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Title: $16 muffins, $8 coffee served in Justice audit
Source: Townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/news/us/2011/09 ... coffee_served_in_justice_audit
Published: Sep 21, 2011
Author: JoAnne Allen
Post Date: 2011-09-21 21:30:00 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 179
Comments: 14

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As the government grapples to find ways to trim the bloated federal deficit, a new report suggests officials might start with cutting out $16 muffins and $10 cookies.

"We found the Department (of Justice) spent $16 on each of the 250 muffins served at an August 2009 legal conference in Washington," said a DOJ Office of Inspector General report released on Tuesday.

The DOJ spent $121 million on conferences in fiscal 2008 and 2009, which exceeded its own spending limits and appeared to be extravagant and wasteful, according to the report that examined 10 conferences held during that period.

The review turned up the expensive muffins, which came from the Capital Hilton Hotel just blocks from the White House, as well as cookies and brownies that cost almost $10 each.

The department spent $32 per person on snacks of Cracker Jack, popcorn, and candy bars and coffee that cost $8.24 per cup at another conference, the report said.

The DOJ also spent nearly $600,000 for event planning services for five conferences, the document said.

A Justice Department spokeswoman said most of the gathering were held when there were no strict limits on food and beverage costs, adding the DOJ had taken steps since 2009 "to ensure that these problems do not occur again."

Word of the agency's extravagant spending drew a swift response from Capitol Hill.

Senator Chuck Grassley, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee which has oversight of the Justice Department, said the report was a blueprint for the first cuts that should be made by the "super committee" searching for at least $1.2 trillion in savings.

"Sixteen dollar muffins and $600,000 for event planning services are what make Americans cynical about government and why they are demanding change," Grassley said in a statement. "People are outraged, and rightly so."

(Reporting by JoAnne Allen; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)


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This is one reason (among many) why I would NEVER find anyone guilty for not filing and paying the damnable income tax (which is improperly applied to that which is not income and that's another reason).

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

The review turned up the expensive muffins, which came from the Capital Hilton Hotel just blocks from the White House, as well as cookies and brownies that cost almost $10 each.

I was thinking starbucks. Prices are about the same.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-21   21:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

How far beyond obscene is this?

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-21   21:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: farmfriend (#1)

I was thinking starbucks. Prices are about the same.

As far as I'm concerned if people want to waste their own money on overpriced coffee and pastries that is their business. But these people weren't wasting their own money--and I very seriously doubt any of them would even consider spending their own money that way.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-21   21:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#2)

How far beyond obscene is this?

Hey, it's just government money.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-21   22:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

As far as I'm concerned if people want to waste their own money on overpriced coffee and pastries that is their business. But these people weren't wasting their own money--and I very seriously doubt any of them would even consider spending their own money that way.

Exactly and agreed! and in the over all budget this is small potatoes but it shows a mentality that is pervasive.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-21   22:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#5)

Exactly and agreed! and in the over all budget this is small potatoes but it shows a mentality that is pervasive.

You know the drill--16 dollar muffin here, ten dollar brownie there, billion dollar useless defense system somewhere else and pretty soon we're not just broke but beyond broke.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-21   22:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6) (Edited)

You know the drill--16 dollar muffin here, ten dollar brownie there, billion dollar useless defense system somewhere else and pretty soon we're not just broke but beyond broke.

LOL exactly.

One of the best parts in the movie Independence Day was when they ask were they get the money to fund that secret UFO research and Jud Hersch says, well don't really believe they spend $15,000 on a hammer, $25,000 for a toilet seat do you? Not an exact quote but you get the idea. Sad thing is they really do spend that.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-21   22:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#7)

Yeah, I know. I wrote a book back in the 80's which is now out of print and I had one chapter devoted to government boondoggles. They are numerous to say the least.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-21   22:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

I wrote a book back in the 80's

wow I'm impressed.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-21   22:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9)

Thank you.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-21   22:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Its true name should be called "slave tax", cause that is exactly what it is. We work for them and must pay them the fruit of our labours while they sit back and make our women their sex slaves.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-22   8:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#11)

Its true name should be called "slave tax"

I have called it that for years. The word "income" has been bastardized so much that most people believe it means "everything that comes in" but that is not what it used to mean. Its original meaning and the meaning it had when it was inserted into the Constitution (and never legally ratified) meant "profits and gains" and those terms are synonymous. And there is no profit in an "equal exchange." An "equal exchange" occurs when you work for someone and he (or she) pays you what he agreed to pay you for the work you performed. No profit there. If you invest some of your money in some stocks or bonds and they go up more than the rate of inflation and you sell them and get more than you paid for them, that is a profit, or "income."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-22   10:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach (#12)

If you invest some of your money in some stocks or bonds and they go up more than the rate of inflation and you sell them and get more than you paid for them, that is a profit, or "income."

That's true, but if they don't make a profit you don't see the IRS sharing the losses with you. Nope, they only share the gains. I don't even think investments should be taxed. Imports should be taxed, that's all.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-09-22   10:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#13)

I was only giving an example of something that actually constituted "income," and never said that I thought the government should get any of the profit. As you say they don't clamor to share the losses (of course they do that well enough on their own).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-22   11:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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