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Title: Eric Cantor Tells Irene's Victims to Go Somewhere and Die
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URL Source: http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/08/ ... ictims-to-go-somewhere-and-die
Published: Aug 31, 2011
Author: http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/08/18947
Post Date: 2011-08-31 19:13:45 by tom007
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Eric Cantor Tells Irene's Victims to Go Somewhere and Die By John Thorpe Benzinga Staff Writer August 31, 2011 3:07 PM Tags: eric cantor, Republicans, Hurricane Irene Posted in: News, Movers & Shakers, Politics, General, Best of Benzinga inShare Share3 The corpses from the deadly Hurricane Irene not even in the ground yet, and Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor is already playing politics with the relief money. The Virginia Republican, who is quickly becoming the most obnoxious Republican in Congress, does not want to pay out any emergency disaster relief funds unless the government first makes cuts in other programs...again. “Eric Cantor and other members of Congress said they would only approve disaster relief assistance if they could force through more spending cuts in Washington,” said Democratic Senate candidate Tim Kaine. “This is the same kind of inappropriate negotiating tactics that nearly caused America to default on its financial obligations earlier this month.” Once again, the Republicans have decided to take hostages and act like economic terrorists to get their agenda passed. They know they cannot get spending cuts passed under normal means, so they grasp on to actual emergency conditions and try to make government's assistance conditional on their asinine agenda. It's wrong, it's sick, it's disgusting and it needs to stop. I understand that Eric Cantor really wants to be liked by the Tea Party psychopaths who want to see this country burn and then bitch about paying the bill presented by the privatized, for-profit firemen company, but this is America. And in America, we just suck it up and pay for things like disaster relief. But, no. Cantor has his jihad going and he'll be damned if he's going to let a disaster go by without holding Americans hostage. If Republicans were serious about their alleged love of country, they'd remove him from office as quickly as humanly possible. But they won't, of course, because Republicans have completely lost their damn mind. Here's an idea, Eric. If you want to offset spending on disaster relief, how about we exchange it for some increased taxes on billionaires? How about we institute a per-transaction micro-tax on Wall Street to chase off speculators? How about we cut your pay, your benefits, your pension, and your health care? How about we take your family off the government teat for a few years and instead take care of the truly needy? But of course not. Sacrifice is for little people, and not for the Eric Cantor's of the world. He's a Very Important Man who wears power ties and dines with lobbyists and trades the limited power of his office for whatever magic beans the corporate world will throw his way. What's truly sick about all this is Cantor's district is in the path of the storm. The people who voted for this disgusting human being are some of the ones he refuses to help. His voters are the ones whose heads Cantor is holding a gun to, demanding budget cuts or else. For that, Eric Cantor is a colossal douche — and with a little work, he can upgrade himself to massive, mega-douche. Perhaps one day he can even be a Vice Presidential candidate for the suddenly, shockingly obscene remnants of what used to be an honorable Republican Party. You can reach the author by email john@benzinga.com or on twitter @johndthorpe. Sino Clean Energy moved 10.75% higher after Benzinga Pro reported the Chairman share purchase. Try Benzinga Pro for free now and don't miss out on profits like these! (c) 2011 Benzinga.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published in its entirety or redistributed without the approval of Benzinga. Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/08/1894727/eric-cantor-tells-irenes-victims-to-go-somewhere-and-die#ixzz1WePYhAf7
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Perhaps, when the storm hits his neighborhood, he should go somewhere else and die too!
Originally published in "The Life of Colonel David Crockett," by Edward Sylvester Ellis. One day in the House of Representatives a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker--I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has not the power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him. "Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks." He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost. Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation: "Several years ago I was one evening standing on the steps of the Capitol with some other members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a great light over in Georgetown. It was evidently a large fire. We jumped into a hack and drove over as fast as we could. In spite of all that could be done, many houses were burned and many families made houseless, and, besides, some of them had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was very cold, and when I saw so many women and children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them. The next morning a bill was introduced appropriating $20,000 for their relief. We put aside all other business and rushed it through as soon as it could be done. "The next summer, when it began to be time to think about election, I concluded I would take a scout around among the boys of my district. I had no opposition there, but, as the election was some time off, I did not know what might turn up. When riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came to the fence. As he came up, I spoke to the man. He replied politely, but, as I thought, rather coldly. "I began: 'Well, friend, I am one of those unfortunate beings called candidates, and---‘ "Yes I know you; you are Colonel Crockett. I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine, I shall not vote for you again." "This was a sockdolager...I begged him to tell me what was the matter. " ’Well, Colonel, it is hardly worth-while to waste time or words upon it. I do not see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you are not the man to represent me. But I beg your pardon for expressing it in that way. I did not intend to avail myself of the privilege of the constituent to speak plainly to a candidate for the purpose of insulting or wounding you. I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the Constitution is very different from mine; and I will say to you what, but for my rudeness, I should not have said, that I believe you to be honest. …But an understanding of the Constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is the more dangerous the more honest he is.' " 'I admit the truth of all you say, but there must be some mistake about it, for I do not remember that I gave any vote last winter upon any constitutional question.’ “ ‘No, Colonel, there’s no mistake. Though I live in the backwoods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown. Is that true?’ " ‘Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury, and I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.' " ‘It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be entrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means. What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he. If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and, as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. 'No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. If twice as many houses had been burned in this county as in Georgetown, neither you nor any other member of Congress would have thought of appropriating a dollar for our relief. