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Title: Letter to a 9/11 Skeptic
Source: BeforeItsNews.com
URL Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1123 ... /Letter_To_A_9_11_Skeptic.html
Published: Sep 17, 2011
Author: Julius Sequerra
Post Date: 2011-09-21 09:41:23 by James Deffenbach
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Letter to a 9/11 Skeptic

By Julius Sequerra
http://BeforeItsNews.com
September 17, 2011

The following letter was sent to the CEO of a major national corporation whom I met at a private social function last week:

Dear John,
I’m pleased that you called. For a moment I wondered if I’d offended you that evening with my careless comment about the 9/11 cover-up. It’s a subject I normally avoid with people I meet for the first time. I only responded the way I did because I misunderstood your question re the “9/11 anniversary.” Obviously, I’m relieved that the reason for your silence was because you hadn’t received my email.
With that being said, and considering the import and gravity of the topic, I feel I must somewhat reluctantly break protocol and run the risk of broaching this sensitive subject nonetheless. Please forgive me for doing so, but I believe I would be remiss in my role as an American patriot and a responsible citizen if I were to avoid the subject altogether -- objectionable as it might at first appear -- without at least alerting you to some of the facts that led me down this troubling path of discovery.
This information was first communicated to me, circa ‘04, by two friends — one, a retired USAF fighter pilot, the other a current airline captain. This opened my mind to a reality that was shocking, to say the least. It’s been a profoundly disturbing awakening since.
First, may I ask that you please take 10 seconds to watch this clip of the THIRD tower at the World Trade Center that collapsed on 9/11. Unknown to more than 90% of Americans, WTC Building 7 was a 47-storey steel-framed skyscraper that collapsed in a 6.6-second freefall at 5:30 PM that same day: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A
Then, please take 15 minutes this weekend to watch the following clip just released by Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and narrated by Hollywood celebrity Ed Asner: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...w&feature=player_embedded
Finally, I would urge you to watch this 5-minute interview of Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, US Army (Ret.). Gen. Stubblebine was former former Commanding General of US Army Intelligence and Security Command: www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...E&feature=player_embedded
Should you wish to dig deeper (I’m almost certain you will), also copied, below, are a few recent articles I pulled together for your perusal. This assemblage of material represents merely the tip of the proverbial iceberg. There are literally thousands of military officers, pilots, firemen, physicists, architects, engineers, academics, political leaders and others who are involved in a burgeoning global “9/11 truth movement,” and are demanding to know what really happened that doomful day. I’ve also provided a few links to give you an idea of the unimpeachable credibility, and caliber, of the individuals who are standing up to be counted.
You will not find any of this information in the mainstream media. As to the reasons for this silence, I believe Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official Karen Kwiatkowski – who blew the whistle on the Bush administration’s efforts to concoct false intelligence about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction -- explains it best:
"I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government, our country, and our way of life. To be charged with questioning these foundations is far more serious than being labeled a disgruntled ‘conspiracy nut’ or ‘anti-government traitor,’ or even being sidelined or marginalized within an academic, government service, or literary career. To question the official 9/11 story is simply and fundamentally revolutionary. In this way, of course, questioning the official story is also simply and fundamentally American."
A video released last week entitled AE 9/11Truth - Experts Speak Out [1] provides the clearest analysis of the 9/11 attacks from professional architects and engineers. It is, without doubt, the best and most comprehensive film yet produced challenging the official version of the WTC attacks. It’s also the appropriate antidote to the disinformation that continues to be pervasive in the US media.
You have my firm assurance that I shall not henceforth touch upon this subject (unless, of course, you were to request more information). That said, I would urge you to take the time this weekend to delve deeper into this most disturbing matter. If I did not deem this information to be absolutely vital to the future of our nation — indeed, the world — I would not be communicating this to you.
All I ask is that you approach the matter objectively and with an open mind. And it might be prudent to keep in mind that what we think we know today with ‘certainty’ can be radically altered by what we discover tomorrow.
Our nation is in peril, sir. Time is of the essence.
Kind regards,
Julius
[1] Architects & Engineers: Experts Speak Out - www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4

