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Title: Sarah Palin snorted cocaine and had affairs with NBA star
Source: Daily Mail
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... husbands-business-partner.html
Published: Sep 17, 2011
Author: By Paul Bentley
Post Date: 2011-09-17 01:57:36 by Jack
Keywords: None
Views: 3834
Comments: 48

Sarah Palin snorted cocaine off 55 gallon oil drum and had affairs with NBA star and husband's business partner: Sensational claims in new book

Former vice presidential candidate alleged to have snorted cocaine off an oil drum Said to have had night of passion with basketball star Husband Todd said to have dissolved snowmobile firm after discovering affair with business partner Ex-governor of Alaska has yet to announce whether she will run for president next year

By Paul Bentley

Claims: A new book alleges Sarah Palin has taken cocaine in the past and had a six-month affair with a former business partner of her husband Todd

Claims: A new book alleges Sarah Palin has taken cocaine in the past and had a six-month affair with a former business partner of her husband Todd

Sarah Palin snorted cocaine off a 55 gallon oil drum while snowmobiling with friends and had illicit affairs with a top NBA star and one of her husband's business partners, a new book sensationally claims.

In revelations which could strike a devastating blow to the controversial politician's hopes of joining the 2012 presidential race, Mrs Palin is said to have taken the class A drug with her husband, while smoking marijuana at college in secret liaisons with one of her professors.

Joe McGinniss's book The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, which is due to be published on September 20, also alleges that the former governor of Alaska is far from the traditional family woman she claims to be.

Mrs Palin, 47, had a one-night stand with Miami Heat basketball star Glen Rice less than a year before she eloped with her husband, the book claims.

She is said to have met the 6ft 8ins player in 1987 when he was playing in a college basketball tournament in Alaska and she worked as a sports reporter for KTUU television.

It is also claimed that she had a six-month affair with Brad Hanson, who ran a snowmobile dealership with her husband Todd - a betrayal which led to Todd dissolving their business.

In a bid to expose Mrs Palin's skeletons, Mr McGinness has studied the former vice presidential candidate for three years and last year even moved in to a home next door in Wasilla, Alaska, to dig some more. Heat: The book alleges that Palin had a one night stand with basketball star Glen Rice

Heat: The book alleges that Palin had a one night stand with basketball star Glen Rice

The author writes that after college Mrs Palin developed a 'fetish' for black men.

She allegedly had a tryst with basketball star Glen Rice in her younger sister Molly's University of Alaska dorm room, while she was dating Todd and just nine months before the couple were married. Six months: Palin is said to have had an affair with Brad Hanson, one of her husband's colleagues

Six months: Palin is said to have had an affair with Brad Hanson, one of her husband's colleagues

Mrs Palin got pregnant with Todd and they eloped in August 1988.

Their son Track, the oldest of five, was born eight months later in April 1989.

A friend said Mrs Palin spent the night with the basketball star but could not confirm whether they had sex, according to the National Enquirer.

'I remember Sarah feeling pretty good that she'd been with a black basketball star,' a source told the magazine.

The athlete is said to have confirmed the night of passion in Mr McGinniss's book.

Mr Rice went on to have a huge career playing basketball in the NBA and was a three-timer All-Star.

The book goes on to claim that while married Mrs Palin also had an affair with one of her husband's business partners.

Todd is alleged to have ended all dealings with Brad Hanson after he found out about the secret six-month relationship in 1996.

Both Mrs Palin and Mr Hanson have denied the allegations.

Perhaps most damaging of all could be the suggestion that the supposed traditional all American mother has taken drugs. Broken home? Sarah Palin poses with husband Todd Palin outside their house in Wasilla, Alaska, in October 2006

Broken home? Sarah Palin poses with husband Todd Palin outside their house in Wasilla, Alaska, in October 2006 Headlines: The book, written by Joe McGinniss and due for release on September 20, claims Todd (right) dissolved the snowmobile business he ran with Brad Hanson

Headlines: The book, written by Joe McGinniss and due for release on September 20, claims Todd (right) dissolved the snowmobile business he ran with Brad Hanson after discovering the affair

Mr McGinness writes that while Mrs Palin attended Mat-Su College she took marijuana with a professor who was also the father of one of her female friends.

Before she was elected governor she is also said to have snorted cocaine with her husband off an overturned oil drum while snowmobiling with friends.

