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Title: MSNBC poll shows Ron Paul winning debate; With 63,000 votes cast, he has 46%, and more votes than Romney and Perry combined
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URL Source: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_new ... n-debate-at-the-reagan-library
Published: Sep 8, 2011
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2011-09-08 03:34:18 by Pinguinite
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Views: 499
Comments: 31
See link. MSNBC has however, skewed the graph to make it look like RP only has about 15% more than Romney, even though he has over twice as many votes. Comments are interesting and positive for RP.
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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)
but the news still won't give him more than a footnote.
Ron Paul isn't a "team player". /Sarcasm
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
I watched the debate and didn't think Ron actually debated very well. His responses were clumsy when the opportunity availed itself which wasn't very often. I think Ron Paul is the only acceptable candidate but I'm afraid he debates poorly. When he begins to respond, I think his mind floods with thoughts that get bottled up in his mouth. I wish I were wrong. Ron also said that building a border fence might end up "keeping us in" rather than keeping illegals out. Though he could very well be correct the general public might think the crazy uncle escaped the attic. I thought Newt the grinch actually responded the best though he didn't mean a word of it. He said he would "audit the Fed" ... Newt is a third wave Fabian socialist. Liars have been successful in getting elected in America for a very long time so why change a winning strategy ? Huntsman did a fair job and if the claims he made about the job he did as Governor of Utah are true ... he's a talented and capable man. Huntsman is a globalist billionaire and it didn't appear the others on the panel wanted to debate him. I thought he came across as a little arrogant. Herman Cain came across as a results oriented problem solver but had limited opportunities to speak. He would have had a better chance before Obama screwed things up for black Presidential candidates. It was clear that Romney, Perry and Bachmann were given much more debate time than the rest. Bachmann made every response a chance to say everything is a very serious crisis. She voted for the Patiot Act .. nuff said. Santorum didn't get much time and didn't have any effect. Most of the candidates are very obvious globalist puppets and their records prove it. Ron Paul is the only anti - FED Reserve, anti-war, anti-foreign aid, Pro-Constitution candidate ... the rest are tokens.
This wasn't any damned debate. This was "democrat reporters quiz republican candidates for two excruciating hours." It is proof of what suckers pubbies are that they put up with this s**t. I think you were spot on about Ron Paul. His answers were poorly modulated and not well focused. That was in part because the establishment interrogators masquerading as moderators gave Paul very little face time. Those brief moment when RP got to speak were spent playing catch up. It seemed to me that he was getting a bit riled too at the shoddy treatment he was receiving. I don't think that helped his performance. I couldn't take more than an hour of this charade. I was disappointed. I have seen RP turn on the fire works at events like this. Never-the-blinking-less, it was good to see the results this morning. Eighty thousand votes is a strong sample. Results with 584 short comments Ron Paul - 48.3% - (38,934 votes)
I tend to agree with your comment, but IMO RP's ideas can't be expounded on in 30 seconds or less. These formats are a disservice to any thinking American, but what's new in the zoo? We live in a moronic world where political sound bites, physical appearance, and allegiance to globalism are weighed more favorably than critical thinking. That said, I'm glad this poll has him on top and if he can continue to hang around close to the top two candidates, his message will be impossible for the MSM to ignore.
LOL!!! Talk about an appropriate 'tube :)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
I agree ! His message is grinding its way into the other candidates responses, ie., the FED RESERVE.
It would be miraculous if he became President and lived.
I disagree. Last night they wouldn't even ask Ron Paul his ideas concerning health-care. It was obvious that Ron Paul was set up last night. They made sure it was all about Perry, the Bilderberg's "chosen one"
did you know that huntsman is romney's cousin? he is also a real POS & has admitted he is for forced govt 'health care' & that we need to fight 'climate change'. 2 mormon freaks we do not need.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Last night they wouldn't even ask Ron Paul his ideas concerning health-care. I mentioned his exposure was minimized ... but that has nothing to do with his poor debate skills.
I didn't know they were cousins but I agree we don't need either of them in the oval office.
As we do not need this entire regiment of globalist approved, freak-show haircuts offered up in opposition to the democrat circus act in DeeCee.
yeah it seems the media likes to keep it low key that they are cousins, just like bush & kerry. When i 1st heard of the mormon governor billionare i thought something stunk & did some research on him.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The two turds performing their zio-roles as moderators were especially annoying. I kept hoping that Michelle Bachmann would keel over in one of her migraine attacks and start foaming in her mouth and ranting about nuking Iran to save Israel....
That's what really turned me off. If the republicans had any starch they would find a way to stage real debates without the interlopers, flunkies & network inquisitors. But they don't.
Newt Gingrich slapped the moderators around a couple of times and stood up for the candidates as a group vs the leftist-premise of the questions, not that it made Newt any less reprehensible for his neocon positions.
i get soooo tired of him always invoking Ronald Reagan's name. that's all he's got.
RP isn't polished like some of the others (who wants a polished bullsh!tter anymore), but i thought what he did say was sagacious and topical. from the results of the poll, so did the majority of viewers.