Partial list of 9/11 Truth organizations: NB: Should the links not connect automatically, please copy-paste in your browser.
Patriots for 9/11 Truth (Military officers, political leaders, academics, et al) patriotsquestion911.com/
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth www.ae911truth.org/
Pilots for 9/11 Truth www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
Scientists for 9/11 Truth www.scientistsfor911truth.org/
Firefighters for 9/11 Truth firefightersfor911truth.org/
Military Personnel for 9/11 Truth www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/
Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth mp911truth.org/
Lawyers for 9/11 Truth lawyersfor911truth.blogspot.com/
Actors, Artists, and Athletes for 9/11 Truth www.aaa911truth.com/

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The following article by Paul Craig Roberts was directly under the letter to the skeptic.

The "Critics" of 9/11 Truth. Do They Have a Case?

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Global Research
September 13, 2011

The short answer to the question in the title is no.
The 9/11 truth critics have nothing but ad hominem arguments.
Let’s examine the case against "the truthers" presented by Ted Rall, Ann Barnhardt, and Alexander Cockburn.
But first let’s define who "the truthers" are.
The Internet has made it possible for anyone to have a web site and to rant and speculate to their heart’s content. There are a large number of "9/11 conspiracy theorists".
Many on both sides of the issue are equally ignorant. Neither side has any shame about demonstrating ignorance.
Both sides of the issue have conspiracy theories.
9/11 was a conspiracy whether a person believes that it was an inside job or that a handful of Arabs outwitted the entire intelligence apparatus of the Western world and the operational response of NORAD and the US Air Force.
For one side to call the other conspiracy theorists is the pot calling the kettle black.
The question turns not on name-calling but on evidence.
The 9/11 Truth movement was not created by bloggers ranting on their web sites. It was created by professional architects and engineers some of whom are known for having designed steel high rise buildings.
It was created by distinguished scientists, such as University of Copenhagen nano- Chemist Niels Harrit who has 60 scientific papers to his credit and physicist Steven Jones.
It was created by US Air Force pilots and commercial airline pilots who are expert at flying airplanes.
It was created by firefighters who were in the twin towers and who personally heard and experienced numerous explosions including explosions in the sub- basements. It was created by members of 9/11 families who desire to know how such an improbable event as 9/11 could possibly occur.
The professionals and the scientists are speaking from the basis of years of experience and expert knowledge. Moreover, the scientists are speaking from the basis of careful research into the evidence that exists.
When an international research team of scientists spends 18 months studying the components in the dust from the towers and the fused pieces of concrete and steel, they know what they are doing. When they announce that they have definite evidence of incendiaries and explosives, you can bet your life that that have the evidence.
When a physicist proves that Building 7 (the stories not obscured by other buildings) fell at free fall speed and NIST has to acknowledge that he is correct, you can bet your life that the physicist is correct.
When fire department captains and clean-up teams report molten steel--and their testimony is backed up with photographs--in the debris of the ruins weeks and months after the buildings’ destruction, you can bet your life the molten steel was there.
When the same authorities report pumping fire suppressants and huge quantities of water with no effect on the molten steel, you can bet your life that the temperature long after the buildings’ destruction remained extremely high, far higher than any building fire can reach.
When the architects, engineers, and scientists speak, they offer no theory of who is responsible for 9/11. They state that the known evidence supports neither the NIST reports nor the 9/11 Commission Report. They say that the explanation that the government has provided is demonstrably wrong and that an investigation is required if we are to discover the truth about the event.
It is not a conspiracy theory to examine the evidence and to state that the evidence does not support the explanation that has been given.
That is the position of the 9/11 Truth movement.
What is the position of the movement’s critics? Ted Rall says: “Everything I’ve read and watched on Truther sites is easily dismissed by anyone with a basic knowledge of physics and architecture. (I spent three years in engineering school.) www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29113.htm
