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Title: Bride who shot husband 'thought it was a blank'
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URL Source: http://www.thelocal.ch/1261/20110922/
Published: Sep 24, 2011
Author: Tanya Hogan
Post Date: 2011-09-24 08:29:52 by Tatarewicz
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Comments: 63
A newlywed Swiss woman from Basel who killed her husband in a tragic gun accident in March has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter but will not serve a prison sentence. 32-year old “Nadia N“ was handed a nine-month suspended sentence by Basel Criminal Court on Wednesday, Blick newspaper reported. The woman cried as she told the court the accident happened while playing with her husband Victor’s gun at their home in the Gundeli area, south of Basel city centre, on Sunday March 20th. She explained she did not know it was loaded. Although they first met in 1996, the home care assistant and her musician husband did not marry until the beginning of March 2011. The tragedy occurred in their house two weeks later while their 13-year old son was staying with a friend. Her husband was always handling his gun, the woman told the court. Even on the day before the deadly shot was fired, he polished his weapon while sitting in front of the TV and smoking a joint. Nadia N. told her husband she wanted to fetch the family register from the safe. Victor’s gun, a Glock 17-caliber 9x19mm automatic, was also locked up there. “As I opened the safe, he called saying he wanted the gun,“ she said. “I wanted to pretend I wasn’t afraid.“ Play-acting, she told the court she held the gun to her 35-year old husband’s temple. “Hands up“, she joked. Her husband, not believing the gun to be loaded, urged her to pull the trigger. When she eventually did, the gun went off and her husband slumped to the floor. She called an ambulance but he was dead before it arrived. She was held in police custody for two nights but investigators soon came to conclusion that her husband may have loaded the gun with a real bullet rather than a blank while under the influence of marijuana. The judge found Nadia N. guilty of involuntary manslaughter, but reasoned that "the consequences of what happened are so heavy that an exemption of punishment is justified.“
Besides what's reported it seems pretty stupid to mix blanks and shells in a single gun.
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#5. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Who in their right mind would load a Glock with blanks in the first place? It sure as hell wouldn't do any good against an armed intruder. Besides, even if it was a blank, it still would have blasted a hole if the barrel was placed right up against the temple. Sounds to me that either he forgot he had left a round in the chamber, or the wife put one in herself. Maybe he didn't "urge her to pull the trigger" as she claims, and she decided that she was going to do him in. Who knows. But then again, even our "heroes" sometimes forget that their guns are loaded...
He's da only one who is professional enough to play wid dat Glock up in dere! And don't you forget it either.
I always get a chuckle out of that...
I thought I would fall out of my chair laughing at that big dummy the first time I ever saw that. Very next thing after he tells the kids what a professional he is, he shoots himself. You can't make that $#it up!
You'd think he'd at least have the sense to end the presentation after he shot himself and walk off with a least a grain a dignity. Oh no, he wants to hold an AK-47 for the class afterwards, till the kids tell him "NO, put it down". I think the guy had to quit the DEA, he was the butt of so many jokes he couldn't work there anymore. Then again maybe he was sampling too much of the evidence, maybe THAT'S what happened that day... LOL
I think the guy had to quit the DEA, he was the butt of so many jokes he couldn't work there anymore. Then again maybe he was sampling too much of the evidence, maybe THAT'S what happened that day... LOL Actually it was an AR15 or M16 he asked for after the shooting. And he sued the DEA for releasing the tape and exposing him to ridicule. In his suit he claimed that he was "one of the best if not THE BEST undercover agent in the DEA". Do you believe that? Even after leg shooting himself his arrogance was undiminished.
here's page two from the former DEA agent's complaint, found here.
Funny that it didn't mention him showing the little kiddies how to shoot yourself with an unloaded gun. Guess he didn't think that was too important.
Good point! In DE when hunter education courses are taught in schools there are strict rules about the firearms and ammo used in the classes. Specifically, "never the twain shall meet on school property". Now, I suppose the school system where Agent Lee Paige put those kids' lives in jeopardy wouldn't have dreamed of setting safety standards for agents of FEDGOV, Inc. But, did they know that the agent conducting the show and tell would be an arrogant, stupid 85-IQ jackass who probably points at words when he reads and who never completely read or comprehended the simplest fundamentals of firearms safety? And what do you wanna bet that the AR15 he asked for (as he was going into shock) was also loaded? Can anyone explain why the weapon he used in the demo was loaded at all? If he felt the need to always be armed for his protection then that weapon should have remained holstered and another unloaded but identical weapon used in the demonstration. There are simple rules that amount to idiot proofing for reasons that require no explanation or justification. Of course had the school made such suggestions prior to his negligent (not accidental) discharge, he'd have no doubt been indignant at the implication that there was any risk at all as he, Mr. "I Bee da ownlee Mo Fo heah qualified to handle dis heah bad ass fawty!", showed his stupidity while putting others in serious danger. All it takes is one mistake and we learn why the rules are so absolute and necessary. Sadly, he didn't learn the hard way before his You Tube debut, and he didn't believe that the rules applied to him because he was just so darn special! And the diff between his last class and my outdoor education class is, I'd be held responsible if my negligence resulted in the death of a trusting innocent, but federal agents can literally get away with murder as FBI HRT sniper Lon Horiuchi proved after killing Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge. (the rules of engagement were changed on the spot but Vicki was neither armed nor the target of Horiuchi's bullet-her death was pursuant to the sniper's "lawful performance of his duties" despite the improvised "out of policy" rule change. And lets not forget the mass murder at WACO by Delta Force operatives and FBI who laid in wait and machine gunned all who were able to escape the collapsing inferno) "Dear Occupant, On behalf of The Attorney General and The Director of The DEA we'd like to express our sincere condolences on the loss of your son, Johnny Junior. As you know the agent who was present during the tragedy feels terrible as well, and the weapon is being inspected by experts to isolate and identify the mechanical malfunction that was likely responsible for your son's death. And, let me assure you that no matter the outcome this public relations disaster will go on Agent Lee Paige's permanent record and will be considered when he is eligible for future promotions and/or merit pay raises. This action is actually quite harsh because your son's death was "pursuant to Agent Paige's lawful performance of his duties" which is regrettably also why the court denied your motion to sue the agent or The DEA". Sincerely, Pontius Q. Despot, Deputy Director, US DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION (signed and initialed by The DD's personal secretary-GF-Gennifer Flowers and mailed with the proper postage affixed to Johnny Junior's last known address and Parent Of Record)
That was a great post, DAWG. Funny in a sad kind of way if you follow.