Todd, who was arrested for driving drunk in 1986 used cocaine a lot and was 'on the end of a straw plenty,' according to a long-term associate quoted in the book. JOE MCGINNISS: AN AUTHOR WITH AN EYE FOR THE EXTREMES

Joe McGinness is a controversial author who has built a career on immersing himself in extreme subjects in order to, in his own words, ‘search for the truth, however elusive… Penetrating the façade of institutions and people in public life’.

The writer gained notoriety aged 26 when his first book about how Richard Nixon marketed himself, titled The Selling of the President 1968, became an overnight success – leading to him becoming the youngest living author with a book on the New York Times bestseller list.

He has since written a combination of true crime books and political exposés, as well as one non-fiction account of a year exploring Alaska.

In 1983, his take on the notorious Jeffrey MacDonald murder case led him being sued, with MacDonald alleging McGinniss made him believe he was on his side before slamming him in the book. The case settled out of court.

Even before moving in next door Sarah Palin, McGinness, 68, had tried to get close to her, offering more than $60,000 have dinner with the politician at a charity auction in 2009. He lost to a winning bid of 63,500.

When the Palins found out about their new neighbour, Sarah wrote on her Facebook page: ‘We're sure to have a doozey to look forward to with this treasure he's penning.

‘Wonder what kind of material he'll gather while overlooking Piper's bedroom?’

The explosive book goes on to quote those who knew the family growing up, claiming Mrs Palin was a 'bad mum' who would lock herself in her room for hours on end asking not to be disturbed while her children cooked themselves dinner.

Sarah Palin was plucked from obscurity to be the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008.

The 'pitbull in lipstick' sparked a media storm after accepting the nomination, despite questions over her experience.

But she wowed the U.S. after a barn-storming speech in September 2008 in which she attacked critics for calling her 'small town'.

A former mayor of Wasilla before she became governor of Alaska, Palin stepped down after the Republican defeat in the presidential election.

The mother-of-five has remained tight-lipped on whether she would stand next year, but said she would likely make an announcement at the end of this month.

She has been overshadowed in recent months by Tea Party candidates including Michelle Bachmann.

The Republican, who has now associated herself with the Tea Party movement in the U.S., has been dogged by scandal since being selected as Senator John McCain's running mate in 2007.

There have also been frequent rumours that she is set to divorce her husband Todd, which have always been denied.

And she has faced accusations by the father of her daughter's child, Levi Johnston, that she wanted to keep Bristol's pregnancy a secret and adopt the child herself.

Palin has yet to declare whether she intends to run for election in next year's presidential race.

Joe McGinniss, 68, has written several political books including works on former president Richard Nixon and on Alaska. Explosive: The book's revelations could halt Palin's 2012 bid before it's started THE ROGUE SEARCHING FOR THE REAL SARAH PALIN author Joe McGinniss

Explosive: The book, written by Joe McGinness, right, could halt Palin's 2012 bid before it has started Next door: A fence in between the Palins' home, right, and neighbour, author Joe McGinness's home, left

Next door: A fence in between the Palins' home, right, and neighbour, author Joe McGinness's home, left

But his work on the state sparked vitriol from Palin after he refuted her claims to have secured the construction of a $40billion natural gas pipeline.

The antagonism heightened after he took up the offer of renting a small house next door to Sarah Palin's in Wasilla in summer 2010.

It saw Palin write several posts on her Facebook account and articles in the right-wing press scathing Mr McGinniss's approach to writing the book.

Mr McGinniss has since moved away from Wasilla after completing his book.

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#8. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-17   13:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jack (#0)

Wait till someone publishes the photos taken at Palin's bas mitzva.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-09-17   13:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jack, All (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-17   14:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

It has been Totally Open Season on this milf and her family for years now, in a manner and degree of viciousness heretofore unheard of in American politics. Nobody - no one born of woman - could survive such a unceasing full court press of scandal, mockery, smarmy conjecture, the cruelest public derision and outright lies; the vital difference is no one but her has ever received it.

Can you imagine subjecting the family of a Prominent Governing Jew or Nigger to this?

Interesting how the Palins are excoriated for cashing in on themselves by unprincipled outsiders hoping to cash in on them without divvying up the loot.

The thing I find the most amusing about this story is that we are told by liberals and multiculturalists that race mixing is natural and good. However, if they don't like someone or want to attack them, they are quite willing to snicker at a possible mudshark and accuse them of being a nigger-lover. That said it is also funny that this guy accuses her of being a racist mudshark.

Makes perfect sense.

Palin's supporters may care about her f***ing a nigger, but they certainly won't say so. Because those people would sooner throw their firstborn in scalding hot water than ever be called a racist.