People are beginning to wake up to the fact Ron Paul is the real thing; an honest, competent man who damn well knows what he is talking about and is not afraid to fact facts and operate with integrity. It's sad that we have not had enough people like him in presidential races for people to recognize this right off the bat. I really am hoping that Dr. Paul's campaign really catches the collective imagination this time. This country really needs this; the Constitution is all but on it's death bed without couragious and capable people like Ron Paul putting up a credible and empowered fight to save it from oblivion.
I'm with you on RP. Occasionally though he lets out with comments like, "This fence could be used to keep us in," to paraphrase. The vast majority of the audience is not capable of processing statements like this. This kind of stuff just blows their transistors and feeds the kook campaignology.
I didn't watch the debate, and maybe he didn't do so well last night, but based on what I have seen him do before on stage, I disagree with the notion that he debates poorly. On a previously debate this season he was hitting grand slam after grand slam on stage. I can believe though that he might have been irritated at being ignored and probably asked mundane questions this time around, so if he didn't do well this time I can only think that was the reason why.
But then maybe I'm wrong. (Wouldn't be the first time.) As of this moment: Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library? Results with 925 short comments Ron Paul - 51.2% - (74,172 votes)
I can't stomach him either. He's a fraudster
Whoa! Ignore that.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson At his debating best, he might have gotten 100% of the poll votes and all the other candidates zeros.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
www.cnn.com/ September 8, 2011
CNN is trying to pretend that Ron Paul isn't a candidate -- just CNN's favored picks. That's an example of why it's known as the Communist News Network.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
» Ron Paul Widens MSNBC/NBC Presidential Poll Lead; Over 205,000 Votes Now Cast
#2. To: farmfriend (#1)
#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)
#4. To: Pinguinite (#0)
#5. To: noone222 (#4)
Total of 80,635 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments
Mitt Romney - 18.7% - (15,077 votes)
Rick Perry - 14.9%(11,981 votes)
Jon Huntsman - 7.2% - (5,779 votes)
Newt Gingrich - 4.3% - (3,483 votes)
Herman Cain - 3.1% - (2,465 votes)
Michele Bachmann - 2.5% - (1,990 votes)
Rick Santorum - 1.1% - (926 votes)
#6. To: noone222, 4um (#4)
I think Ron Paul is the only acceptable candidate but I'm afraid he debates poorly.
#7. To: Eric Stratton (#3)
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
These formats are a disservice to any thinking American, but what's new in the zoo? We live in a moronic world where political sound bites, physical appearance, and allegiance to globalism are weighed more favorably than critical thinking. That said, I'm glad this poll has him on top and if he can continue to hang around close to the top two candidates, his message will be impossible for the MSM to ignore.
#10. To: Pinguinite (#0)
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#11. To: noone222 (#4)
I think Ron Paul is the only acceptable candidate but I'm afraid he debates poorly.
#12. To: noone222, randge (#4)
#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)
I disagree.
#14. To: Artisan (#12)
did you know that huntsman is romney's cousin? he is also a real POS & has admitted he is for forced govt 'health care' & that we need to fight 'climate change'. 2 mormon freaks we do not need.
#15. To: Artisan (#12)
did you know that huntsman is romney's cousin? he is also a real POS & has admitted he is for forced govt 'health care' & that we need to fight 'climate change'. 2 mormon freaks we do not need.
#16. To: noone222 (#14)
#17. To: Pinguinite (#0)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#18. To: X-15 (#17)
The two turds performing their zio-roles as moderators were especially annoying.
#19. To: randge (#18)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#20. To: noone222 (#4)
I thought Newt the grinch actually responded the best though he didn't mean a word of it. He said he would "audit the Fed" ... Newt is a third wave Fabian socialist. Liars have been successful in getting elected in America for a very long time so why change a winning strategy ?
#21. To: noone222, randge, all (#13)
#22. To: christine (#21)
#23. To: Ferret, christine (#22)
#24. To: noone222 (#4)
I think Ron Paul is the only acceptable candidate but I'm afraid he debates poorly.
#25. To: Ferret (#22)
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Who do you think won the GOP debate?
How you voted
Total of 144,978 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments
Mitt Romney - 16.9% - (24,431 votes)
Rick Perry - 14% - (20,285 votes)
Jon Huntsman - 6.9% - (9,968 votes)
Newt Gingrichv - 4.7% - (6,758 votes)
Herman Cain - 3.3% - (4,807 votes)
Michele Bachmann - 2.1% - (3,076 votes)
Rick Santorum1%(1,481 votes)
#26. To: christine (#20)
i get soooo tired of him always invoking Ronald Reagan's name. that's all he's got.
#27. To: randge (#25)
#28. To: randge (#25)
Ron Paul - 51.2% - (74,172 votes)
Mitt Romney - 16.9% - (24,431 votes)
Rick Perry - 14% - (20,285 votes)
Jon Huntsman - 6.9% - (9,968 votes)
Newt Gingrichv - 4.7% - (6,758 votes)
Herman Cain - 3.3% - (4,807 votes)
Michele Bachmann - 2.1% - (3,076 votes)
Rick Santorum1%(1,481 votes)
#29. To: GreyLmist, All (#28)
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