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Title: Notorious Earth-Centered Solar System Denier is Arrested!
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New Nation News
URL Source: http://www.newnation.com/Millard/Passion-of-Zundel.html
Published: Mar 5, 2005
Author: H. Millard
Post Date: 2005-03-06 00:52:21 by 1776
Keywords: Earth-Centered, Notorious, Arrested!
Views: 361
Comments: 20
"GALILEO GALILEI, a notorious denier that the earth is the center of the solar system, was arrested recently and is being held in isolation lest his hateful ideas be heard by others. A spokesman for the Inquisition has said that the sale or possession of Galileo's book is banned and anyone found reading it or discussing its ideas will be arrested. 'Let everyone be cautioned by the experience of the hater Galileo,' said the spokesman. ' We will not tolerate such intolerance in our community.'" "'Free speech is fine, but Galileo went too far,' said an Anti-Slander Organization spokesman. 'His venom and bigotry are beyond the pale. We all know that the earth is the center of the solar system and anyone who denies it is just spewing hate.'" That's what could have been written back in the 1600s, and pretty much was. Today, we're much more enlightened and we certainly wouldn't have been part of such nonsense -- would we? Each of us knows in our heart of hearts that we would have stood up for Galileo even if we didn't know if what he was saying about the sun being the center of the solar system was correct or not. We know that whether he was right or wrong isn't really the point (even though he was right). He had a right to be wrong and he had a right to express his views. We know that we would have told the haters, who were trying to stop Galileo from speaking out, to crawl back under their rocks with the other loathsome creatures. We might even have said that it is part of human nature to question and wonder about things and to tell others what we believe. We might have told the bigots that the truth is the truth and that there is no harm in people expressing their theories and investigating to get to the truth. That's what intelligent people do. They don't just accept things as fact unless they can be proven. No ideas are sacred and unapproachable. All ideas are on the table in a free society and people can discuss things freely and openly without the fear of being persecuted. That's what freedom means. Most of us know that today, and most of us understand the wrong that was done to Galileo. Hindsight, it is said, makes us all geniuses. The real difficulty, when you're actually living through history, is being able to see the repression right in front of you. And, if we don't see it and if we don't speak out against it, aren't we showing thereby that we are no better than the people of Galileo's day? In truth, very few of us would have defended Galileo. How do I know this? Because very few of us are defending the victims of similar persecution in our own day. We allow repression and bigotry to flourish by our silence. We are no brighter in this regard than those who allowed Galileo to be persecuted or those who allowed the witches to be killed in Salem. We have not really progressed as living beings. We are as cowardly and ignorant as those in the past. To keep things simple, consider just one example from the news this week of what we are allowing to happen. Ernst Zundel believes that the Holocaust is not as it has been presented. He has written and spoken out about this. For this, he has been hounded by some Jews, the way Galileo was hounded by some Catholics. This past week, Zundel was deported from Canada to his native Germany where he was promptly arrested for the crime of "Holocaust denial." That's his crime: Holocaust denial. That's as ridiculous a charge as "the earth is the center of the solar system denial." He'll now go on trial in Germany and he'll be found guilty. You can count on it because that's the way the corrupt system, controlled by tyrants, works. They have phony charges and a show trial and then they find the person guilty. It's all a sham so the Stepford People can smile and say, "See, justice was served he had a trial." Zundel did nothing but use his inalienable human right to speak out on his belief that the Holocaust couldn't have happened as we're all supposed to believe. He didn't deny that Jews died. Lots did. There was a war going on. He didn't deny that there were concentration camps. There were plenty. In fact, and as an aside, we even had some in the U.S., but instead of Jews, we put Japanese-Americans in ours. War is hell. The problem is that the Holocaust, as generally put forth, has become like religious dogma. One is not supposed to investigate or question various dogmatic "truths." Zundel didn't buy it. He had questions. He sought answers. He told others what he had discovered. For this, he was smeared and persecuted. So, what does a rational and free society do when its religious dogma -- its orthodox beliefs -- are challenged? Does it allow the challengers to speak out and does it allow other people to investigate all aspects of what they're saying? You bet. However, we don't live in a rational and