Palin's a grifter and a fraud and an empty-headed actress. Palin and Bachman both suffer from a huge case of stupidity and shallowness. I don't imagine either of these women ever have a quiet moment of reflection or serious thought. They are vapid, vacuous women, and it's an embarrassment that both of them have caught the attention of so many White people.

It does not speak well for us at all. It's quite alarming as a matter of fact.

Hopefully, they will both go away very soon.

rant/off

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-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-09-17   15:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-17   15:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#11)

That was a fine rant there, X-15. It's remarkable what a free pass was given phonies like MLK and is given today to his successors like J.J. Jr. and that butt assclown Sharpton by our heavily hebraic pressitute corps. You can say that about any number of hures that get air time today.

Palin is a real dishy item to lots of pubs and quite a vote magnet no matter how empty headed she may be. Our monopoly press was detailed to descend upon her, and they could not crush her ascendancy fast enough. She could wave that little pop-sickle stick Israeli flag all day long for all they cared.

It's gotta suck having to kiss that much ass. It's part of the job I guess. Like shoveling shit in a barn or sticking your arm up a horse's ass to feel for its uterus. Except there's nothing dishonorable about shoveling shit or doctoring a horse.

randge  posted on  2011-09-17   16:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

LOL

I know where you're going to be at 7:30.

Beat those SuckEyes.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-17   19:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Shoonra (#9)

Wait till someone publishes the photos taken at Palin's bas mitzva.

Now this is funny Shoo.

For a spy from the SPLC, you're ok.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-17   19:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#11)

The thing I find the most amusing about this story is that we are told by liberals and multiculturalists that race mixing is natural and good. However, if they don't like someone or want to attack them, they are quite willing to snicker at a possible mudshark and accuse them of being a nigger-lover. That said it is also funny that this guy accuses her of being a racist mudshark.

Makes perfect sense.

An astute observation, X-Man.

Only the radical left can have it both ways; the authority to paint one as a bigot for choosing to associate with fellow whites and to slander one as a tramp/whore for opting for an interracial dalliance.

Liberalism is a mental disorder - Frank from Queens, a caller to the Bob Grant show circa 1992

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-17   19:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

On another note, Mack Brown may have put a for real coaching staff together, and found himself with with three quality QB's.

49-20 are you kidding me?

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-17   19:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

49-20 are you kidding me?

UCLA's defense sucked and they hurt themselves repeatedly ... but a win is a win !

I don't participate in the FEDERAL FRAUD but if I did my bumper sticker would state: "Screw em all - VOTE RON PAUL"

noone222  posted on  2011-09-17   20:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull, Shoonra (#15)

For a spy from the SPLC, you're ok.

He might be but for that annoying habit of supporting someone for President that he has to know is not qualified.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-17   20:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

Liberalism is a mental disorder - Frank from Queens, a caller to the Bob Grant show circa 1992

I remember old Frank. He was one of my all time favorite callers. He could rant with the best of them while still being cogent and on point. I think Bob was rather fond of him as well.

"It's sick out, and getting sicker." ~ Bob Grant

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-17   21:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach, Shoonra (#19)

He might be but for that annoying habit of supporting someone for President that he has to know is not qualified.

Since when has that ever stopped a doctrinaire Lib'rul.

It's like trying to get a drooling, mouth breath, bony brow ridge FreepTard™ to think or even admit that Duhhbya the Lesser lied and committed war crimes that resulted in millions of innocent deaths. It just ain't gonna' happen.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-17   21:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

anyone on suicide watch over there?

laughing...

christine  posted on  2011-09-17   21:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#20)

I remember old Frank. He was one of my all time favorite callers. He could rant with the best of them while still being cogent and on point. I think Bob was rather fond of him as well.

That's hilarious that u recall Frank from Queens. What a super great caller, and an extremely bright guy he was. I reference him when I use that quite because Michael (Savage) Weiner ripped him off and claimed it for himself.

Grant was also a peach. When I began listening to talk radio he was IT in NYC (well, Long John Neble before him). His "Bob Grand mandatory Sterilization Policy" made lots of sense to me while I was patrolling the slums of Harlem and other scenic spots :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-17   22:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

That's hilarious that u recall Frank from Queens. What a super great caller, and an extremely bright guy he was. I reference him when I use that quite because Michael (Savage) Weiner ripped him off and claimed it for himself.

