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Title: Almost 10 years on, 9/11 conspiracy theories abound
Source: Agence France-Presse
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... 11-conspiracy-theories-abound/
Published: Sep 1, 2011
Author: staff
Post Date: 2011-09-01 14:20:55 by Ada
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Views: 218
Comments: 16

For some Americans, the deaths of nearly 3,000 people was not the scariest thing about 9/11. It was realizing who carried out the attacks: yes, the American government.

Defying countless official and non-governmental enquiries, media reporting, and often common sense, a significant number of people fervently disbelieve that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda sent 19 hijackers to execute the September 11, 2001 massacre.

Instead, elements within George W. Bush's administration -- or perhaps Israeli agents -- used pre-placed explosives and missiles to blow up the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

A relatively milder version is that the US government didn't actually blow up its citizens, but knew full well the attacks were coming, then did nothing to stop them.

In both cases, the reasoning is that Bush's team sought to justify the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as a domestic clampdown on civil liberties.

Wild as they might sound, the conspiracy theorists are not just some tiny fringe.

A 2006 Scripps Howard poll found 36 percent of Americans believed in some form of government 9/11 conspiracy. Other polls have found widespread support not only in the Arab world, but also in France, where a book called "Horrifying Fraud" sold 200,000 copies shortly after 9/11. Advertisement

Even a decade later, the conspiracy movement is alive and kicking in the United States.

Groups such as Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, or Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, see themselves as serious researchers exposing perhaps the biggest cover-up in US history.

In fact the real loonies, says David Ray Griffin, author of "The New Pearl Harbor" and "Cognitive Infiltration," are those who believe the government version about the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

"If we define miracles as a violation of scientific principles, in particular the principles of physics and chemistry, there are about a dozen miracles in the official story," he told KPFA, a liberal radio station in California.

A summary of the leading theories is contained in "Loose Change," a homemade documentary viewed nearly 125 million times on Google and some 30 million worldwide on YouTube, according to director Dylan Avery.

Splicing news footage and interviews, all set to a catchy music beat, "Loose Change" collates and expands on all the urban legends about 9/11.

For example:

-- The Twin Towers could not have collapsed from airplane impact alone.

-- The astonishingly rapid collapse of World Trade Center tower 7, despite not being hit by a plane, bore the hallmarks of professional demolition.

-- Wall Street trading on stocks directly affected by the disaster showed some people knew in advance about what was coming.

-- A US missile, not American Airlines Flight 77, smashed into the Pentagon.

-- United Airlines Flight 93 did not crash in a Pennsylvania field, but vanished, perhaps after being shot down by a fighter jet.

The United States has long been fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

In this parallel world, John F. Kennedy was assassinated by anyone ranging from the CIA to Cuban exiles. The Moon landing pictures were taken in a studio, while the US government is covering up evidence of UFOs. And American GIs are still held in bamboo cages in Vietnam.

The most recent addition is the "birther" movement, which claims Barack Obama was not born on US soil -- and therefore is an illegitimate president.

The conspiracy theorists remain a minority and face the scorn of the counter-conspiracy movement on websites like www.debunking911.com and www.screwloosechange.blogspot.com, which claims to prove wrong almost every statement made during the film.

But Kathy Olmsted, who teaches history at University of California Davis, said extreme mistrust of government is understandable.

After all, the Bush administration spent huge energy promoting its own false conspiracy theories about Saddam Hussein, claiming that the Iraqi leader possessed weapons of mass destruction and insinuating that he was linked to 9/11.

"The Bush administration did certainly twist the truth, if not outright lie during the Iraq war," Olmsted said. "So people say, 'how do we know the truth about 9/11'?"

Conspiracy theories may also aid people still struggling to comprehend the shock of what happened ten years ago.

"It was difficult for people to believe that 19 men armed with box cutters could cause such damage and kill so many people," said Professor Rich Hanley, who lectures on the media and popular culture at Quinnipiac University.

