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Title: BBC Turns Its Back on Year of Our Lord: 2,000 Years of Christianity Jettisoned for Politically Correct 'Common Era'
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/spl3/the-civil-religion.html
Published: Sep 29, 2011
Author: Chris Hastings
Post Date: 2011-09-29 12:20:20 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 382
Comments: 17

The BBC has been accused of 'absurd political correctness' after dropping the terms BC and AD in case they offend non-Christians.

The Corporation has replaced the familiar Anno Domini (the year of Our Lord) and Before Christ with the obscure terms Common Era and Before Common Era.

Some of the BBC's most popular programmes including University Challenge, presented by Jeremy Paxman, and Radio 4's In Our Time, hosted by Melvyn Bragg, are among the growing number of shows using the new descriptions.

The BBC's religious and ethics department says the changes are necessary to avoid offending non-Christians.

It states: 'As the BBC is committed to impartiality it is appropriate that we use terms that do not offend or alienate non-Christians.

In line with modern practice, BCE/CE (Before Common Era/Common Era) are used as a religiously neutral alternative to BC/AD.'

But the move has angered Christians, mystified other faith leaders and been branded unnecessary by the Plain English Campaign. Critics say the new terms are meaningless because, just like AD and BC, they still denote years in relation to the life of Christ.

Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, the former Bishop of Rochester, said: 'I think this amounts to the dumbing down of the Christian basis of our culture, language and history. These changes are unnecessary and they don't achieve what the BBC wants them to achieve.

'Whether you use Common Era or Anno Domini, the date is actually still the same and the reference point is still the birth of Christ.'

Marie Clair of the Plain English Campaign said: 'As with most politically correct innovations, I am sure this was done with the best of intentions. But it is difficult to see what the point of the changes are if people do not understand the new terms. It sounds like change just for the sake of change.'

The website for BBC Religion and Ethics, headed by commissioning editor Aaqil Ahmed, who is a Muslim, is littered with references to Common Era and Before Common Era.

However, the BBC bizarrely insists the bbc.co.uk/religion website has nothing to do with Mr Ahmed and is actually the responsibility of BBC Learning.

The terms are not confined to religious output and have also been used in news bulletins. Some reports add to the confusion by switching between both terms in the same item.

A report on historic monuments in Jerusalem, for instance, informed viewers that Temple Mount, a shrine which is sacred to both Jews and Muslims, was built in '70 AD (the Common Era)'; while a recent report on frankincense quoted one reference to 7000 BC before describing another event as taking place in the 1st Century BCE.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

The BBC's religious and ethics department says the changes are necessary to avoid offending non-Christians.

but offending Christians is ok.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-29   12:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

but offending Christians is ok.

It's always open season on Christians. Jesus said it would be.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you.

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

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"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-29   13:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

But the move has angered Christians,

Angering xtians? It's simply not allowed. They are xtians! How dare they do anything to anger these representatives of gawd almighty. Surely they will be smited! Smote? Smitten? Oh fuck it. They're going to burn in HELL for this!!!!!!!

Some people have such thin skin.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-09-29   13:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

I think Christians need the equivalent of antisemitism.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-29   15:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA2, Ada (#3)

Some people have such thin skin.

we are just tired of being denied our religious rights in favor of everyone else's. You can't change historical stuff just because it originally had a religious connotation.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-29   15:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#1)

Someday it will be BT and AT.

You do know what that means, don't you?

"Terrorism is when the innocent are murdered due to the evil actions of the guilty." -- Turtle

Turtle  posted on  2011-09-29   15:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#5) (Edited)

we are just tired of being denied our religious rights in favor of everyone else's. You can't change historical stuff just because it originally had a religious connotation.

Name one right that has been taken away from you. Having something labeled BCE etc is not a denial of anyones rights.

Since not everyone is a christian (or for that matter a Satanist), or wants anything to do with it (or either one), opposition should be expected when one group tried to lord it over another group.

You have your rights, and we have ours, and they have theirs. Respect those rights and there is no reason for opposition.

Religious connotation is no reason to keep something, just for its own sake.

As a Satanist, I am so very disenfranchised that there isn't a Satanmas to go along with christmas. And personally I believe that in all religious fairness, all 72 Goetic Demons should each have a official holiday. But I'll just have to carry on the best I can...

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-09-29   15:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#4)

I think Christians need the equivalent of antisemitism.

Oh, I don't think this world is ever going to be all that welcoming to Christians. At least not most of it. And that is not a surprise to Christians, or shouldn't be. The first chapter of John speaks to this issue. It says, in verse 4, "...greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." And Matthew, chapter 5, verse 11 says, "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake." And verse 12 says, "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."

Knowing this, what difference does it make when people who don't know better say mean things about you? The best thing to do is to pray that they will see the light before they feel the heat.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-09-29   16:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#6)

Someday it will be BT and AT.

You do know what that means, don't you?

before turtle and after turtle of course.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-30   0:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PSUSA2 (#7)

Religious connotation is no reason to keep something, just for its own sake.

You will note that I also used the word historical. It is part of our history. It is similar to taking down the rebel flag because blacks might be offended. get over it.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-09-30   0:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend, BSUSATOO, PSUSA2 (#10)

Religious connotation is no reason to keep something, just for its own sake.

You will note that I also used the word historical. It is part of our history. It is similar to taking down the rebel flag because blacks might be offended. get over it.

Amen.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-09-30   0:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#10)

get over it.

That's funny. Like I am the one that is bitching about this? That my rights were violated?

This "BCE" etc was in use long before this incident that the article whines about. It's use is legitimate.

You can still use BC and AD if you want to. You have that right.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-09-30   6:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA2 (#12)

This "BCE" etc was in use long before this incident

By whom? As far as I can tell, CE came into use only in the past few years.

Ada  posted on  2011-09-30   6:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ada (#13)

I don't know. I'm not a historian. All I can say is that I've watched documentaries and read books where this term was used.

How far back it goes I dont know. The older I get the more time seems to distort. What I sometimes think happened 10 years ago or so really happened 20 years ago.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-09-30   6:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA2 (#14)

In my hometown (Paterson, NJ) a new synagogue was built in the 1950's, and I remember the cornerstone reading "A.D. 1955. CE and BCE was not used by Jews at that time.

Ada  posted on  2011-09-30   9:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#15)

That is ironic. Jews using BC and AD.

They have their own calendar based on what they believe was the date of creation. www.jewfaq.org/calendar.htm

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-09-30   9:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA2 (#16)

That is ironic. Jews using BC and AD.

They have their own calendar based on what they believe was the date of creation. www.jewfaq.org/calendar.htm

This was a Reform temple which might explain their not using the Jewish calendar dating. However, if they had heard of CE and BCE, most likely they would have used it. My point was that in the 1950s, most people were unaware of the terms.

Ada  posted on  2011-10-02   10:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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