Except that savage wiener isn't as well mannered. I much prefer Frank to the wienie man.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-18   3:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-18   12:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jack (#0)

ha ha. If it werent true, palin would OWN the author and all his heirs. It's funny that Palin can not deny she's a nigger loving 2 bit whore & dope feind. The shishka also admits using pot, yet supports the "drug war".

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-09-18   13:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton (#25)

Golden is a grade A coach, and nice job with the beat down of those dogs last night.

With Paterno we're a perpetual 8-9 win team, which makes a ton of money regardless of bowl games or national contention.

For me he can't leave soon enough.

Enjoy what promises to be an exciting season, and don't be shocked when Paterno does retire, Golden heads our way.

Peace brother.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-18   20:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#24)

Except that savage wiener isn't as well mannered. I much prefer Frank to the wienie man.

Yes indeed and that speaks to Frank's intelligence. He had/has a terrific grasp of history and current events that he masterfully weaved into his calls.

god how I miss those early talk radio days in NYC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-09-18   20:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

god how I miss those early talk radio days in NYC.

I had a pocket radio, long gone to radio heaven, that I would listen to while working in the garden. It was great fun. I think talk radio started dying for me when I figured out that Slush Rimshot was a fraud and was intentionally engaging in disinformation and PsyOps. Although, I do have to thank him for that as well as that is what spurred me to learn a lot more about disinformation and how the media is used to disinform and control the populace.

The final straw was Art Bell and figuring out that he was another part of the PsyOps puzzle - particularly after his program was bought by Klearchannel.

I still remember those early days though when I would eagerly anticipate hearing those words: "Art Bell is on. You're listening to Art Bell on the mighty Blowtorch of the Pacific Northwest Eleven-Ninety K - E - X." Fond memories.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-18   21:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent (#29)

what about Noury? what do you think of him? i don't listen to him much, but i get the impression he's like a Rense.

christine  posted on  2011-09-18   22:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine (#30)

I got out of the habit of listening and although he is not bad his hands are tied by virtue of working for Klearchannel which, last I knew, was still under the control of the Mays family who are a bunch of NeoCon Kristyun Zionist apocalyptics. In other words insiders in the NWO. They trialed one guy before settling on Noury who I thought was better, but he wasn't politically acceptable - he was not a NeoCon. Also George follows the Ofishul lyin' on 911 so far as I know. I actually liked Art Bell before he got "flipped". He may have come under threats, but I am not sure. I know his son was raped by a Homo Pedophile "Teacher" with HIV, and the strange and abrupt death of his wife Ramona has always bothered me although I cannot point at any real data to show it was other than as represented - a fluke.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-18   23:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." ~ Ben Franklin

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-19   1:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#21)

Since when has that ever stopped a doctrinaire Lib'rul.

It's like trying to get a drooling, mouth breath, bony brow ridge FreepTard™ to think or even admit that Duhhbya the Lesser lied and committed war crimes that resulted in millions of innocent deaths. It just ain't gonna' happen.

You have a point I reckon. My alleged internet "service" was off from about 8:30 Saturday night until sometime early/earlier this morning. I'm hoping that it might stay on now for a little while but it seems to be off about as much as it is on.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-19   11:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#33)

Good luck - sounds like Comcast.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   13:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#34)

It's Frontier. They have very good phone service but they never should have branched out to providing internet service until they could offer better service. We used to be on Northland Cable and it was far better. Almost never out unless there was a really bad storm and they seemed to do their best to get it back on as soon as they could. When I called about it right after mine went out Saturday night the guy I talked to was nice enough but he told me that it might be Monday or maybe even Tuesday before it was back on. Seems fairly excessive for a cut cable and in beautiful weather. I could have understood it a little better if there had been a raging storm or something but it was beautiful weather, couldn't ask for better.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-19   13:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#35)

Well if they fix it on the weekend they have to pay time and a half - and double time on Sunday. So, it becomes "Hobson's Choice" - either they take a cut to the bottom line or make the suckers customers wait until they can pay straight scale. Now, that's a no brainer.

Joking aside Frontier is still the smallest of the larger phone companies and so they simply do not have the same level of resources and may not be doing as much preventative maintenance. Hard to say. Or it could have just been one of those "we need to order a part" problems.

In any event good to see you're back up.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   13:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#36)

Thank you. I have been thinking about sending an email to whoever is supposedly in charge of Frontier and telling them that if they are only going to give people part-time service they should lower their fees to reflect that.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-19   13:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

Thank you. I have been thinking about sending an email to whoever is supposedly in charge of Frontier and telling them that if they are only going to give people part-time service they should lower their fees to reflect that.