"It plays to how shocking this was to the American psyche."

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

"It was difficult for people to believe that 19 men armed with box cutters could cause such damage and kill so many people," said Professor Rich Hanley, who lectures on the media and popular culture at Quinnipiac University.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-09-01   14:23:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve (#1) (Edited)

you gotta give ada credit for her persistence.

too bad, because, once you got the basic pattern down, everything else falls into place, which means ada is pissing against the wind.

but then, maybe she subscribes to the "we're an empire now, and we create our own reality" school of thought.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   14:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

For some Americans, the deaths of nearly 3,000 people was not the scariest thing about 9/11. It was realizing who carried out the attacks: yes, the American government.

This is exactly what the Federal reserve and Israel want people to think if they are going to think 9/11 was a false flag. They don't want people to blame the real masterminds of 9/11, so they shift the blame to the US government. Sure there were traitors within the government, but the government as a whole did not do 9/11, ISRAEL DID!

Alex Jones is on the air for one purpose only, to shift the blame away from Israel!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-01   14:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lead.and.lag (#2)

www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_media.html

The 9/11 WTC Collapses: Questions the Media Won't Address

[A] = Article contains audio [V] = Article contains video Unaddressed FACTS:

* Is it pure coincidence that FEMA was in New York on September 10? Why did they deny this fact? www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html [A]

* Why were staff in WTC 2 instructed to stay in the building following Flight 11's impact into WTC 1? www.whatreallyhappened.com/jackasses.html

* How was it known that the World Trade Center was going to collapse? Why were only a select few told? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html [V]

* Where were the 800°C infernos in the buildings? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm [A] [V]

* Why didn't firefighters in the impact area of WTC 2 report a blazing inferno or failing trusses before the building's collapse? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_firefighters.html [A]

* Why did firefighters report bombs in the WTC buildings? Why did firefighters report explosions before the collapses? www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html [A]

* Why did white smoke appear at the base of WTC 1 roughly 10 seconds before its collapse? www.whatreallyhappened.com/shake.html [V]

* Larry Silverstein said of WTC 7 "the smartest thing to do is pull it" (i.e. demolish it), and all evidence points to this occurring. When and why were demolition charges placed in the building? www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html [A] [V]

* Why was the investigation into the WTC collapses an underfunded farce? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fema_911.html

Unaddressed questions:

* If WTC 1 was constructed with weak trusses and weak bolts then how did it withstand the impact of Flight 11? www.whatreallyhappened.com/trusstheory.html

* Why didn't structural debris fall from the burning towers? Why did trusses in WTC 2 spontaneously fail across entire floors? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_trusses.html [V]

* How did WTC 1's structure remain intact as it collapsed? whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html [V]

* How could conventional fires produce temperatures in excess of 700°C in the WTC wreckage? www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.htm

* How could conventional fires in the WTC wreckage burn for three months? www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fires_911.html

Wild conspiracy theory?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-09-01   14:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

John F. Kennedy was assassinated by...

...israel, because JFK was committed to non-proliferation of nuke weapons, and israel thought nukes would ensure the "never again"

Israel began actively investigating the nuclear option from its earliest days. In 1949, HEMED GIMMEL a special unit of the IDF's Science Corps, began a two-year geological survey of the Negev desert with an eye toward the discovery of uranium reserves. Although no significant sources of uranium were found, recoverable amounts were located in phosphate deposits.

The program took another step forward with the creation of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) in 1952. Its chairman, Ernst David Bergmann, had long advocated an Israeli bomb as the best way to ensure "that we shall never again be led as lambs to the slaughter."

