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Title: Republicans Against Science
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/o ... ml?_r=2&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Published: Aug 30, 2011
Author: pk
Post Date: 2011-08-30 12:24:06 by tom007
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Republicans Against Science By PAUL KRUGMAN Published: August 28, 2011

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Jon Huntsman Jr., a former Utah governor and ambassador to China, isn’t a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. And that’s too bad, because Mr. Hunstman has been willing to say the unsayable about the G.O.P. — namely, that it is becoming the “anti-science party.” This is an enormously important development. And it should terrify us. Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times

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To see what Mr. Huntsman means, consider recent statements by the two men who actually are serious contenders for the G.O.P. nomination: Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.

Mr. Perry, the governor of Texas, recently made headlines by dismissing evolution as “just a theory,” one that has “got some gaps in it” — an observation that will come as news to the vast majority of biologists. But what really got peoples’ attention was what he said about climate change: “I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change.”

That’s a remarkable statement — or maybe the right adjective is “vile.”

The second part of Mr. Perry’s statement is, as it happens, just false: the scientific consensus about man-made global warming — which includes 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field, according to the National Academy of Sciences — is getting stronger, not weaker, as the evidence for climate change just keeps mounting.

In fact, if you follow climate science at all you know that the main development over the past few years has been growing concern that projections of future climate are underestimating the likely amount of warming. Warnings that we may face civilization-threatening temperature change by the end of the century, once considered outlandish, are now coming out of mainstream research groups.

But never mind that, Mr. Perry suggests; those scientists are just in it for the money, “manipulating data” to create a fake threat. In his book “Fed Up,” he dismissed climate science as a “contrived phony mess that is falling apart.”

I could point out that Mr. Perry is buying into a truly crazy conspiracy theory, which asserts that thousands of scientists all around the world are on the take, with not one willing to break the code of silence. I could also point out that multiple investigations into charges of intellectual malpractice on the part of climate scientists have ended up exonerating the accused researchers of all accusations. But never mind: Mr. Perry and those who think like him know what they want to believe, and their response to anyone who contradicts them is to start a witch hunt.

So how has Mr. Romney, the other leading contender for the G.O.P. nomination, responded to Mr. Perry’s challenge? In trademark fashion: By running away. In the past, Mr. Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, has strongly endorsed the notion that man-made climate change is a real concern. But, last week, he softened that to a statement that he thinks the world is getting hotter, but “I don’t know that” and “I don’t know if it’s mostly caused by humans.” Moral courage!

Of course, we know what’s motivating Mr. Romney’s sudden lack of conviction. According to Public Policy Polling, only 21 percent of Republican voters in Iowa believe in global warming (and only 35 percent believe in evolution). Within the G.O.P., willful ignorance has become a litmus test for candidates, one that Mr. Romney is determined to pass at all costs.

So it’s now highly likely that the presidential candidate of one of our two major political parties will either be a man who believes what he wants to believe, even in the teeth of scientific evidence, or a man who pretends to believe whatever he thinks the party’s base wants him to believe.

And the deepening anti-intellectualism of the political right, both within and beyond the G.O.P., extends far beyond the issue of climate change.

Lately, for example, The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page has gone beyond its long-term preference for the economic ideas of “charlatans and cranks” — as one of former President George W. Bush’s chief economic advisers famously put it — to a general denigration of hard thinking about matters economic. Pay no attention to “fancy theories” that conflict with “common sense,” the Journal tells us. Because why should anyone imagine that you need more than gut feelings to analyze things like financial crises and recessions?

Now, we don’t know who will win next year’s presidential election. But the odds are that one of these years the world’s greatest nation will find itself ruled by a party that is aggressively anti-science, indeed anti-knowledge. And, in a time of severe challenges — environmental, economic, and more — that’s a terrifying prospect. A version of this op-ed appeared in print on August 29, 2011, on page A23 of the New York edition with the headline: Republicans Against Science.

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#1. To: tom007, farmfriend, christine, CadetD, randge, Ferret, all (#0) (Edited)

Krugman and the NY Slimes are credible only as DISINFORMATION.

I could spend a couple hours slicing dicing this but just a couple of things that stand out:

To see what Mr. Huntsman means, consider recent statements by the two men who actually are serious contenders for the G.O.P. nomination: Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.

Notice the exclusion of Ron Paul as a "serious candidate". The real purpose of this sentence is to plant in the mind of the reader that Ron Paul, who leads the two lightweights mentioned in any honest poll, is not a "serious candidate".

The sentence is part of the subtle conditioning going on to make Ron Paul a non-person and to influence the sheeple into accepting that implanted meme.

It should be clear to anyone of any awareness, which excludes the slack jawed drooling mouth breathing defectives of FreepTardia, that there is an active behind the scenes campaign to eliminate Ron Paul.

“I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change.”

That’s a remarkable statement — or maybe the right adjective is “vile.”

Here again Krugman shows he is carrying water for the elites as he pushes the discredited "Glowbull Warming" charade. The statement that he is allegedly objecting to is: TRUE.

I don't care for Huntsman and he is just another toady to the elite, but the point is that the theory that he is breathlessly trying to sell is:

A. A theory.

B. Contradicted by a large and growing body of evidence.

C. If one is practicing the Scientific Method then when one is presented with conflicting evidence that is validated then the correct scientific response is to either modify the theory to account for the new evidence or throw it out in its entirety and start over with a new theory that better explains the observed data.

Krugman is making an argument which is logically FALSE it is an Appeal To Misleading Authority which is one of the classical logical fallacies. Since Mr. Krugman is a highly paid writer for a major newspaper he has to know this is false so in addition to committing a logical fallacy he is willingly and knowingly l-y-i-n-g.

"In fact, if you follow climate science at all you know that the main development over the past few years has been growing concern that projections of future climate are underestimating the likely amount of warming."

That statement is patently false. The only people who are still pushing it are people who are being paid, usually by "grant" bribes money to push it. (The recent climate record suggests that we are cooling not warming.) That and the Robber Baron Foundation supported pseudo environmental movement (more like a bowel movement).

"Now, we don’t know who will win next year’s presidential election. But the odds are that one of these years the world’s greatest nation will find itself ruled by a party that is aggressively anti-science, indeed anti-knowledge. "

Another Krugman Whopper™. To follow his reasoning if you follow the actual evidence of the climate record, and other related data such as solar radiation levels, then you are being unscientific because you disagree with the paid experts.

Earth to Paul Krugman!

Earth to Paul Krugman!

Uh, Paully baby - science is not about experts it is about what the data says not what the authority figure says the data says. Your whopper there is just about as unscientific as you can get.

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Questioning man-made warming is the only thing that pointy-boots has correct.

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Krugman is a propagandist pure and simple. If he ever accidentally comes close to the truth it is only to support the propaganda he is catapulting, or in his case "slinging".

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