You're welcome. It never hurts to say something. They might ignore it, but if enough people complain and/or start looking for alternatives then they might begin to take notice.

The reality is that they could heterodyne the internet over the power lines but the PTB don't want the sheeple to get wise to how the power lines can be, and probably already are, used to transmit "other stuff" like mood control frequencies.

Gotta run. Take care.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   13:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)

The reality is that they could heterodyne the internet over the power lines but the PTB don't want the sheeple to get wise to how the power lines can be, and probably already are, used to transmit "other stuff" like mood control frequencies.

I've heard that rumor, but I can't see how a pure 60HZ sine wave can be modified to add "mood frequencies". On a scope the sine wave would appear quite noisy and would look like more of a square wave or at least show some distortion indicating multiple higher frequecies are present.

At the power outlets, the wave should be clean with no distortion. I'd like to see a screen capture of a regular household outlet having anything but a pure sine wave.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-19   13:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#39)

Just anecdotally I have heard at least one report, from Jeff Rense, of a mind control pattern being read off a 'scope hooked up to the household frequency. However, just ask any audiophile who is in to high end gear and you'll get a snoot full of just how dirty most household current is.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   16:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Original_Intent (#40)

However, just ask any audiophile who is in to high end gear and you'll get a snoot full of just how dirty most household current is.

At one old apartment I used to live at in a busy city, I'd get tons of radio noise on the AC and was able to see it on a spectrum analyzer.

However, at most other places with modern wiring that I've checked with a simple oscilloscope, I haven't seen anything riding on the incoming AC.

I'm sure they CAN do it for targetted households if they want to.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-19   16:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: FormerLurker (#41)

I'm sure they CAN do it for targetted households if they want to.

Me too. Another danger just now surfacing is the so-called "Smart-Meters" putting microwave frequencies on your incoming current thus boxing you in with EMF. There are solutions to the problem, such as shielded wiring, or getting rid of the "Smart-Meters", but with every meter in your neighborhood now transmitting it becomes difficult without going to great expense.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   16:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Original_Intent, 4 (#42)

A new thread may be in order since SP's coal-hauling matters to no one here.

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Lod  posted on  2011-09-19   16:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#42) (Edited)

Another danger just now surfacing is the so-called "Smart- Meters" putting microwave frequencies on your incoming current thus boxing you in with EMF.

Now THAT I think is beyond improbable. There are mathematical constraints on the upper frequency range of household copper wire, and microwaves are WAY past the drop off frequency.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-19   19:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Lod (#43)

A new thread may be in order since SP's coal-hauling matters to no one here.

Hey at least she didn't get a pic snapped of her with a huge sausage between her lips... LOL


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-19   19:21:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker (#44)

Another danger just now surfacing is the so-called "Smart- Meters" putting microwave frequencies on your incoming current thus boxing you in with EMF.

Now THAT I think is beyond improbable. There are mathematical constraints on the upper frequency range of household copper wire, and microwaves are WAY past the drop off frequency.

Not if they are riding in on a carrier wave. That phenomena is why there are multiple products available for mitigating it.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   20:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Lod (#43)

A new thread may be in order since SP's coal-hauling matters to no one here.

Have you no shame? Just think about all the feelings that would hurt over at El Pee?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-19   20:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Original_Intent (#46) (Edited)

Not if they are riding in on a carrier wave. That phenomena is why there are multiple products available for mitigating it.

The carrier wave is at 60Hz. The microwave band is 1GHz - 170GHz. Frequencies any higher than 100MHz do not pass through copper wire efficiently, and that is why WAVEGUIDES are necessary for conducting microwaves in radars and other types of microwave devices.

Besides, you can't modulate a low frequency wave with a higher frequency, it works the other way around, whether you're talking about AM or FM modulation, the carrier is always magnitudes of order higher than the modulation.

Take a standard AM brodcast, if you tune to a station at the 600KHz mark on the dial, the carrier is at 600KHz, whereas the modulating wave is in the audio range, ie. 20Hz-20,000Hz. It rides ON the carrier as shown below (waves not to scale, a 600KHz carrier would be solid blur in comparison to an audio wave);

Frequency modulation, or FM, is a bit different where instead of modulating the amplitude of the carrier, the frequency of the carrier is shifted up or down to match the amplitude and frequency of the modulation. Thus, rate of shift is the modulation frequency, and amount of shift is the modulation amplitude.

What it comes down to OI, is that there is no way a microwave frequency signal can be used to modulate a 60Hz carrier wave.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-09-20   13:20:25 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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