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Title: Flight 77 did NOT hit the Pentagon [Some New Stuff in Here]
Source: The Ugly Truth
URL Source: http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2 ... t-77-did-not-hit-the-pentagon/
Published: Sep 1, 2011
Author: N/A
Post Date: 2011-09-01 10:15:18 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 3138
Comments: 135

Flight 77 did NOT hit the Pentagon

Posted: August 31, 2011 by crescentandcross in Uncategorized

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The official government and media conspiracy theory says that American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked by 5 fanatical Islamic terrorists on 9/11, and flown into the Pentagon, killing all 64 people on board along with 125 people in the Pentagon. From Wikipedia:

American Airlines Flight 77 was American Airlines' morning, daily scheduled transcontinental flight, from Washington Dulles International Airport, in Dulles, Virginia to Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, California. On September 11, 2001, the aircraft flying this route—a Boeing 757-223—was hijacked by five al-Qaeda terrorists and deliberately crashed into the Pentagon, as part of the September 11 attacks.

Less than 35 minutes into the flight, the hijackers stormed the cockpit and forced the passengers to the rear of the aircraft. Hani Hanjour, one of the hijackers who was trained as a pilot, assumed control of the flight. Unknown to the hijackers, passengers aboard were able to make telephone calls to loved ones and relay information on the hijacking.

The aircraft crashed into the western side of the Pentagon at 09:37 EDT. All 64 people on board the aircraft, including the hijackers, were killed, as were 125 people in the building. Dozens of people witnessed the crash and news sources began reporting on the incident within minutes. The impact severely damaged an area of the Pentagon and ignited a large fire. A portion of the Pentagon collapsed; firefighters spent days trying to fully extinguish the blaze. The damaged sections of the Pentagon were rebuilt in 2002, with occupants moving back into the completed areas on August 15, 2002.

The 184 victims of the attack are memorialized in the Pentagon Memorial adjacent to the Pentagon. The 1.93-acre (7,800 m2) park contains a bench for each of the victims, arranged according to their year of birth, ranging from 1930 (aged 71) to 1998 (aged 3).

Upon further investigation, there is no evidence to support any of these claims. For starters, let's have a listen to what CNN Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre had to say about what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11:

From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.

The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.

Even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happen immediately. It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.

After the U.S. Justice Department released the rather pathetic photos supposedly showing Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, Jamie McIntrye had a change of heart:
McIntrye's rather Orwellian about face should not surprise anyone. 9/11 was a hectic day, and not everyone had their script in front of them, including McIntyre. After all, it's been common knowledge for years

now that the CIA has completely infiltrated the major corporate-owned media in this country, and that Pentagon psychological warfare specialists have conducted major operations via the corporate-owned media, including operations directed at the American public. Former CIA director William Colby has been quoted as saying, "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." Below, Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, a major leftist limited hangout/disinformation outlet which refuses to address the overwhelming, incontrovertible evidence proving 9/11 was an inside job, interviews Col. Sam Gardiner and Peter Hart, who have exposed the Pentagon's successful propaganda efforts in recent years using the major media of this country.

Criminal elements of the media clearly were and remain involved in the 9/11 deception and cover up.
In Enver Masud's "Pentagon Transcripts, Official Records Belie 56;The 9/11 Commission Report'," we learn:

I live less than a mile from the Pentagon, and began examining this issue in early 2002. The first question I asked when I looked at the Pentagon shortly after that tragic day in 2001 was, “where’s the plane?”

I began to suspect the official account of 9/11 when I learned that the U.S. war on Afghanistan was apparently planned prior to September 11, and possibly after U.S. negotiations with the Taliban for a pipeline broke down.

According to the BBC (September 18, 2001), Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. [...]

Writing in “9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out,” Kwiatowski noted, “a strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense, who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a ‘missile’.”