#45. To: James Deffenbach (#44)
Indeed I do my friend. I (try to) laugh to keep from crying because my country is no more. Can you believe that the DEA sent out that self promoting hot dog with no training or rules for the safe handling of firearms? Remember these are the guys who can go down to the basement and shoot without a range officer to supervise, and many cops and feds have little or no prior experience with hand guns. So bad habits become ingrained and are reinforced by the myth that LEOs are gun experts after 8 hrs or so of classroom training and perhaps 60 rounds fired during annual quals. Remember that out of the 41 rounds fired by the NYPD's elite "jump out squad" at Amadou Diallo at near-point blank range the cops missed with all but 19. There were too many misses to call them warning shots of course. Hell, I knew a LAPD guy who had to borrow 6 rounds of FEDERAL JSP .38 cal ammo from me for his annual qual, (I carried the same ammo as the LAPD then) and after he went to the range and was issued 18 fresh rounds he gave me 6, and he drove around with one empty Speed Loader on his belt for the next year! I offered to let him keep the ammo he owed me just so he wouldn't be handicapped but he didn't seem to care that the ammo he shot off for funzies made him permanently short on his issued ammo. In fact he seemed secretly proud of his silent protest against his department. 30 years ago I read a book called STREET SURVIVAL: TACTICS FOR ARMED ENCOUNTERS (PALADIN PRESS) and it showed me lots of pix of dead cops who weren't making new and unusual mistakes, but the same ones again and again. (One cop tried to pry up a manhole cover with his gun barrel and he ended up with a "revolver that shoots around corners". The book didn't reveal whether he tried to shoot the gun) And who can forget the Metro rail cop who shot and killed a man who was face down on a train platform because the cop believed he "was reaching for (his) TASER"? No, there's entirely too much TV and film hype about cops and guns, so much so that the public seldom challenges it and cops start to believe it. And former DEA Super Agent Lee Paige didn't brag about how he was "one of the best if not the best player in the NFL" because his record (one year with Tampa Bay Buccaneers) speaks the truth about that. Lee Paige was born on Sunday, October 16, 1960 in Jackson , MS and he is a famous American football player. Life in Brief: - Being born on Oct 16, Lee is a Libra. - he is 6'0'' (183 cm) tall. - his weight is 197 lbs (89 kg). - he has a gaming experience of 1 year. - Lee attended the Florida State University. Years and teams he played for: - in 1987 for Tampa Bay Buccaneers He went from being too modest to admit that he was "da best agent in the universe" (classroom video and lawsuit filing) to merely, "a productive agent and not some bum an' buffoon that shot hisself in the foot"! (above video) HAH! "Paige accuses fellow DEA officers of leaking the tape as he struggle to REGAIN RESPECT(?) as a husband, father and lawman" I RESPECTfully submit that if he wasn't such a horse's ass his fellow agents wouldn't have torpedoed him...and he cannot regain what he never had. He should have asked someone to read the Glock owner's manual to him because Mr. "NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS EBONICS-I went to Florida State UNAVERS..uhh...UNOVERS...uhh...UNEVERS...uhh...COLLEGE!" didn't know that riding a Glock trigger into the holster is a common mistake that results in too many leg shots.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestShe was held in police custody for two nights but investigators soon came to conclusion that her husband may have loaded the gun with a real bullet rather than a blank while under the influence of marijuana.
#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
He's da only one who is professional enough to play wid dat Glock up in dere! And don't you forget it either.
#9. To: FormerLurker (#7)
I always get a chuckle out of that...
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
#21. To: FormerLurker (#10)
You'd think he'd at least have the sense to end the presentation after he shot himself and walk off with a least a grain a dignity. Oh no, he wants to hold an AK-47 for the class afterwards, till the kids tell him "NO, put it down".
#37. To: All, FormerLurker, James Deffenbach, randge, Lod, Jethro Tull (#21)
#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
#43. To: James Deffenbach, Lod, christine, Eric Stratton, wudidiz (#41)
Funny that it didn't mention him showing the little kiddies how to shoot yourself with an unloaded gun. Guess he didn't think that was too important.
#44. To: HOUNDDAWG (#43)
Replies to Comment # 44. Funny in a sad kind of way if you follow
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