Nuclear Weapons israel

then we run up against the problem of ensuring a "never again" when it never happened in the first place.

so the holyhoax and israel's nukes and the never again are all part of the same tapestry of lies and atrocities.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   14:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lead.and.lag (#5)

John F. Kennedy was assassinated by

...israel, because JFK was committed to non-proliferation of nuke weapons, and israel thought nukes would ensure the "never again"

I'm sure that was one of the contributing reasons, but not the primary one. The primary reason JFK was assassinated was because he had started issuing real US dollar bills again with no debt attached to them. The Fed knew once they caught on they were threw. They had him killed and the before LBJ even got back to DC from Dallas that day he signed an executive order ending the issuing of US dollar bills.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-01   14:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#0)

"It was difficult for people to believe that 19 men armed with box cutters could cause such damage and kill so many people," said Professor Rich Hanley, who lectures on the media and popular culture at Quinnipiac University.

Well hell's bells, what about the "pilots" in the group of alleged hijackers who couldn't fly CESSNA'S? I think it would be a safe bet to say that if you can't fly a Cessna well enough to rent one you can't do tricks with big commercial planes that look like well-trained pilots in stunt planes. The whole thing just didn't pass the smell test.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-01   14:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lead.and.lag (#2)

911 Top 500 Questions

911 - THE BASIC QUESTIONS; 1. Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they; had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks? ...
www.rense.com/general24/t500.htm - 74k -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-09-01   14:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#6) (Edited)

The primary reason JFK was assassinated was...

so was the Fed composed of zionists when JFK was killed?

the JFK assassination was the formal change-of-cmmand ceremony, wasnt it?

JFK was the last president who attempted to defy israel, and look what happened to him... the israelis were humiliated by JFK's predecessor, eisenhower, and they did something about it.

after the change-of-command ceremony, what happened?

the USS liberty incident, and JFK's successor covered it up.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   14:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#0)

Defying countless official and non-governmental enquiries, media reporting, and often common sense, a significant number of people fervently disbelieve that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda sent 19 hijackers to execute the September 11, 2001 massacre.

I guess all of those architects, engineers, scientists, and even military officials are all just a bunch of KOOKS, eh?

Yeah, instead we're supposed to believe known liars such as Sean Hannity and his crew along with the other countless shillsters who spew disinfo and wild tales each and every day...

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-01   15:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lead.and.lag (#9)

so was the Fed composed of zionists when JFK was killed?

Yes, it was since it started in 1913. The Federal Reserve was not the first central bank in the USA owned by them, it is just the latest. I don't deny JFK wanting to stop Israel from building a nuclear bomb was a reason for him being killed, I just don't think it was the number one reason.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-01   15:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#11)

I don't deny JFK wanting to stop Israel from building a nuclear bomb was a reason for him being killed, I just don't think it was the number one reason.

Well they wanted their Vietnam War as well...

Not to mention they wanted the "Cold War" to continue unabated, and JFK was trying to diffuse it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-01   15:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#11)

I don't deny JFK wanting to stop Israel from building a nuclear bomb was a reason for him being killed, I just don't think it was the number one reason.

yeah, i can see that.

nobody knows, when it comes to the crunch, how cohesive the tribe is... it could be that different factions of the tribe have different reasons for doing the same thing.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   15:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lead.and.lag (#2)

Stirring the pot from time to time.. .not to mention preaching to the choir.

Ada  posted on  2011-09-01   15:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ada (#14)

hope you got waterproof covers for your shoes... nasty winds, with climate change, and all.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-09-01   16:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve, lead.and.lag (#4) (Edited)

150+ 9/11 Smoking Guns

Found in the Mainstream Media
 
 
PLANNED BEFORE, FUTURE IDEAS...
PREPARATION...
PRIOR KNOWLEDGE...
DECOYING, STAND DOWN...
WTC ATTACK...
  1. WTC surveillance tapes missing. (Fort Wayne Sentinel/AP)
PENTAGON ATTACK...
PENNSYLVANIA CRASH...
ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN...
COVER-UP...
CULPRITS...
MOTIVES...
Afghanistan
Iraq
PATSIES...
  1. Dec 2001, Osama bin Laden reportedly dies. (FOX, Mirror UK, NY Times)

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-01   21:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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