Pentagon employee April Gallop, whose “desk was roughly 40 feet from the point where the plane allegedly hit the outside wall” stated in a sworn complaint (before the U.S. District Court Southern District of New York):

“As she sat down to work there was an explosion, then another; walls collapsed and the ceiling fell in. Hit in the head, she was able to grab the baby and make her way towards the daylight showing through a blasted opening in the outside wall. There was no airplane wreckage and no burning airplane fuel anywhere; only rubble and dust.”

Barbara Honegger, military affairs journalist, reported in her personal capacity that a pilot sent by Gen Larry Arnold (NORAD) “reported back that there was no evidence that a plane had hit the building.” She added, “Multiple standard-issue, battery-operated wall clocks . . . stopped between 9:31 and 9:32-1/2 on September 11.” [...]

Masud emphasizes the importance of the September 12th and September 15th, 2001 Pentagon news briefings, and what they revealed:

At the September 12, 2001, Dept. of Defense (DoD) News Briefing by Assistant Secretary of Defense, Victoria Clarke, Ed Plaugher (fire chief of Arlington County), and others, “American Airlines”, “Flight 7783;, “Boeing 75783; were not even mentioned.

How significant is this?

With the world’s news media assembled at the Pentagon on the day after the alleged attack on the Pentagon by Arab hijackers flying American Airlines Flight 77 — a Boeing 757 — “American Airlines”, “Flight 7783;, “Boeing 75783; were not considered important enough to mention at the Pentagon News Briefing the day after the alleged attack!

Fire chief Ed Plaugher was asked by a reporter, “Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?” Plaugherresponded, “there are some small pieces of aircraft … there’s no fuselage sections and that sort of thing.”

When asked, “Chief, there are small pieces of the plane virtually all over, out over the highway, tiny pieces. Would you say the plane exploded, virtually exploded on impact due to the fuel”, Plaugher responded “You know, I’d rather not comment on that.” [...]

At the September 15, 2001, Dept. of Defense (DoD) News Briefing by Mr. Lee Evey, Pentagon Renovation Manager, Rear Adm. Craig R. Quigley, deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, and others, it was apparent that there were lingering doubts about what had struck the Pentagon on September 11.

When Mr. Evey said, “the nose of the aircraft broke through this innermost wall of C Ring”, a reporter asked, “One thing that’s confusing — if it came in the way you described, at an angle, why then are not the wings outside? I mean, the wings would have shorn off. The tail would have shorn off. And yet there’s apparently no evidence of the aircraft outside the E Ring.” Evey replied, “Actually, there’s considerable evidence of the aircraft outside the E Ring. It’s just not very visible.”

Apparently, no one asked how “the nose of the aircraft” (a relatively weak component of the aircraft) remained sufficiently intact to penetrate the C Ring — the E Ring is the outermost ring.

Dr. James Fetzer has explained in detail the fact that a Boeing 757, even piloted by an experienced and well-trained pilot (which was not the case with Hani Hanjour, the alleged Arab hijacker that flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon), could not possibly perform the feats described by the official government conspiracy theory:

The probability that a real Boeing 757 could have hit the Pentagon and not left debris from its wings and tail or even its engines-not to mention bodies, seats, and luggage-is zero. The probability that the alleged trajectory could have been flown in violation of the laws of aerodynamics is even less than zero-since violations of these laws is not physically possible. The probability that the trajectory, if it were possible, could have left a smooth, green, unblemished lawn is zero. The probability that debris would have been planted or that smoke would have been simulated, had this event involved the crash of a real Boeing 757, is likewise extremely low. That all of these things would have occurred if the alleged impact were contrived, however, is very high. Indeed, it is difficult to imagine any reasonable alternative. [...]

The conclusion that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon appears to have been established beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's been conclusively proven that in-flight phone calls were impossible in 2001. Why did Ted make up this story? Or, who told him to tell these lies? Where is Barbara now? Is it apparent to you by now that the media is a major part of the crime gang that pulled off 9/11? Are you aware that Zionist Jews with a particular agenda own most of the major corporate media and entertainment productions in this
country?

