUESTION: Jordan's in third grade. And Jordan has a question, if I could give him the microphone.

BUSH: You bet. You're mother's relaying the mike to you, Jordan.

QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

BUSH: Well...

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you, Jordan .

Well, Jordan , you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

And Jordan, I wasn't sure what to think at first. You know, I grew up in a period of time where the idea of America being under attack never entered my mind -- just like your daddy and mother's mind probably. And I started thinking hard in that very brief period of time about what it meant to be under attack. I knew that when I got all the facts that we were under attack, there would be hell to pay for attacking America.

Now, watch this video that proves that Bush was lying to little Jordan (and the rest of the world):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUXglJU2w6U

“I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it.”

That statement doesn’t correlate with the statement he made when he addressed the nation on the evening of 9/11:

“Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans.”

Nor does it agree with what he says on the NatGeo documentary:

“I then informed some of my staff members to provide help to New York City – whatever help they needed to take care of this incident and then walked into the classroom.”

On January 5, 2002, Bush repeats story about seeing a plane fly into the first building at a Town Hall Forum on Economy in California:

Student: “What was the first thing that went through your head when you heard that a plane crashed into the…”

Bush: " Well, I was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida. I’d gone down to tell my little brother what to do. And, uh… just kidding Jeb. And uh, that’s the mother in me. Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack."

Analysis of the above statement: Bush lies again about the first plane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWSv0NZBRw

Bush Tells “Funny” Joke about His Lies
Not only has Bush repeatedly lied to the American public, but he’s also changed his story about his actions on September 11, 2001 multiple times. In addition, we know that Bush also lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, which was used as an excuse for invading Iraq. For details, see the article “CIA Confirms Bush Lied about WMDs.

After the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, Bush jokes about the fact that no WMDs were ever found at a White House Correspondents Dinner in 2004:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKX6luiMINQ

Who are Bush and his audience laughing at here? The joke is on us. They are laughing at us. And they will continue laughing as long as we allow them to use their lies in order to dictate foreign and domestic policy.

Do you think that the families of the 6,600 soldiers who have died in Iraq appreciate Bush’s humor? Or, how about the estimated 1.4 million Iraqis that have been killed in Operation Enduring Freedom?

Conclusion
In conclusion, Bush needed a reason to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. And, he needed the support of the American public to do so. He directed the members of the National Security Council to find a way to do it. And they did: 9/11 and WMD. Bush has repeatedly lied about both, as well as altered his story over time. If he was telling the truth, it would be easy for him to tell a consistent story. But, he hasn't.

How to Easily Convince the Masses of the Truth About 9/11

In our next article on 9/11, which will be posted one week from today, we will provide incontrovertible evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. For those who believe the official story, this will change their minds. The information presented in first video that we mention in the article was, by itself, able change the minds of 96% of those who believed the official story about the WTC buildings at the Conscious Life Expo earlier this year.

We have also pieced together about a half-dozen, short videos that show, without a shadow of doubt, that the official story of the Pentagon was also a lie. One of the videos has only been watched by a few hundred people. But, it’s a real eye opener. Stay tuned.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-30   12:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#5) (Edited)

compelling stuff.

It's a human crime that the fuckstain has not had to answer for his actions that day....

I tell you if I had my chance and I knew I could get away with it...

titorite  posted on  2011-08-30   14:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#1)

thanks for posting. Paul Craig Roberts has evolved into an eloquent spokesman for 911 truth. I respect thjat he is not another gutless wonder who shills for the 911 bullshit story.If only ron paul could borrow some gonads & SPEAK THE TRUTH. This is it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-08-30   14:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: titorite (#6)

I think he should be given a fair trial and a swift hanging.

Hizzoner the Honorable Judge Roy Bean presiding.

FOR TEXAS AND MISS LILLY!