Wow! What powerful credentials. Has Rall ever designed a high rise steel building? Could Rall engage in a debate with a professor of nano-chemistry? Could he refute Newton’s laws in a debate with university physicists? Does Rall know anything about maneuvering airplanes? Does he have an explanation why 100 firefighters, janitors, and police report hearing and experiencing explosions that they did not hear or experience?
Clearly, Ted Rall has no qualifications whatsoever to make any judgment about the judgments of experts whose knowledge exceeds his meager understanding by a large amount.
Ann Barnhardt writes: “I gotta tell you, I’ve just about had it with these 9/11 truthers. If there is one phenomenon in our sick, sick culture that sums up how far gone and utterly damaged we are as a people, it is 9/11 trutherism. It pretty much covers everything: self-loathing, antisemitism, zero knowledge of rudimentary physics and a general inability to think logically.” She goes down hill from here. barnhardt.biz/
Amazing, isn’t she? Physics professors have “zero knowledge of rudimentary physics.”
Internationally recognized logicians have “a general inability to think logically.” People trained in the scientific method who use it to seek truth are “self-loathing.” If you doubt the government’s account you are antisemitic. Barnhardt then provides her readers with a lesson in physics, structural architecture and engineering, and the behavior of steel under heat and stress that is the most absolute nonsense imaginable.
Obviously, Barnhardt knows nothing whatsoever about what she is talking about, but overflowing with hubris she dismisses real scientists and professionals with ad hominem arguments. She adds to her luster with a video of herself tearing out pages of the Koran, which she has marked with slices of bacon, and burning the pages.
Now we come to Alexander Cockburn. He is certainly not stupid. I know him. He is pleasant company. He provides interesting intellectual conversation. I like him. Yet, he also arrogantly dismisses highly qualified experts who provide evidence contrary to the official government story of 9/11.
Cockburn avoids evidence presented by credentialed experts and relies on parody. He writes that the conspiracists claim that the twin towers “pancaked because Dick Cheney’s agents--scores of them--methodically planted demolition charges.” www.counterpunch.org/2011...conspiracists-vindicated- http://after-all-these-">www.counterpunch.org/2011...ndicated-after-all-these- years/
Little doubt but there are bloggers somewhere in the vast Internet world who say this. But this is not what the professionals are saying who have provided evidence that the official account is not correct. The experts are simply saying that the evidence does not support the official explanation. More recently, an international team of scientists has reported finding unequivocal evidence of incendiaries and explosives. They have not said anything about who planted them. Indeed, they have said that other scientists should test their conclusions by repeating the research. After calling experts “conspiracy kooks,” Alex then damns them for not putting forward “a scenario of the alleged conspiracy.”
Moreover, not a single one of the experts believes the towers “pancaked.” This was an early explanation that, I believe, was tentatively put forward by NIST, but it had to be abandoned because of the speed with which the buildings came down and due to other problems.
Unlike Rall and Barnhardt, Cockburn does refer to evidence, but it is second or third-hand hearsay evidence that is nonsensical on its face. For example, Cockburn writes that Chuck Spinney “tells me that ‘there ARE pictures taken of the 757 plane hitting Pentagon--they were taken by the surveillance cameras at Pentagon’s heliport, which was right next to impact point. I have seen them both--stills and moving pictures. I just missed seeing it personally, but the driver of the van I just got out of in South Parking saw it so closely that he could see the terrified faces of passengers in windows.’”
If there were pictures or videos of an airliner hitting the Pentagon, they would have been released years ago. They would have been supplied to the 9/11 Commission. Why would the government refuse for 10 years to release pictures that prove its case? The FBI confiscated all film from all surveillance cameras. No one has seen them, much less a Pentagon critic such as Spinney.
I have to say that the van driver must have better eyes than an eagle if he could see expressions on passenger faces through those small airliner portholes in a plane traveling around 500 mph. Try it sometimes. Sit on your front steps and try to discern the expressions of automobile passengers through much larger and clearer windows traveling down your street in a vehicle moving 30 mph. Then kick the speed up 16.7 times to 500 mph and report if you see anything but a blur.
