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Title: Why Do Republicans Hate Social Security?
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Published: Sep 24, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-09-24 14:38:00 by tom007
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Republicans hate Social Security because it has been an extraordinary success and has done exactly what it was designed to do. It is the most successful government program in our nation's history and is enormously popular.

When Social Security was developed, 50 percent of seniors lived in poverty. Today, that number is 10 percent -- still too high, but a testament to the success of Social Security.

Republicans have spent years demonizing Social Security and spreading lies about its sustainability. They want to scare Americans and build support for making drastic cuts to the program or privatizing it entirely. Their long-term goal is to end Social Security as we know it, and convert it into a private account system which will enable Wall Street to make hundreds of billions in profits.

The truth is that today, according to the Social Security Administration, Social Security has a $2.7 trillion surplus and can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible American for the next 25 years.

Further, because it is funded by the payroll tax and not the U.S. Treasury, Social Security has not contributed one nickel to our deficit.

Now -- in a prolonged recession that has decimated the poor and middle class and pushed more Americans into poverty than at any point in modern history -- we need to strengthen Social Security. That's why I, along with nine co-sponsors, have introduced the "Keeping Our Social Security Promises Act." This legislation would lift the Social Security Payroll tax cap on all income over $250,000 a year, would require millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share into the Social Security Trust Fund, and would extend the program for the next 75 years.

For 76 years, through good times and bad, Social Security has paid out every benefit owed to every eligible American. The most effective way to strengthen Social Security for the next 76 years is to scrap the payroll tax cap for those earning $250,000 a year or more.

Right now, someone who earns $106,800 pays the same amount of money into Social Security as billionaires like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. That is because today, all income above $106,800 is exempt from the Social Security tax. As a result, 94% of Americans pay Social Security tax on all of their income, but the wealthiest 6% do not.

That makes no sense.

The "Keeping Our Social Security Promises Act" will ensure the long-term solvency of Social Security without cutting benefits, raising the retirement age or raising taxes on the middle class.

Social Security is keeping tens of millions of seniors out of poverty today. I can think of no more important issue facing our country today than making sure that Social Security remains strong for generations to come.

Join me and Democracy for America in fighting to strengthen Social Security -- Sign on as a citizen co-sponsor of the Keeping Our Social Security Promises Act.

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#7. To: tom007 (#0)

The truth is that today, according to the Social Security Administration, Social Security has a $2.7 trillion surplus and can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible American for the next 25 years

That's an outright lie. The money tax payers are forced to shell out for this ponzi scheme on a yearly basis is placed into the general fund and spent. There is no surplus. There are only IOU's which will be worthless if the economy tanks like many of the experts insist.

Social Security is keeping tens of millions of seniors out of poverty today. I can think of no more important issue facing our country today than making sure that Social Security remains strong for generations to come.

And these scumbag pieces of shit would enslave us all in order to take care of their worthless asses. I'm not responsible for the health and welfare of anyone other than the seniors in my family and those I CHOSE to help. Everyone else can fuck off, die, and rot in their shit for all I care. I ask nothing from them other than to be left the fuck alone. it's not unreasonable to expect the same from them.

It is an established fact that there are more baby boomers than there are gen Xer's, gen Yer's, etc. It's not a sustainable program. How much money will these maggots demand we give them as the worker per senior gets smaller and smaller?? The fuckers don't want to live at home with their children like it's been for time immemorial. They got in their head that they have a right to live independently. No, they don't. Not if they can only do it at the expense of my children and my own retirement.

I'm not a Republican but I hate Socialist Security because I am willing and able to get better returns on that money. I resent having it taken from me by threat of violence and used in a program that will not be there when it is time for me to retire and if by chance happens to be there will not even provide enough money for me to live on.

Social Security is nothing more than a way for the government to enslave a large group of people and make them dependent upon the government.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-09-24   15:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

And these scumbag pieces of shit would enslave us all in order to take care of their worthless asses.

Who contributed from EVERY Pay Check their entire working life.

The problem with Social Security is not the general idea of a National Pension Fund ensuring enough for those no longer able to work to survive. The problem is that it has been MISMANAGED in a CRIMINAL manner by the corrupt fiduciary.

There is no reason for Social Security to be a problem except solely and only because of corruption.

The payroll withholding was increased to it's current level in 1990 because Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan had the foresight to attempt to ensure that it never became a problem.

So, basically what you are advocating is that the victims of a financial crime should just fucking die for your convenience.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-24   16:59:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Who contributed from EVERY Pay Check their entire working life...

...So, basically what you are advocating is that the victims of a financial crime should just fucking die for your convenience.

That money is gone. In economics it is called a sunk cost. What more it is gone because it was spent on big government - big government that the American people demanded. Instead of focusing on sunk costs what you should be focusing on are the opportunity costs lost because of SS.

Yes, if seniors were so irresponsible that they relied solely on SS for their retirement then hell yes they can all just fucking die for my convenience. They should be relying on their children to take care of them and not using the power of government to rob me and my family for their convenience. And spare me this financial crime bullshit. Your claims of victimization makes you sound like a Jew. Politicians have been stealing from social security with the full knowledge and acceptance of the American people for many, many decades. It isn't a big secret. The American people decided that this was perfectly acceptable behavior on the part of their elected representatives and rewarded them and their party accordingly with reelection year after year, decade after decade. Claiming a financial crime after this amount of time is ludicrous.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-09-24   17:47:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#16)

Yes, if seniors were so irresponsible that they relied solely on SS for their retirement then hell yes they can all just fucking die for my convenience. They should be relying on their children to take care of them and not using the power of government to rob me and my family for their convenience.

But they are NOT robbing you. The politicians who stole the money are robbing you.

As well many of the people who now rely on Social Security had pensions which were either stolen or mismanaged e.g., the employees of Enron.

In essence you are insisting that the victim of the crime suffer the consequences due the perpetrator of the crime.

You can try to wiggle around, but that is what it boils down to.

A contract was made between the government and beneficiary. That contract was not an option. Those workers who paid into it were required by law to pay into Social Security contingent upon an implied contract to pay out at a future date. In essence it was a forced Insurance Premium. The participants had no option, and no say in the matter.

The argument as to whether Social Security should be revamped or done away with is a separate argument.

Experience with what has happened should guide any such decision but ethically, and legally, per the laws of contracts, it should have NO bearing upon what is due current beneficiaries of the program. Sufficient monies were paid in, had they been soundly managed, to pay any benefits currently due.

And spare me this financial crime bullshit. Your claims of victimization makes you sound like a Jew. Politicians have been stealing from social security with the full knowledge and acceptance of the American people for many, many decades. It isn't a big secret.

Sticks and stones - etc., .... When you begin to rely on ad hominems it is a tacit admission that you know your argument is unsound. I think until recent times people did not give it much thought as they felt it was so secure as to be of no concern - other than when the cranks who don't like the program, usually financially secure, began trying to do away with a program they did not want to pay into.

I am not arguing that Social Security is a perfect program, but ensuring that the contract is kept with those who have paid into it, and rely on it, regardless of the heat and fulminations, is ethically sound.

The American people decided that this was perfectly acceptable behavior on the part of their elected representatives ...

And you know that how? References? You have stated a generalization as a universal. It is an unfounded assertion and thus logically invalid.

You can find people who were protesting the mismanagement going back into the 60's and 70's, and they were always reassured by their Congresscritters that all was well and that the contract would be kept.

While there is an argument to be made with either reforming or abolishing Social Security honor alone dictates that the contract be kept. And to a man of honor that is sufficient.

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