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-30   14:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#5)

thanks for that. There is so much data about 911 proving its a false flag, that i probably forgot half of it. only a freak could examine the data without reaching the true logical conclusion.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-08-30   15:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#8)

How Israel rewarded him for it

www.texemarrs.com/042008/gog_magog_scroll_of_bush.htm

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-08-30   16:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#9)

You're welcome

There is so much data about 911 proving its a false flag, that i probably forgot half of it. only a freak could examine the data without reaching the true logical conclusion.

Or a FreepTard, but then I repeat.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-08-30   16:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Artisan (#9)

hanks for that. There is so much data about 911 proving its a false flag, that i probably forgot half of it. only a freak could examine the data without reaching the true logical conclusion.

O come on guys, I mean they found passports of the Islamoterrorists in the wreckage of the WTC first thing.

What more could ya want/??

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2011-08-30   17:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz (#1)

Great post. Thanx 4 the ping.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-30   23:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent, christine, Jethro tull, James Deffenbach, Pinguinite, wudidiz, tom007, Lod, noone222, TwentyTwelve, X-15, abraxas, Artisan, lead.and.lag, Esso, Dakmar, BTP Holdings, RickyJ, randge, Eric Stratton (#5) (Edited)

Reading this angers me because America is ruled by despots who openly dare us to challenge their lies as they dismantle all we were supposed to stand for.

I expect this from Robert Mugabe, who allows food to rot on the docks because he can't find any buyers for food that was donated for the starving masses.

It's not much different than Bush outlawing the importation of affordable pharmaceuticals from Canada, claiming that there's a safety issue. People who choose to eat instead of paying outrageous prices for meds suffer and possibly die because Bush wanted to protect the profits of his BIG PHARMA buddies.

And it doesn't matter which party moves the tyranny ball down field-the other party not only never reverses it but they continue in the same direction (half-court football analogy?) without any loss of momentum clearly in service to a robed and shadowy cult (EYES WIDE SHUT?) that is planning our national demise and plotting to enslave us all from their crushed velvet chairs.

The people are so weak and divided that the only thing the diverse factions have in common are, they all look like ostriches with their heads buried even as they argue over manufactured articles of faith.

"You (fill in blank) are ruining Amurka and me and mah friends are gonna kill ewe as soon as the gummint figgers out that we're the only trew patriotz left!"

And, remember that you read it here first:

SNEAK PREVIEW OF THE PUPPY DIARIES (Suitable reading for the litter box)

When the govt calls in all privately held firearms and fixes penalties that will assure that only suicidal, "folks at the end of their ropes" will dare resist (remember Andrew Joseph Stack III?) The only guns left in private hands will be buried and effectively worthless. That will leave ample resources and goon power to destroy any pots that boil over. At first there will be no surrounding the house or SWAT-style dynamic entries with flash bang grenades. They'll horrify us all by painting the target with a LASER and an overflying B2 will drop a guided 10,000 pounder from five miles up, leaving a crater where an "armed terrorist and his family" was reported to be.

After the incredible footage is played on a few news cycles (Donald Rumsfeld may cheerfully volunteer to narrate live on camera, explaining that there will be no forthcoming apologies or future hesitation as his throbbing chubby telegraphs his immense arousal and pleasure) all organized resistance will vaporize and dissipate.

("Dear Gen. Olson, With this letter and deep regret I am officially resigning as Command Sgt Major of The Michigan Militia...") Any mentally ill folks will likely lose their nerve, crack up and commit suicide after hours of waiting for a bomb from a plane that no one ever hears. (Mental health assessments will be amazingly precise because of the comprehensive database in govt hands-the terror task force know who will require the Full Monty including those whose publicity value will justify the expense and collateral damage.) "Fire for effect and keep him pinned down until the plane gets here, Lance Cpl. Whatever you do don't allow him to surrender!"

"Aye aye, Colonel!")

Ifrared will confirm the "permissible suicides" and any blind spots can be sterilized with penetrating poison gas cartridges that can be fired from standard police-issue M-203 launchers which by then will be as ubiquitous as TASERs and riot shotguns.

