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Title: Is living off the Grid now a crime?
Source: offgridsurvival.com
URL Source: http://offgridsurvival.com/livingoffthegridcrime/
Published: Sep 4, 2011
Author: not attributed
Post Date: 2011-09-04 22:50:26 by farmfriend
Keywords: None
Views: 490
Comments: 28

Is living off the Grid now a crime?

Apparently living off the grid, off the land and without government assistance is now a crime that can land you in jail and cause you to lose your home.

Government officials across the country are forming so called “nuisance abatement teams” to intimidate people into giving up their land or conforming to the governments demands and hooking back into the grid. Counties across the country are actually jailing people for living the way they want to live.

I was alerted to this video by a reader and was troubled and sickened by what the poor people in the California Desert are being forced to deal with. From being threatened with jail time if they don’t hook back into the grid to being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes, the people in the deserts of Los Angeles County are being terrorized by their government.

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)

the men in first video responded well, lived to tell the story ... after 22 years of never asking for help or causing any trouble, this kinda thing would've ended badly for me, and at least two of them ...


~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~

Amandil  posted on  2011-09-04   23:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#0)

Paddlefeet and I had a wind/solar hybrid energy system installed 5-6 years ago on our farm. I have a gas only stove. No dryer. Solar hot water and we heat with wood. We stay grid connected in case we need extra energy(an air conditioner is nice), so we pay a minimal monthly electric bill. We also have generator backup. We have been investigated by homeland security. I'm not sure why they see us as a threat. I simply want to be self sufficient. What's the threat in that?

octavia  posted on  2011-09-04   23:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: octavia, independent types, 4 (#2)

I'm not sure why they see us as a threat. I simply want to be self sufficient. What's the threat in that?

You and PF are not dependent.

I cannot believe I'm posting this stuff, but here goes - forgive me -

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-04   23:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: octavia (#2)

I simply want to be self sufficient. What's the threat in that?

There is no threat to a sane and benevolent government, but to one that is operating on a covert control paradigm anything which increases individual independence from state control is a threat. Because that allows you to be independent and not under control. The electric grid is part of the overall control scheme and on several levels.

1. As long as you are dependent on the grid the threat to shut off the power is viable threat to enforce compliance.

2. A person who is energy independent also has the potential, if they are not already, to be food independent. That is another control mechanism.

3. The electrical wiring in your household is a conduit that can be used for a variety of purposes, but by heterodyning mood control frequencies on the AC electrical signal they can literally insert control frequencies, that radiate outward from your wiring because of the emf field generated by the alternating current, which are transmitted into your household over the grid and into your home via the wiring. Now there are ways around it. By filtering your power you can strip off any signal piggy backed on the AC but that requires purchasing the equipment to do it. Another way is to convert to a DC system and running the AC through a rectifier which converts the AC to DC. Either way blocks the frequencies being heterodyned. Another way is to purchase sheathing that goes around the wires, and is then grounded, thus effectively blocking any electric fields.

The bottom line is that it all breaks down to c-o-n-t-r-o-l sssssitizen.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   0:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Please post more, or link, to info on blocking AC control signals.

Thanks much.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-05   0:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#0)

He has a good point, how could his neighbours be bothered by him when he has no neighbours within 10 miles of his home?

I seriously doubt anyone complained about his home.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-05   0:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend, *libertarians*, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2011-09-05   1:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod, Octavia (#5)

Here's a link to a place that specializes in it: Magnetic Field Shielding

I used to have more than the one but unfortunately it is all on a dead hard drive.

If you scroll down near the bottom of the page they now sell preshielded wiring as well as other shielding. Depending upon how much you want to reduce field strength you could just install shielded wiring or shielded wiring AND put another shield over the top.

The thing to remember, or think about in shielding, is that emf's (electromagnetic fields) have known physical properties. So, blocking any type of emf whether it be heterodyned control frequencies or simple electromagnetic pollution is going to be the same. To some degree it comes down to how much do you want to pay to achieve what level of performance.

Now blocking is one strategy and another strategy is to simply flat remove the hostile signal and that would require filtering and/or converting to a DC system. It is the AC signal which allows the heterodyning of other frequencies. It is like an FM Radio signal. You have a carrier wave, which is the transmitted broadcast signal, and heterodyned on that carrier wave is the actual information which your radio receiver is designed to remove from the carrier and convert into something intelligible to the human ear. So, in transmitting control frequencies the 60 cycle AC power is the carrier wave and the other information is piggybacked on it.

