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Title: Another 9/11 Hose Job
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Published: Sep 23, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-09-23 20:30:25 by Lod
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Views: 390
Comments: 17


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Citing scope of 9/11, NY judge tosses 7 WTC suit 8 minutes ago By LARRY NEUMEISTER Associated Press (AP:NEW YORK) In tossing out a negligence lawsuit, a judge on Friday cited the "strange, improbable" events that destroyed a 47-story World Trade Center building a decade ago on Sept. 11, several hours after the 110-story twin towers fell. The claims by the Consolidated Edison Co. of New York were "too farfetched and tenuous" to survive, U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein said. The company had sued Citigroup Inc. and a company owned by developer Larry Silverstein for damages, saying negligence occurred when World Trade Center Tower 7's commercial tenants were allowed to install diesel-fueled-backup generators that provided fuel that burned for hours after hijacked planes struck two nearby towers on the 16-acre development. Tower 7 fell at 5:21 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2001, nearly seven hours after the other buildings collapsed. A Con Edison power station beneath Tower 7 was crushed when the building fell. A message for comment left with Con Edison was not immediately returned. "Con Edison, in order to succeed, must overcome the improbability of a long chain of events, one acting upon another," Hellerstein wrote. "I hold that the chain was much too improbable." Silverstein's company, 7WTCo., and Citigroup had argued that the events of Sept. 11 were unforeseeable and had caused the harm to the substation. Construction of Tower 7 was completed in 1987. The diesel generator was installed in the building's fifth floor after Salomon Brothers, which was acquired by Citigroup, received permission to install two diesel tanks with a capacity to store 6,000 gallons of fuel that attached to the generator through pressurized fuel lines. Salomon Brothers had said it needed the generator to power an around-the-clock trading floor. Con Edison had maintained that fuel from the diesel tanks heightened the intensity of a fire that began when debris from the destruction of the other towers entered the building. Hellerstein said it was not reasonable for Silverstein and Citigroup to foresee the "strange, improbable, and attenuated chain of events that led to 7 World Trade Center's collapse and the crushing of Con Edison's substation." He added: "Nothing in common experience of history could give rise to a reasonably foreseeable risk relating to the chain of events flowing from the terrorists and their hijackings to the destruction of the Con Edison substation." The judge said it was well established in New York law that a landlord or controller of a premises has no duty to protect tenants from unprecedented criminal acts of others. Earlier this week, Silverstein announced that the new 52-story 7 World Trade Center, completed in 2006, is fully leased.

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#1. To: Lod (#0)

Con Edison had maintained that fuel from the diesel tanks heightened the intensity of a fire that began when debris from the destruction of the other towers entered the building.

huh? i'm not getting this. is the judge saying that the building free fall collapsed from fire from the fuel of the two diesel generators inside? and funny how buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 didn't do the same. 7 was a football field distance away and had little debris hit it.

christine  posted on  2011-09-23   23:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#1)

huh? i'm not getting this. is the judge saying that the building free fall collapsed from fire from the fuel of the two diesel generators inside? and funny how buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 didn't do the same. 7 was a football field distance away and had little debris hit it.

Exactly.

No one's getting this one.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-23   23:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#0)

9/11 - The Ultimate Con

1:54:23 - 4 years ago One of the finest 9/11 news and media documentaries that covers 9/11 and the coming police state. Made by a member of the Loose Change Forums.

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-09-23   23:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itistoolate, wakeup, 4 (#3)

Yes, one of the DVD's that I hand out on a regular basis.

Maybe it will awaken some viewers.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-09-23   23:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod, christine (#2)

No one's getting this

Judge Alvin HELLerSTEIN gives SilverSTEIN a free pass?? What's not to get? ;-/

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-09-24   0:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#0)

Hellerstein said it was not reasonable for Silverstein and Citigroup to foresee the "strange, improbable, and attenuated chain of events that led to 7 World Trade Center's collapse and the crushing of Con Edison's substation."

A lot of Jews seem to have foreseen 9/11 and profited from it.

Isn't this the same judge that spirited the Mossad high-fivers off to Israel?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-09-24   2:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, All (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-24   4:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod, Itistoolate (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-24   4:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

THE ULTIMATE CON is indeed one film that impressed me such years ago that i went to their website asking how to buy it, but never got a reply. great film though. For a buck? wakeup sounds like the best bet.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-09-24   5:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#9)

I'm on it.

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The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

"What People Don't Know About 9/11... Is Killing People."

wakeup  posted on  2011-09-24   10:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-24   12:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#0)

There's also this from Werewolf's Interesting New Research thread on Pravda's 9/11 Forum:

View Postarthurborges, on 08 June 2011 - 03:48 PM, said: There were no Arabic names on any of the passenger manifests for those fatal flights. It was the first thing I checked. It is the first thing any journalist or investigator checks. The journalists will be looking for celebrities and the investigators, for "persons of interest".

You can't board an airliner without a boarding card. You can't get a boarding card without presenting ID at check-in.

You don't want to try to push your way past the little ladies in front of the jetdoor. They have backup. And it just attracts way more grief than you want to handle, especially when you've barely started digesting your breakfast.

Finally, the pursar makes a headcount inside the cabin before take-off. Four or five extra passengers freaks out pursars and their captains.

In summary, we are still expected to believe that, within minutes of each other in four different places, four to five individuals managed to skip check-in, fool security and make it past the boarding desk right in front of the jetdoor, with nobody noticing a thing.

Werewolf (RRBum from LibertyForum days) No Arab names on any of the passenger manifests shown in the media - they have still kept the original documents top secret! No boarding passes, No boarding videos or airport surveillance videos, no Arab names on that bullshit DNA list their FBI claims to have made from the plane they claim struck the Pentagon, no half the alleged Arabs were alive ane well after 911 (re BBC), no testimonies from the checkpoint personnel that supposedly let all those Arabs through their metal detector checkpoints with all their hijack gear - boxcutters, knives, guns, mace, gas masks, navigational equipment - all reported in various official desriptions of the event, plus the alleged Arab hijackers couldn't even flya tiny Cessna let alone agiant passenger jet in impossible below tree top level hairpin turns (Pentagon).

engforum.pravda.ru/index....1-flights/page__st__19040

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-09-25   2:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton, wakeup (#11)

is it there?

lod said in a post above that he passes that one out so yes i assume that wakeup has it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-09-25   4:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Artisan, wakeup (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-25   10:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

No, but, I will go get it. Is it copyrighted?

~~~~~~~

The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?

"What People Don't Know About 9/11... Is Killing People."

wakeup  posted on  2011-09-25   11:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

okay then. i guess that's why it's good to ask specific questions. ;-) reading posts 3 & 4, it looked like that movie was the one lod was referring to. i still think loose change & 911 IN PLANE SITE are best ones for new folks

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-09-25   12:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wakeup (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-09-25   21:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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