Title: Is living off the Grid now a crime? Source:
offgridsurvival.com URL Source:http://offgridsurvival.com/livingoffthegridcrime/ Published:Sep 4, 2011 Author:not attributed Post Date:2011-09-04 22:50:26 by farmfriend Keywords:None Views:483 Comments:28
Is living off the Grid now a crime?
Apparently living off the grid, off the land and without government assistance is now a crime that can land you in jail and cause you to lose your home.
Government officials across the country are forming so called “nuisance abatement teams” to intimidate people into giving up their land or conforming to the governments demands and hooking back into the grid. Counties across the country are actually jailing people for living the way they want to live.
I was alerted to this video by a reader and was troubled and sickened by what the poor people in the California Desert are being forced to deal with. From being threatened with jail time if they don’t hook back into the grid to being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes, the people in the deserts of Los Angeles County are being terrorized by their government.
Paddlefeet and I had a wind/solar hybrid energy system installed 5-6 years ago on our farm. I have a gas only stove. No dryer. Solar hot water and we heat with wood. We stay grid connected in case we need extra energy(an air conditioner is nice), so we pay a minimal monthly electric bill. We also have generator backup. We have been investigated by homeland security. I'm not sure why they see us as a threat. I simply want to be self sufficient. What's the threat in that?
If ever in our world history there was a time to truly take a moral stock of things based upon what is unfolding around us spiritually insofar as the writing being on the wall, today is it. In that regard it is fascinating.
Well, this perspective will be driven by your understanding of the spiritual nature of life.
My vantage point is one of belief in God and in Christ based on what I've learned over a lifetime. Frankly, w/o that life makes little sense. There's no more reason for the good to be better or more moral than the evil w/o such a basis of belief.
I am so sorry to be so long in replying to this. I have been up at the cottage. We have been planning some renovations and without my husbands knowledge I have arranged for our water to be brought in from the river, which is quite clean and potable. It is my understanding that I can have a pipe that is wrapped inside or out with an electrical wire to keep the pipe from freezing in the winter. This is my first step in going off the grid.
Now, to the point at hand!
My understanding of the spiritual nature of life is that we are all spiritual beings with the capacity for both good and evil. It is the souls purpose or journey in this world to express its enormous potential for good. It is my belief that religion, which is a control mechanism, has inhibited and repressed mans spiritual nature.
I know this sounds rather new agey, but please bear with me.
Your belief that "There's no more reason for the good to be better or more moral than the evil w/o such a basis of belief" stems from the obscene dogma of original sin and its twin cancerous tenet that man is evil and a sinner.
The Satanic forces we face to-day would not exist if we understood our spiritual nature, and resisted the "canned" version/substitute for spirituality presented by the institution of religion.
You say,
"Anyway, against the backdrop of Biblical and world history, I believe that we are in tumultuous times and on the precipice of cataclysmic times. In that regard I find it fascinating.
As well, the world was not kind to those ultimately believing in Jesus as savior in other times like these in past history, so why would they be this time? Short answer: they won't be."
First, we cannot trust Biblical and world history. Too much as been destroyed, rewritten and hidden away by the very institution that you hold in such high regard. It is true we may be on the verge of tumultuous times and on the precipice of cataclysmic times and if Jesus as Savior did not save us under similar circumstances in the past, there is no reason to believe He will do so now.
It has nothing to do with the world being kind, or not kind. It has everything to do with one religion seeking top status and power over other religions. This is what is occurring in the world to-day, even though those who wish to be the top dogs are just using the name of religion to incite hate and war among those they wish to conquer.
If mankind does not rise to the responsibility of his own spiritual accountability by the end of this age, it is true that we are on the precipice of an ELE.
Jesus' is not a religion, he's a person that raised from the dead.
Jesus' entire focus was people living for the afterlife.
Isn't that what religion tells you to believe? I believe in God, Eric, because that is what resonates within my heart. Not because some book tells me so. To live for the afterlife is a cop-out. When we accept some spiritual responsibility for this life and our fellow travelers, the afterlife will take care of itself, and be assured.
I believe in an afterlife because I believe in mankind's inate goodness, and that there must be some purpose in life. If it is not the soul's quest to achieve some improvement, and capacity for love in this life, through its experiences, and challenges here, then why are we here?
I will also say that I believe that either, A, there is little hope for mankind if he did not, and B, that if he didn't, then the rest must be left to the four winds and we have no clue or idea what the truth/reality is.
Therein lies the whole crux of the matter. It is a brilliant double bind situation that dis-empowers mankind and strips us of our own spiritual responsibilities.
If, in fact, Jesus was just an enlightened human being, possessing uncommon wisdom and compassion, consider how much more inspiring the message would have been, without all the hocus-pocus, miracles, and demands for worship, and money. Always more money!
Jesus represented the best that we can be spiritually, so we need not consider that God left us to hang out to dry. That is the clue and the idea of what the truth/reality actually is.
My first statement which you disagree with so wholeheartedly, because it runs counter to Jesus'life and example was not in reference to Jesus at all. I was responding to YOUR belief as follows:
"I will also say that I believe that either, A, there is little hope for mankind if he did not, and B, that if he didn't, then the rest must be left to the four winds and we have no clue or idea what the truth/reality is."
My criticism of that belief is that it abandons all of yours and my spiritual responsibilities, and that is the problem I have with religions as institutions of control.
Like many of our discussions, it seems we agree on some points, but in this case it seems we are unable to separate the religious from the spiritual. I place the whole Jesus story into the religious category -i.e.- the institutions of superstitions.
If Jesus existed, and there is no historical evidence, outside of the bible, that he did, then I am inclined to place him in the category of an highly evolved spiritual man. Jesus did not perform miracles; He was the miracle. Our failure to realize this is what has held us back for 2,000 years. His example is the only message we need take from his life.
All references to re-incarnation, except a few obscure passages, were deleted from the bible at the council of Nicea in 325 AD. It was replaced by the obscenities of Original sin and the evil nature of mankind to explain away the sufferings and vagaries of life which the concept of Karma once explained so well. Without Original sin and our sinful nature, what need do we have for a Saviour to die for our sins?
If re-incarnation still remained in the bible, the promise of everlasting life would make sense, though re-incarnation carries its own consequences, retributions, and checks and balances.
There are many mysteries to be revealed yet, and I believe that the key to these mysteries lie in the heart of the Vatican library. By the way, it was not Jesus I was referring to as wanting money, but the churches.