free society. If someone says something that the rulers don't like and which questions dogma, the rulers try to silence them and keep others from hearing the message. Then, the rulers try to destroy those who are speaking out. There's something of the alternate universe and eternal recurrence about this Zundel story that goes back even earlier than Galileo and conjures up Shakespeare's line: "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players." On our modern stage does it not seem as though we are seeing an alternate universe version of The Passion of the Christ, starring Ernst Zundel? Blanch not, dear friends, for I am not saying that Zundel is a new Jesus. I am simply saying that we've got the same old play going on right in front of us. We've been here before, and if we don't start using our brains we're going to keep coming back to the same thing over and over again as we allow one group to smear and persecute other groups by attacking individuals who take the lead in questioning and speaking out. Unless we fix things, injustice will continue. And, have no doubt that the attack on Jesus/Zundel was more than just an attack on lone individuals. These were attacks on everyone who was listening to them and was an attempt to intimidate the listeners and to force them back into the docile herd. "Conform to our truths or suffer," is the message from the rulers. Here is the synopsis of our Passion Play in the alternate universe: A man, Jesus/Zundel, has come along to challenge some dogmatic views pushed by the Jewish establishment -- the High Priests. These High Priests don't like what Jesus/Zundel is saying because he is causing the common people to doubt what the High Priests have been pushing. Alarmingly, to the High Priests, a growing number of these common people are listening more to Jesus/Zundel than they are to the High Priests. As a result, the High Priests want to be rid of Jesus/Zundel. However, for a variety of reasons, they can't directly get rid of Jesus/Zundel -- so they enlist the aid of others, the Romans/Germans. Jesus/Zundel is then crucified. Curtain. It is telling, is it not, that Mel Gibson was also attacked by many of the same types of people who attacked Jesus/Zundel? It is a sad commentary on the human condition that so many people are unable to see through smears and hate to what is essential and that so few people understand that it is the right of every human being to be able to express and hear ideas that some others may not like. The Zundel case is about human freedom. Period.
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#1. To: christine, robin, wbales (#0)
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The Zundel case is about human freedom. Period. A Slave is he who cannot speak his thoughts.
That is absolute. There's not even the illusion anymore.
It's almost one in the morning, go to bed. By the way, where are all my ribbon triangles? hmmmmm
This from a new link at www.WhatReallyHappened.com. It is to a page from "Australian Jewish News", Friday, July 26, 1996. At the end of the page are this Rabbi's choice words. CHRISTIANS have to make a choice - "either retain their present belief system and be antisemitic or form a partnership with the Jewish people." This is the view of Bar-Ilan University's Rabbi Dr. Pinchas Hayman, who is active in Jewish-Christian dialogue and in encouraging modern Christianity to return to its Jewish roots by observing the Seven Noahide Laws. "As long as Christians keep Jesus as God, they will be antisemitic because that belief must lead them to believe that those who reject Jesus reject God," he told the Australian Jewish News. "That's how the process of satanising the Jews began. That belief is the root cause of 1500 years of the Christian idolatrous antisemitism which led to the Holocaust." Proficient in New Testament Studies and Classical Greek, Dr. Hayman noted that at least five American churches have given up belief in Jesus.
This is the view of Bar-Ilan University's Rabbi Dr. Pinchas Hayman,... Gee, what unfettered arrogance. But, the good Rabbi is being merely honest. But such arrogance is not unexpected considering the amount of influence and control exercised by Zionists over the American sheeple--and people and governments everywhere. Zundel is a real life, current and true example of that. The treatment of Zundel is indefensible--but by grace of God there goes the thought criminal in all of us. A poster over a Liberty Forum has this as a tag line and it is something all should read and think about: "Germany controlled 2.4 million Jews at it largest extent 3.8 million of them received compensation from Germany Unfortunately the other 6 million perished" While one could quibble over exact numbers, this quote raises a valid point. There is no doubt that Hitler went after Jews. There is also no doubt that throughout the following 60 years, the WWII Holocaust has been exaggerated and exploited for political purposes by Zionists.
In time, we too will be Zundeled. I don't give a f**k.
LOL! Zundeled, that's a good word for being bundled away be the thought police. "And just what are YOU thinking today?!" (The new banner over ADL's headquarters.)