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week's pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men in and around Washington who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life.' "The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington, no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving by giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution.' " 'So you see, Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It is a precedent fraught with danger to the country, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it any better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and you see that I cannot vote for you.' "I tell you I felt streaked. I saw if I should have opposition, and this man should go to talking, he would set others to talking, and in that district I was a gone fawn-skin. I could not answer him, and the fact is, I was so fully convinced that he was right, I did not want to. But I must satisfy him, and I said to him: " ‘Well, my friend, you hit the nail upon the head when you said I had not sense enough to understand the Constitution. I intended to be guided by it, and thought I had studied it fully. I have heard many speeches in Congress about the powers of Congress, but what you have said here at your plow has got more hard, sound sense in it than all the fine speeches I ever heard. If I had ever taken the view of it that you have, I would have put my head into the fire before I would have given that vote; and if you will forgive me and vote for me again, if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot.' "He laughingly replied; 'Yes, Colonel, you have sworn to that once before, but I will trust you again upon one condition. You say that you are convinced that your vote was wrong. Your acknowledgment of it will do more good than beating you for it. If, as you go around the district, you will tell people about this vote, and that you are satisfied it was wrong, I will not only vote for you, but will do what I can to keep down opposition, and, perhaps, I may exert some little influence in that way.' " ‘If I don't’, said I, 'I wish I may be shot; and to convince you that I am in earnest in what I say I will come back this way in a week or ten days, and if you will get up a gathering of the people, I will make a speech to them. Get up a barbecue, and I will pay for it.' " ‘No, Colonel, we are not rich people in this section, but we have plenty of provisions to contribute for a barbecue, and some to spare for those who have none. The push of crops will be over in a few days, and we can then afford a day for a barbecue. This is Thursday; I will see to getting it up on Saturday week. Come to my house on Friday, and we will go together, and I promise you a very respectable crowd to see and hear you.’ " 'Well, I will be here. But one thing more before I say good-bye. I must know your name.’ " 'My name is Bunce.' " 'Not Horatio Bunce?' " 'Yes.’ " 'Well, Mr. Bunce, I never saw you before, though you say you have seen me, but I know you very well. I am glad I have met you, and very proud that I may hope to have you for my friend.' "It was one of the luckiest hits of my life that I met him. He mingled but little with the public, but was widely known for his remarkable intelligence and incorruptible integrity, and for a heart brimful and running over with kindness and benevolence, which showed themselves not only in words but in acts. He was the oracle of the whole country around him, and his fame had extended far beyond the circle of his immediate acquaintance. Though I had never met him, before, I had heard much of him, and but for this meeting it is very likely I should have had opposition, and had been beaten. One thing is very certain, no man could now stand up in that district under such a vote. "At the appointed time I was at his house, having told our conversation to every crowd I had met, and to every man I stayed all night with, and I found that it gave the people an interest and a confidence in me stronger than I had ever seen manifested before. "Though I was considerably fatigued when I reached his house, and, under ordinary circumstances, should have gone early to bed, I kept him up until midnight, talking about the principles and affairs of government, and got more real, true knowledge of them than I had got all my life before. "I have known and seen much of him since, for I respect him - no, that is not the word - I reverence and love him more than any living man, and I go to see him two or three times every year; and I will tell you, sir, if every one who professes to be a Christian lived and acted and enjoyed it as he does, the religion of Christ would take the world by storm. "But to return to my story. The next morning we went to the barbecue, and, to my surprise, found about a thousand men there. I met a good many whom I had not known before, and they and my friend introduced me around until I had got pretty well acquainted - at least, they all knew me. "In due time notice was given that I would speak to them. They gathered up around a stand that had been erected. I opened my speech by saying: " ‘Fellow-citizens - I present myself before you today feeling like a new man. My eyes have lately been opened to truths which ignorance or prejudice, or both, had heretofore hidden from my view. I feel that I can today offer you the ability to render you more valuable service than I have ever been able to render before. I am here today more for the purpose of acknowledging my error than to seek your votes. That I should make this acknowledgment is due to myself as well as to you. Whether you will vote for me is a matter for your consideration only.’" "I went on to tell them about the fire and my vote for the appropriation and then told them why I was satisfied it was wrong. I closed by saying: " ‘And now, fellow-citizens, it remains only for me to tell you that the most of the speech you have listened to with so much interest was simply a repetition of the arguments by which your neighbor, Mr. Bunce, convinced me of my error. " ‘It is the best speech I ever made in my life, but he is entitled to the credit for it. And now I hope he is satisfied with his convert and that he will get up here and tell you so.' "He came upon the stand and said: " ‘Fellow-citizens - It affords me great pleasure to comply with the request of Colonel Crockett. I have always considered him a thoroughly honest man, and I am satisfied that he will faithfully perform all that he has promised you today.' "He went down, and there went up from that crowd such a shout for Davy Crockett as his name never called forth before.' "I am not much given to tears, but I was taken with a choking then and felt some big drops rolling down my cheeks. And I tell you now that the remembrance of those few words spoken by such a man, and the honest, hearty shout they produced, is worth more to me than all the honors I have received and all the reputation I have ever made, or ever shall make, as a member of Congress.' "Now, sir," concluded Crockett, "you know why I made that speech yesterday. "There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a week's pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men - men who think nothing of spending a week's pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the great debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased--a debt which could not be paid by money--and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighed against the honor of the nation. Yet not one of them responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it." Perhaps John Thorpe should read this article and then put his money where his mouth is instead of encouraging the government to steal from some and give to others.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
An oldy but a goodie. That people is sadly gone.