Cockburn’s other evidence that 9/11 truthers are kooks is a letter that Herman Soifer, who claims to be a retired structural engineer, wrote to him summarizing “the collapse of Buildings 1 and 2 succinctly.” This is what Soifer, who “had followed the plans and engineering of the Towers during construction” wrote to Alex: “The towers were basically tubes, essentially hollow.” This canard was disposed of years ago. If Alex had merely googled the plans of the buildings, he would have discovered that there were no thin-walled hollow tubes, but a very large number of massively thick steel beams.
Cockburn's willingness to dismiss as kooks numerous acknowledged experts on the basis of a claim that a van driver saw terrified faces of passengers moving at 500 mph and a totally erroneous description in a letter from a person who knew nothing whatsoever about the structural integrity of the buildings means that he is a much braver person than I.
Before I call architects kooks whose careers were spent building steel high rises, I would want to know a lot more about the subject than I do. Before I poke fun at nano-chemists and physicists, I would want to at least be able to read their papers and find the scientific flaws in their arguments.
Yet, none of the people who ridicule 9/11 skeptics are capable of this. How, for example, can Rall, Barnhardt, or Cockburn pass judgment on a nano-chemist with 40 years of experience and 60 scientific publications to his credit?
They cannot, but nevertheless do. They don’t hesitate to pass judgment on issues about which they have no knowledge or understanding. This is an interesting psychological phenomenon worthy of study and analysis.
Another interesting phenomenon is the strong emotional reactions that many have to 9/11, an event about which they have little information. Even the lead members of the 9/11 Commission itself have said that information was withheld from them and the commission was set up to fail. People who rush to the defense of NIST do not even know what they are defending as NIST refuses to release the details of the simulation upon which NIST bases its conclusion.
There is no 9/11 debate.
On the one hand there are credentialed experts who demonstrate problems in the official account, and on the other hand there are non-experts who denounce the experts as conspiracy kooks.
The experts are cautious and careful about what they say, and their detractors have thrown caution and care to the wind. That is the state of the debate.
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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 9:53:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: All (#1)
Col. Robert Bowman’s official statement on 9/11:
“The official explanation in the NIST report violates the laws of physics. It is physically impossible for a building (or anything else) to fall at near-free- fall speed and do work (smashing steel and concrete) on the way down. An external energy input (like explosives) is absolutely essential. In addition, for the top of one of the towers to tip about 30 degrees and NOT continue tipping and falling off violates the law of conservation of angular momentum. The symmetrical collapse of building 7 due to highly asymmetrical damage is also unbelievable. We have not yet been told the truth. If the government has nothing to hide, why continue to hide everything? Why not a new and truly independent investigation?”
Col. Bowman is a highly decorated fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions in Vietnam. In addition to being a rocket scientist, defense expert, and fighter pilot, Col Bowman was also a College Professor, and an executive in both government and industry.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 10:14:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2) (Edited)
the truthers would probably be more successful if they'd explain 9/11's function as PNAC's solution to global peak oil.
as it stands, people cant really make much sense of the situation, other than boilerplate alex jones-type whining about the evilness of our leaders...
once you connect the dots... peak oil to 9/11 to the "global war on terror" to oily muslims to israel's dependence on american protection to america's dependence on cheap oil, it all makes more sense.
after you get your head around that, you can start looking at zionist behavior, their history of false flag operations, zionist control of america, and all the rest of it...
then it all starts making sense... and it's no coincidence that the neocons' go- to guy for peak oil denial, daniel yergin, released his new book on the tenth anniversary of 9/11, an occasion most notable for its celebration of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory.
it's all bullshit, but you can make sense of it if you have the facts.... but some assembly is required.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-09-21 10:38:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
The following letter was sent to the CEO of a major national corporation whom I met at a private social function last week:

