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Title: Volunteer firefighters turned away from Texas fires
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.gonzalescannon.com/node/6410
Published: Sep 7, 2011
Author: Dave Mundy
Post Date: 2011-09-07 18:15:16 by titorite
Keywords: None
Views: 134
Comments: 5

From the "you gotta be fucking kidding me "files!

"BASTROP — Firefighting-trained volunteers from around the state converged on Bastrop and Smithville Tuesday to lend a hand to the beleaguered local firefighters battling the Bastrop County Complex Fire — only to be sent away as federal officials arrived at the scene and took command, apparently because local officials never made a formal request for volunteers.

“We were at the station getting set up into strike teams, and this guy came up and said that the U.S. Forest Service had ‘assumed control of the situation, and that ‘If you don’t have a vehicle that squirts water, go home,’” said Gordon Greer of Kirbyville, who drove all night Monday to arrive in the town beset by the worst wildfire in Texas history. “You’ve got guys who had driven all night long from Corpus Christi and Brownsville on their own dime, and they turned them away. He was really a (bleep) about it.

“There was a whole line of beige cars that came in this morning, tinted windows and such,” Greer said. "

A spokesperson with the U.S. National Interagency Incident Center, Jennifer Jones, confirmed that federal group of several different agencies would be assuming command in Bastrop County around 1 p.m. Tuesday, but had not done so when the firefighting volunteers were told to leave. April Saginor with the Texas Forest Service said her agency had not given any such order, to her knowledge, but promised to provide an update later in the day.

The question is apparently one of protocol, however.

The Bastrop County Office of Emergency Management announced via its Facebook account Tuesday afternoon that “Any fire mutual aid requests would always come through (and to) Local, State and National fire service and emergency leadership. This message sent as per Texas Fire Chiefs, TIFMAS, IAFC, USFA and FEMA. If you are a fire fighter wanting to volunteer you have to be activated by the National Forestry Service first.”

The Texas Forest Service issued a statement Tuesday evening that it is not requesting firefighters/retired firefighters to report to Central Texas.

"If a person wants to fight fire they can: 1. Apply for a full-time Texas Forest Service position. We are not hiring seasonals as we currently do not have the time to hire, train and certify them. 2. Join a local fire department. 3. Members of local departments should not self-dispatch. Have your fire chief contact TIFMAS Coordinator Joe Florentino at jflorentino@littleelm.org"

Several of the volunteers voiced their displeasure, however, at federal agents taking charge at the scene after appeals by Texas Gov. Rick Perry for federal aid following another series of wildfires earlier this year was turned down.

“They’re willing to sacrifice the lives of the people of Bastrop just so they can come in here and pull rank,” said Daniel Miller of Nederland, who had led a group of Texas Nationalist Movement members who were certified firefighters to Bastrop from the Beaumont area. Miller said he and several other members of the group would remain in the Bastrop area to aid with civilian relief efforts.

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#1. To: All (#0)

....So is it time to shoot them yet? I mean this does seem to merit it.

____________________________________________________________ The objective of tyrannical government is to pretend to fail and pass the buck onto the citizens oppressed.

titorite  posted on  2011-09-07   18:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: titorite (#0)

I wonder how far off the fire is from G.W. Bush's ranch?

purplerose  posted on  2011-09-08   0:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite (#1) (Edited)

So before I can hose down my neighbor's yard, when flames become a threat, I need to fill out a job application?

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to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
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wakeup  posted on  2011-09-08   0:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite (#1)

....So is it time to shoot them yet? I mean this does seem to merit it.

The merit threshold was met long ago.
Folks are waiting for the right distraction.

~~~~~~~

The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

"What People Don't Know About 9/11... Is Killing People."

wakeup  posted on  2011-09-08   0:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wakeup (#4)

The merit threshold was met long ago. Folks are waiting for the right distraction.

Agreed. Depending upon risk and intent I'd volunteer to help certain folks with distractions.

And No ,if you hose down your yard without federal authority I'm sure you'll be breaking some kind of law even if a new magic law had to be enforced on the spot.

Just catch it on video for us when it goes down.

____________________________________________________________ The objective of tyrannical government is to pretend to fail and pass the buck onto the citizens oppressed.

titorite  posted on  2011-09-08   4:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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