So, putting in some form of filter that shunts to ground everything other than the pure AC sine wave would also get rid of the hostile signal. However, that still leaves the emf field of the AC signal which can also be accessed by transmitting a signal that bypasses the grid and comes in directly on the wire through the walls. And yes that can be done. So, really the two most viable are blocking or converting to DC. DC since it is a steady level voltage and current does not provide a carrier wave. However the wires are still there and can have an external signal imposed on them.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   2:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod, All (#8)

Doing more research:

Here's another:

emfshielding.org - looks like some good and interesting information. No endorsement - I just found it and am looking at it.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   2:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: octavia (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-05   4:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-05   4:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton, octavia, paddlefeet, All (#10)

unveiling some new chapter in nuclear fission

24 hour Gold Alchemy process at power plants:

Watch at 13:05 - 17:24 here: Ancient Aliens S03E04 Aliens and Temples of Gold.

Doubtful that whoever has actually been charged $200 an hour to produce new gold in small or large quantities. If everybody went off the grid, making the power plants obsolete, no doubt there would go their cover as electricity manufacturing facilities only.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-05   11:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#8)

a DC system

Iraq had a DC electrical system. It was frowned upon by certain moguls and control freaks. Then it was invaded.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-09-05   11:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

Man, the stuff's expensive!

Is it possible to wrap the actual wiring throughout the house in something?

Yeah, the stuff does run a few pennies. In answer to your question I have seen a sheathing material that you slide around the outside of the wiring like a tube, but I don't recall where I saw it. It has been a couple years since I last did much research on EMF mitigation. As I learned about likely field effects created by the deadly "Smart Meters" it got me to thinking about it again.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   12:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GreyLmist (#13)

Iraq had a DC electrical system. It was frowned upon by certain moguls and control freaks. Then it was invaded.

It is more difficult to snoop over a DC circuit - no carrier wave. Intelligence agencies frown on DC - it makes their job more difficult.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   18:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

Oh, and while not nearly as effective, but it does work some, is to line the interior of your walls with chicken wire fencing and then connect it to ground. It is a lot less expensive though and is better than nothing.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-05   18:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

If ever in our world history there was a time to truly take a moral stock of things based upon what is unfolding around us spiritually insofar as the writing being on the wall, today is it. In that regard it is fascinating.

I wish you would expand on this.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-09-06   20:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: angK (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-07   1:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#18)

Well, this perspective will be driven by your understanding of the spiritual nature of life.

My vantage point is one of belief in God and in Christ based on what I've learned over a lifetime. Frankly, w/o that life makes little sense. There's no more reason for the good to be better or more moral than the evil w/o such a basis of belief.

I am so sorry to be so long in replying to this. I have been up at the cottage. We have been planning some renovations and without my husbands knowledge I have arranged for our water to be brought in from the river, which is quite clean and potable. It is my understanding that I can have a pipe that is wrapped inside or out with an electrical wire to keep the pipe from freezing in the winter. This is my first step in going off the grid.

Now, to the point at hand!

My understanding of the spiritual nature of life is that we are all spiritual beings with the capacity for both good and evil. It is the souls purpose or journey in this world to express its enormous potential for good. It is my belief that religion, which is a control mechanism, has inhibited and repressed mans spiritual nature.

I know this sounds rather new agey, but please bear with me.

Your belief that "There's no more reason for the good to be better or more moral than the evil w/o such a basis of belief" stems from the obscene dogma of original sin and its twin cancerous tenet that man is evil and a sinner.

The Satanic forces we face to-day would not exist if we understood our spiritual nature, and resisted the "canned" version/substitute for spirituality presented by the institution of religion.

You say,

"Anyway, against the backdrop of Biblical and world history, I believe that we are in tumultuous times and on the precipice of cataclysmic times. In that regard I find it fascinating.

As well, the world was not kind to those ultimately believing in Jesus as savior in other times like these in past history, so why would they be this time? Short answer: they won't be."