Anti-racist Libertarians are just Marxists who don't want to wait for the state to wither away.
Cantor is right on this issue...it's NOT the federal governments job to steal from me to help you out of a fix you should help yourself out of. That's why there's this thing called insurance...
We do have such a man that would be our President - Dr.Ron Paul. Col.Crockett would approve this message, and wish that you will support him to the fullest of your abilities. Thank you.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
If Cantor isn't slapped down by the other Republicans, then Obama ought to pay for the FEMA aid by canceling any federal contracts (e.g. stimulus, building post offices) in districts represented by Republicans.
Charity would be a better solution, but taxes are paid for just such disaster relief. Might as well use it, if not they will just use it on some more bombs to kill Libyans.
God is always good!
Since Social Security came into existence. And also for FEMA too.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
Great comment to pop into this thread, JD. This country needs lot's of men like Crockett. They're out there, but a lack of money keeps their message hushed.
No one agrees more strongly with what you say than I do. However, you know that once the usual crowd of left liberal scribblers get hold of Cantor's words, anyone who calls for reasonable economies in the federal madhouse will be dragged over hot coals. The article above is just one salvo in the coming campaign. Meanwhile, the left neo-radical crowd will run riot with their Alinsky style tactics of "pressure from above - pressure from below," drowning out any rational discussion of the consequences of allowing this massive hemorrhage of red ink to continue. With Goldman handing record bonuses to its operatives and tons of money going to feed these entrenched, institutionalized wars of ours, the poor,those least able to withstand the effects of natural disasters, are encouraged to loudly demand their hunk of pie. The coming election will be model class warfare. I see Repub's losing this propaganda war and Zero back in the White House in '12 -- barring a miracle.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
These damned banks. It's like we're at sea in the middle of the ocean with only one doctor aboard, and since he's the only man on the ship that can stitch and saw bones, the captain keeps up his rum ration no matter how poorly he does his job. There's no one in command that can get the old geezer to dry up and straighten out. Bank of America is getting all kinds of sweetheart attention from the mis-administration while it sinks down the tubes. It may take a new crisis and widespread panic in order to ram another round of banker bailouts/quantitative easing down the throats of the public once more. Given that the Fed will likely wait for a full-blown crisis before announcing any official QE3, I don’t think the recent market rally is justified and expect stocks to resume their downtrend in the coming days, adding a further drag to the share price of the embattled Bank of America stock.
Never. It was never free.
Col.Crockett would approve this message, and wish that you will support him to the fullest of your abilities. I couldn't agree more. Ron is the best one running for the job and certainly far superior to the Kenyan who defrauded his way into office.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
Actually you present two uses of money not authorized by the Constitution. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention any disaster relief, that is the function of individuals, churches and private charities. And only when Congress declares war, which it hasn't done since WWII, should we be dropping any bombs anywhere. So no, don't get the government involved in charity which is not its proper role and don't give them the idea that their warmongering is a good thing either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
Thank you. I have posted that article and links to it anywhere that I thought was a good place for it. It needs to be read and understood by everyone, especially people running for public office.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
You are exactly correct.
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#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
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#5. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
One of the very greatest - thanks.
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#9. To: Eric Stratton (#6)
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Since when did the gubmint legally get into the freebie insurance biz?
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#12. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#2)
#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
The gubmint has no role in doing these things, particularly not the FedGov.
#14. To: randge (#13)
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#14)
Our elected leaders are doing everything possible to help the banks at the expense of the taxpayers. Political will for more bailouts and quantitative easing seems to have dried up, so they are resorting to backdoor bailouts and multi-billion-dollar gifts in the form of absurdly-discounted fines and future immunity from lawsuits.
#16. To: Eric Stratton (#6)
Since when did the gubmint legally get into the freebie insurance biz?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#17. To: Lod (#5)
We do have such a man that would be our President - Dr.Ron Paul.
#18. To: RickyJ (#8)
Charity would be a better solution, but taxes are paid for just such disaster relief. Might as well use it, if not they will just use it on some more bombs to kill Libyans.
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
Great comment to pop into this thread, JD. This country needs lot's of men like Crockett. They're out there, but a lack of money keeps their message hushed.
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#22. To: Eric Stratton (#11)
You know what's funny in this kountry, is that insurance seems to have become the opposite of what it was meant to be. Today it's overpaying for low level services while begging/having "the government" (which is really everyone else) pick up the tab for the big stuff.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
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