Are those incapable of contemplating the fact that the "hijackings", planes, videos, and many of the victims
on 9/11 were a major fraud, just like the rest of the official government conspiracy theory? It seems rather obvious to me that this is indeed the case.

We still don't know exactly what happened on 9/11, so it would be wise to keep an open mind about everything.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I have an unfair advantage. One of my co-workers is married to a Navy officer who was in the Pentagon Navy Annex, about a half mile west and uphill from the Pentagon. At the time of the crash he was in a meeting in a room with a window facing the Pentagon. They heard the sound of a plane coming so low that they thought for a moment it would and on them. They rushed to the window and saw the jetliner aim straight for the center of the nearest side of the Pentagon. It was a passenger jetliner and apparently the pilot had used the thrusters for maximum impact.

The wings of the jet lopped off the tops of some street lamps as it approached the Pentagon, and just before it made impact one of the wingtips gauged a line in the lawn. The Pentagon is just about a quarter-mile north of a major Interstate highway junction, so there were plenty of drivers on those highways that saw the crash, and the Washington Post had no problem finding a dozen or so.

The landing gear of the plane - the most solid single part - was thrown all the way through the Pentagon into the center courtyard.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-09-01   10:46:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Shoonra, Original_Intent, *9-11* (#1)

Shoonra: The wings of the jet lopped off the tops of some street lamps as it approached the Pentagon

Jump to Original_Intent's post at #112: Interesting discussion on the Pilots for 911 Truth Forum here.

Interesting comment there on Page 1:

If these wings were to hit light poles I don't think it would have done them the world of good at all.
In fact it would have converted the aircraft 'more into a shorter winged projectile' for the last part of it's journey, before smacking into things in front of the wall.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-01   23:43:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: GreyLmist (#114) (Edited)

If these wings were to hit light poles I don't think it would have done them the world of good at all.

In fact it would have converted the aircraft 'more into a shorter winged projectile' for the last part of it's journey...

speaking as a helicopter pilot who's mowed down acres of trees, through ineptitude, overenthusiasm, or necessity, i think the "pilot" who made that comment needs to look into the construction of airliner wings vs light poles.

meanwhile...

america drinks and goes home

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   23:58:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: lead.and.lag (#115)

speaking as a helicopter pilot who's mowed down acres of trees, through ineptitude, overenthusiasm, or necessity, i think the "pilot" who made that comment needs to look into the construction of airliner wings vs light poles.

And the helos were undamaged and as flight-stable as before? You can probably agree that fixed wing aircraft and helo rotor blades act differently. We're not talking about the jet wings shearing off tree branches or trunks with some flex to them. We're talking about the wing's metal impacting immobile metal objects at very high speed. Suppose your helo blades had jammed and they hit lamp posts as the aircraft was moving forward, even at a much lower speed. Might the blades have broken off or been mangled so as to make continued flight erratic or improbable?

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   0:41:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: GreyLmist (#117) (Edited)

i exaggerated when i said "acres of trees".

you got to screw up really bad to damage the aerodynamic properties of a rotor blade... the saving grace being, unless the trees are horrendously tall, you're close enough to the ground to survive the crash.

wings and rotor blades have to survive wind forces approaching or exceeding the speed of sound... light poles dont.

i dont know how much rotor blade you'd have to lose to put the rotor system so far out of balance that the lelicopter would shake itself to pieces, but, after observing the mechanics' efforts to balance and track rotor systems, i'd guess it would be a matter of inches, maybe less.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   0:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: lead.and.lag (#118)

Do you think the wings of a plane could fly through a lamp post cemented in the ground and the aircraft not crash right there or go careening wildly off its flight path?

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   1:09:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: GreyLmist (#119) (Edited)

light poles are designed to snap off on impact... the cement on the ground has nothing to do with it.

it's a matter of design... wings are designed to withstand 600 mph winds, light poles arent... they're designed to snap off when hit by a drunk on a bicycle.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   1:13:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: lead.and.lag (#120) (Edited)

light poles are designed to snap off on impact... the cement on the ground has nothing to do with it.

it's a matter of design... wings are designed to withstand 600 mph winds, light poles arent... they're designed to snap off when hit by a drunk on a bicycle.