First, we cannot trust Biblical and world history. Too much as been destroyed, rewritten and hidden away by the very institution that you hold in such high regard. It is true we may be on the verge of tumultuous times and on the precipice of cataclysmic times and if Jesus as Savior did not save us under similar circumstances in the past, there is no reason to believe He will do so now.

It has nothing to do with the world being kind, or not kind. It has everything to do with one religion seeking top status and power over other religions. This is what is occurring in the world to-day, even though those who wish to be the top dogs are just using the name of religion to incite hate and war among those they wish to conquer.

If mankind does not rise to the responsibility of his own spiritual accountability by the end of this age, it is true that we are on the precipice of an ELE.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-09-19   17:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend (#0)

I have been following this. THis is incredibly aggressive fascist action by the authorities down there. They should be fought vigorously and backed off.

THere should be no room in this country for this sort of crap.

"The United States today is like a cruise ship on the Niagara River upstream of the most spectacular falls in North America. A few people on board have begun to pick up a slight hiss in the background, to observe a faint haze of mist in the air or on their glasses, to note that the river current seems to be running slightly faster. But no one yet seems to have realized that it is almost too late to head for shore." -- Historian and author Chalmers Johnson"

Ferret  posted on  2011-09-19   20:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret (#20)

we are a communist police state.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-19   21:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: angK (#19)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-19   21:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

Jesus' is not a religion, he's a person that raised from the dead.

Jesus' entire focus was people living for the afterlife.

Isn't that what religion tells you to believe? I believe in God, Eric, because that is what resonates within my heart. Not because some book tells me so. To live for the afterlife is a cop-out. When we accept some spiritual responsibility for this life and our fellow travelers, the afterlife will take care of itself, and be assured.

I believe in an afterlife because I believe in mankind's inate goodness, and that there must be some purpose in life. If it is not the soul's quest to achieve some improvement, and capacity for love in this life, through its experiences, and challenges here, then why are we here?

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-09-19   23:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: angK (#23)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-20   11:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#24)

I will also say that I believe that either, A, there is little hope for mankind if he did not, and B, that if he didn't, then the rest must be left to the four winds and we have no clue or idea what the truth/reality is.

Therein lies the whole crux of the matter. It is a brilliant double bind situation that dis-empowers mankind and strips us of our own spiritual responsibilities.

If, in fact, Jesus was just an enlightened human being, possessing uncommon wisdom and compassion, consider how much more inspiring the message would have been, without all the hocus-pocus, miracles, and demands for worship, and money. Always more money!

Jesus represented the best that we can be spiritually, so we need not consider that God left us to hang out to dry. That is the clue and the idea of what the truth/reality actually is.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-09-20   16:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: angK (#25)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-20   19:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton (#26)

My first statement which you disagree with so wholeheartedly, because it runs counter to Jesus'life and example was not in reference to Jesus at all. I was responding to YOUR belief as follows:

"I will also say that I believe that either, A, there is little hope for mankind if he did not, and B, that if he didn't, then the rest must be left to the four winds and we have no clue or idea what the truth/reality is."

My criticism of that belief is that it abandons all of yours and my spiritual responsibilities, and that is the problem I have with religions as institutions of control.

Like many of our discussions, it seems we agree on some points, but in this case it seems we are unable to separate the religious from the spiritual. I place the whole Jesus story into the religious category -i.e.- the institutions of superstitions.

If Jesus existed, and there is no historical evidence, outside of the bible, that he did, then I am inclined to place him in the category of an highly evolved spiritual man. Jesus did not perform miracles; He was the miracle. Our failure to realize this is what has held us back for 2,000 years. His example is the only message we need take from his life.

All references to re-incarnation, except a few obscure passages, were deleted from the bible at the council of Nicea in 325 AD. It was replaced by the obscenities of Original sin and the evil nature of mankind to explain away the sufferings and vagaries of life which the concept of Karma once explained so well. Without Original sin and our sinful nature, what need do we have for a Saviour to die for our sins?

If re-incarnation still remained in the bible, the promise of everlasting life would make sense, though re-incarnation carries its own consequences, retributions, and checks and balances.

There are many mysteries to be revealed yet, and I believe that the key to these mysteries lie in the heart of the Vatican library. By the way, it was not Jesus I was referring to as wanting money, but the churches.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-09-20   21:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: angK (#27)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-22   1:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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