Having had battles on Ldot.com with paid ADL posters on this subject, I will say it again.. the facts of the Holocaust as reported in today's "history", are not correct and I again call for the ADL to sit down and debate me on live tv... Hey Foxman.. you grow a set yet?????? or will you sit in your high priced office and hide behind your paid posters?????
I remember a thread here a week of so ago about a school system in the Northeast requiring their students to follow the philosophy of the state before acquiring a passing grade in school. This particular philosophy concerned believing in diversity. You are right. The kid's gloves are off and the hand of the state is made of iron.
This is the depths to which Jew haters have sunk. To compare Jesus with the Jew hating Holocaust denier Ernest Zundel is the ultimate in stupidity. It is a desperate attempt by racist Jew haters to give credibility to their fellacious arguments.
Hey, what do think of this: Germany controlled 2.4 million Jews at it largest extent 3.8 million of them received compensation from Germany Unfortunately the other 6 million perished
If they get their way it will soon be: TELL THE TRUTH: GO TO JAIL
So far in America, at least, you can say that and not face prison. Deaths at Auschwitz drop by a staggering 2.5 million, yet the six million figure remains the same? Frankly I don't believe in the Holocaust as officially indoctrinated in students in government schools. Some interesting reading on the subject is avaiable here:
Because you've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic hatred. Ernest Zundel is a liar and a convicted felon. Real reliable there, eh?
Will those who put up that new Auschwitz plaque be Zundeled?
"Because you've been brainwashed by anti-Semitic hatred." - EagleRising May I ask you a question or two.. 1) Do you believe all the "facts" that taught in today's schools on this subject are correct? 2) Do you approve of the Anti-Christian slant shown by some of the Jewish Faith, is hateful to Christians? And if so, would you be willing to state that for the record? And if not, again for the record, why? Thanks, Refinersfire
corrected version: by some of the Jewish Faith, that is hateful to Christians?
The Zundel case pretty much should alert anyone who is honest that the Holocaust is a propaganda device, not a historical event.
I am not clear what you are saying here, please explain.
It is telling, is it not, that Mel Gibson was also attacked by many of the same types of people who attacked Jesus/Zundel?
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#2. To: Jhoffa_, aristeides (#0)
It is a sad commentary on the human condition that so many people are unable to see through smears and hate to what is essential and that so few people understand that it is the right of every human being to be able to express and hear ideas that some others may not like.
--- Euripides
#3. To: 1776 (#0)
However, we don't live in a rational and free society.
#4. To: christine (#3)
#5. To: 1776, wbales (#1)
It is telling, is it not, that Mel Gibson was also attacked by many of the same types of people who attacked Jesus/Zundel?
#6. To: robin, 1776, christine, Zipporah, Jethro Tull (#5)
..."either retain their present belief system and be antisemitic or form a partnership with the Jewish people."
#7. To: wbales (#6)
but by grace of God there goes the thought criminal in all of us.
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
In time, we too will be Zundeled.
#9. To: 1776 (#0)
Holocaust
#10. To: christine (#3)
There's not even the illusion anymore.
#11. To: 1776 (#0)
The Zundel case is about human freedom
#12. To: EagleRising (#11)
#13. To: christine (#3)
That is absolute. There's not even the illusion anymore.
#14. To: Refinersfire, christine, robin (#9)
I will say it again.. the facts of the Holocaust as reported in today's "history", are not correct
The plaque at Auschwitz from 1948-89 stated the figure of four million.
Now the same plaque reads 1.5 million casually reducing the number of deaths by 2.5 million.
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#15. To: 1776 (#14)
Frankly I don't believe in the Holocaust as officially indoctrinated in students in government schools
#16. To: 1776 (#14)
The plaque at Auschwitz from 1948-89 stated the figure of four million. Now the same plaque reads 1.5 million casually reducing the number of deaths by 2.5 million.
#17. To: EagleRising (#15)
"Frankly I don't believe in the Holocaust as officially indoctrinated in students in government schools" - 1776
#18. To: All (#17)
#19. To: wbales (#16)
Will those who put up that new Auschwitz plaque be Zundeled?
#20. To: 1776 (#19)
The Zundel case pretty much should alert anyone who is honest that the Holocaust is a propaganda device, not a historical event.
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