And all the cops, soldiers, Job Corps and VISTA eavesdroppers, BLACK RAPPER OPERATIVES TO HALT ETERNAL RACIAL SUBORDINATION (B.R.O.T.H.E.R.S) secret police and snitch database managers lived happily ever after.

The end.

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If this comes to pass it will mean that we the people waited too long and bungled the last chance to help the power junkies get right with The Lord.

In the mean time we should all decide whether we'd rather run the risk of dying once on our feet instead of the promise of a thousand deaths on our knees.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-31   2:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14) (Edited)

In the mean time we should all decide whether we'd rather run the risk of dying once on our feet instead of the promise of a thousand deaths on our knees.

Fuck crazy Uncle Sambo and his minions. IMHO there are only 2 ways this thing plays out.

1. People weary of the persitent threats like fed invasions or fake hurricanes or even the constant ratcheting up of invasive rules and homo-land insecurity lesbian announcements and take to the streets by the millions in protest - or

2. Small vigilante groups or lone wolves seek out the perpe - traitors of grief and cut their nuts off or in some cases smack the lesbo monkey til it dies.

As for me, gimme liberty or come and try to take it !

EDIT: Great Post Dawg !

noone222  posted on  2011-08-31   4:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HOUNDDAWG, All (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-31   9:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-08-31   9:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tom007 (#12)

Most Uhmurikans are scared to death to travel, think they will be beheaded if they cross the border, & have never even considered getting a passport so they dont know it is only paper.Thats probably why the absurd 911 pasport story isnt absurd to them.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-08-31   13:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#15)

Fuck crazy Uncle Sambo and his minions. IMHO there are only 2 ways this thing plays out.

1. People weary of the persistent threats like fed invasions or fake hurricanes or even the constant ratcheting up of invasive rules and homo-land insecurity lesbian announcements and take to the streets by the millions in protest - or

2. Small vigilante groups or lone wolves seek out the perpe - traitors of grief and cut their nuts off or in some cases smack the lesbo monkey til it dies.

As for me, gimme liberty or come and try to take it !

That's the spirit.

Those in govt service who are trying to hunker down and go the distance for their pensions don't want to die in a shootout with CIA-DEA-ATF-affiliated gangsters, and they don't want to be killed with guns that were walked out of the TAMPA ATF OFFICE and then left at the scene.

Those who gave up their Earth shoes when they left college and graduated to govt wingtips must know that their career choices were a mistake. My advice to them is "keep your heads down and aim high and let the fanatics who believe they're doing The Lord's work stop the bullets." If they play their cards right they can write books after the revolution, i.e. "I WAS UNDERCOVER IN THE ATF."

"The team tried to make me participate in parties with hookers and sodomites, but I just pretended to swallow the Viagra and I claimed that I couldn't 'come to attention" if you get my drift. I jut pictured them swinging from lamp posts, a suitable fate for morally depraved traitors. And, I promised myself that I'd get through this somehow and save the constitution for my kids and theirs.

My team was made up of the same no-necks who snapped each other's naked butts with wet towels in the high school locker room. I didn't like them as kids and I liked them even less as federal agents who were sworn to a noble mission. But the oath we took was meaningless and we all knew it. Our job was to bring down those who dared to resist the foreign powers who were running America, and "the rights of the accused" were the lowest priority of any federal agent. "

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-31   18:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

Quote "The analogy that I use, which you may well know, is one of a sailboat steadily sailing due South into the wind.

The boat tacks left, then tacks right, then tacks left again, then tacks right again, etc., etc."

Very good analogy as it is the only way to make progress when sailing against the prevailing winds, and it's the method used by our uninspired govt when lying about their true agenda and direction. And those who really run things have been wildly successful so far and they see no reason to change tactics at this point. Despite the obvious deception to those Americans who really look, that's the "boney contention" I've had in the past with those who would not see.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-31   19:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#16) (Edited)

duplicate post.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-31   19:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Eric Stratton (#17)

Phunnie!

And a clever interpretation and application on your part, too.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-08-31   19:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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