I'm not talking about wind speed or the effect on the light poles. Compare the alleged plane impacts to your analogy of a drunk on a bicycle if you want to. How many light poles do you think the drunk could fell with their bicycle and still keep traveling on their course as if they hadn't done any such thing even once?

Edited to reword second sentence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   1:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: GreyLmist (#121)

if the wing was designed to withstand 600 mph winds, and the light pole was designed to snap, and the airplane weighs maybe 250,000 pounds, i'd guess that the airplane wouldnt much notice that it hit a light pole.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   1:38:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: lead.and.lag (#122) (Edited)

Let's Roll Fourum: Plane Crash in Houston-Hit a LIGHTPOLE!!!

RegularGuy: Amazing how the smaller Gulfstream plane just chopped the top of the lightpole off, where the Pentagon flying object knocked the entire pole off its mounting, without being deformed at all.

Observer: the lights at the pentagon aren't just any ordinary lights...they are pentalights.

click2houston.com article: Official: Crashed Jet Was Set To Pick Up Ex-Pres. Bush

POSTED: Monday, November 22, 2004

Excerpts:

The former president, his spokesman Tom Freschette and a secret service agent were scheduled to travel to Ecuador for a business conference. They did not board the plane and their trip has been canceled, Freschette said.

[Jack Williams, a district chief with the Houston Fire Department] said the twin-engine Gulfstream jet, arriving from Dallas Love Field, apparently clipped a tall light tower at a Beltway 8 toll plaza, shearing off a wing. He said the severed wing rests near the base of the tower.

The district fire chief said firefighters found a trail of debris stretching about 1,000 feet from the light tower into a field north of the toll road.

No drivers on the tollway were injured, but one car was hit with wing debris while another was hit with jet fuel, according to Williams.

"There was a bright flash of light. Debris started raining down all over the road, hitting the car and the windshield," John Kaufmann said.

Workers at the toll plaza told officials they saw the plane clip the light pole and burst into flames.

Edited to shorten number of excerpts.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   2:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: GreyLmist (#123)

what i'm meaning to say, is this:

once the messengers have proven themselves to be servants of the powers-that- be, you're justified in shooting the messengers.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   2:31:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: lead.and.lag (#125)

once the messengers have proven themselves to be servants of the powers-that- be, you're justified in shooting the messengers.

I could have posted the same article without referencing that controversial site and the comments there to avoid static but that would have been stealthy. Now, Ready- Aim-Fire at the article, if you feel like it. Ready-Fire-Aim at a secondary link source for it is ungood.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   3:04:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: GreyLmist (#128)

i went to vegas because there are lots of helicopter tour companies there.

i went to see them all, but they smelled me, they knew, somehow, that i didnt give a shit about flying anymore.

that loser stink is attaching to anyone who tries to confuse the 9/11 issue, and people can smell it.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   3:08:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: lead.and.lag (#129)

You're stalling and bombastically so -- like you're incensed. Why? Are you one of "Rivero's Rangers" over at whatreallyhappened.com who are instructed not to question the guv-issued line about the Pentagon on 9/11 or what?

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-02   4:06:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: GreyLmist (#130) (Edited)

...but i got to say that rivero's program is interesting... he vilifies israel while adhering to exxon's denial of global warming.

what the hell are we sposed the thnk of that, seeing as how exx on joined up with the israeli americans of the AEI?

is that evidence that the israelis, and jews in general, have been sucked in to being goats?

what's new?

massive evidence that jews are smarter than the rest of us?

not likely.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-02   4:30:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#133. To: lead.and.lag (#132) (Edited)

Are you a global warmist? I was watching a modern day documentary recently about an Italian blimp that crashed at the North Pole back in the 1930's - the Italia. It showed footage of the watery conditions of the season even in that region, which impaired rescue attempts.

Edited for emphasis on the season.

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