Please, a CEO of a major corporation knows 9/11 was made in Israel already. How do you think they became the CEO? They will never acknowledge such publicly. Only those that care about the truth will acknowledge it in public.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2011-09-21 10:50:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)
of course, some of us are inclined to rely on divine intervention, or abiotic oil, or the magic hand of the markets, or whatever, to solve the oil problem.
too bad our PNAC masters dont have much faith in any of that stuff, and have reverted to their default position --"might makes right", "noble lies", and false flags-- for the solution to peak oil.
and if the PNAC folks dont believe in divine intervention, or abiotic oil, or market forces, or new technology or any of that other stuff, it most certainly doesnt stop them from peddling all those theories in an attempt to obscure their real motive for committing 9/11.

lead.and.lag posted on 2011-09-21 10:50:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)
Thanks.
~~~~~~~
The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?
"What People Don't Know About 9/11... Is Killing People."
wakeup posted on 2011-09-21 11:07:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
Why hide ? Because the guillotine needs sharpening.

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2011-09-21 11:10:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: James Deffenbach, All, *9-11* (#0) (Edited)
To determine why folks don't
know what is really going on
we should each make a list
of friends and family that we
have given a 9/11 DVD to in
the last ten years. Then, we
should look in the mirror.

We have these 9/11DVD titles for a dollar or two each:
"Architects & Engineers, Blueprint for 9/11Truth"
"9/11 Missing Links"
"Loose Change, Eyewitness, Terror Storm, Road to Tyranny combo"
"Hollywood Speaks Out"
"A&E Experts Speak Out"
"David Ray Griffin 9/11 Lecture"
"Pilots for 9/11 Truth"
"The Pentago Attack"

And others.
http://onedollardvdproject.com/Cat3/
~~~~~~~
The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?
"What People Don't Know About 9/11... Is Killing People."
wakeup posted on 2011-09-21 11:29:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
I've spent this past week riding this video at youtube called 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - it's a nice 5 minute review of the story we are supposed to believe ... the creator add a lil tude but for the most part, it is the official story and strung together like he did it, their story looks damn silly....
Watching the shills and trolls attack has been enlightening ... one decent post from a person asking a real question that proves they can think, is covered up with 10 posts of vulgar BS - personal attacks, anything to distract...

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
Amandil posted on 2011-09-21 13:26:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Amandil (#9)
Outstanding - thanks.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod posted on 2011-09-21 13:40:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: RickyJ (#4)
Please, a CEO of a major corporation knows 9/11 was made in Israel already.

Please tell us who it was in Israel who ordered the NORAD stand down. I have never yet seen anyone who claimed to know that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 15:08:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: wakeup (#6)
Thanks.

You're welcome.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 15:09:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Lysander_Spooner (#7)
Why hide ? Because the guillotine needs sharpening.

I would imagine it is already razor sharp. Of course when they start executing people with it, it won't stay that way. But they'll use it even when it gets dull.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 15:10:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: wakeup (#8)
Sounds like you have enough videos to convince anyone who could be convinced.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 15:11:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Amandil (#9)
That is a superb video. I downloaded it just in case youtube decides to delete it. Thanks for posting it.
For those who might not have the youtube downloader it is a pretty good little app. Here's a link for anyone who might be interested.
youtubedownloader.com/
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 15:14:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
That is a superb video. I downloaded it just in case youtube decides to delete it. Thanks for posting it

yw ~ glad to be able to share something of this quality ... been there covering up the posts of the trolls n shills all week and enjoyed it a bit *s one side offers facts, the other side offers vulgar insults ... 2 other folks I don't know have been copying some of my posts and dropping them in ... I've been doing it with theirs as well ... balancing the BS with data a real seeker can use ...

~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
Amandil posted on 2011-09-21 15:26:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Amandil (#16)
You might use some of this too.
CAPT. RUSS WITTENBERG Former USAF Fighter pilot with 100+ Combat Missions; retired PanAm & United Airlines Captain; 30,000+ hrs flying experience.
Capt. Wittenberg had previously flown two of the planes that were “hijacked” on 9/11 -- Flight 93 that allegedly “crashed” in Shanksville (it was actually shot down), and flight 175, the plane that hit the South Tower.
Wittenberg states unequivocally that for Hani Hanjour, the Hijacker who allegedly flew the plane that hit the Pentagon -- but who was refused the rental of a little Cessna because of his bad flying skills — to have done so would have been absolutely impossible.
"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total BS, plain and simple...For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible -- there is not one chance in a thousand... Besides, there was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile."

Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Commercial aircraft flown include Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which “crashed” in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Video interview in 9/11 Ripple Effect http:// 8/07:
“I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175, and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville. Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible. Like I said, for a so-called terrorist to train on a Cessna 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757/767-class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. The aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it.
“The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple. There was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn.
For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand. “
Wittenberg recalled that when he made the jump from Boeing 727s to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737s through 767s, it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying the bigger aircraft.
Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon: "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what’s called a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high-G maneuvers at those bank angles. To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous.
“It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon! The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile.”
Question to the reader: Is Capt. Wittenberg, too, another “crackpot conspiracy theorist”?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-09-21 18:17:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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