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Title: Proof that christians are morally compromised.
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Published: Oct 5, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-10-05 09:03:04 by PSUSA2
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Views: 3910
Comments: 180


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Take off the glasses. Or leave them on. Your choice. But you do have a choice.

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#1. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

Also, why would anyone worship a deity
that they are supposed to fear?
I do not fear the Lord.

wakeup  posted on  2011-10-05   10:30:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: wakeup (#1)

Also, why would anyone worship a deity that they are supposed to fear?

It's all built on fear. Fear of "god", fear of the king, fear of the prophets/priests, fear of "hell", fear of the future, etc

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-05   12:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA2 (#2)

It's all built on fear

all?

God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of sound mind. Timothy, i,7

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-05   18:24:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#19)

God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of sound mind.

Is that what you see? I sure don't see it.

Perhaps the catholic torturers comforted themselves with that very scripture as they stretched people on the rack.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-05   18:35:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PSUSA2 (#26)

Is that what you see? I sure don't see it.

How could you miss it? I think that you expected others to find what only you can find for yourself. Now you are disappointed that "they" led you astray, as if you are some "victim" of religion.

Personally, you could toss out all of the NT save the Sermon on the Mount and, if you followed it, you would be the LIGHT of the world......few opt to go that route though. Most are looking for somebody else to tell them how to get to the kingdom.

You should simply accept that Christianity was made political long ago, but that doesn't alter the initial intent of Jesus Christ and His teachings.....go read the Sermon on the Mount again and you will "see" it more clearly.

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-05   18:45:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: abraxas (#33)

I think that you expected others to find what only you can find for yourself. Now you are disappointed that "they" led you astray, as if you are some "victim" of religion.

Nope.

Personally, you could toss out all of the NT save the Sermon on the Mount and, if you followed it, you would be the LIGHT of the world......few opt to go that route though. Most are looking for somebody else to tell them how to get to the kingdom.

I've heard of cafeteria christians before, but that takes the cake.

And no one needs a fictional 'sermon on the mount' from a fictional 'jesus' to be able to live peacefully with others. One could just as easily obey the 42 Laws of Maat. Or any other set of moral/ethical principles. Or one could just be more self-centered and realize it is just better to be at peace than at war.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-05   22:06:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: PSUSA2 (#105)

And no one needs

Compassion? The Sermon on the Mount is about compassion and, personally, I do think that this world could use more of it. Frankly, I don't know of any Christians who follow the Sermon on the Mount. One Christian told me that it was meant for angels, others tell me they can't be "perfect" like that because they are sinners......but I do know Buddhists who practice the teaching and they sure do shine, which reveals the truth in the teaching about being the light.

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-05   22:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: abraxas (#109)

Compassion? The Sermon on the Mount is about compassion and, personally, I do think that this world could use more of it.

There's nothing wrong with compassion.

The problem is, it is spread so thin among those that do not deserve compassion that the term has become meaningless.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-06   8:43:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: PSUSA2 (#114)

The problem is, it is spread so thin among those that do not deserve compassion that the term has become meaningless.

Compassion is beyond the age of blame. It is the love of ONE for ALL with no exceptions. So there is none who "do not deserve" compassion as this is a judgment on others from a limited perspective within a linear time stream. Compassion can only arise when love supersedes the need to judge and where forgiveness is a state of being and not an occasional act granted on a whim.

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-06   13:58:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: abraxas (#125)

It is the love of ONE for ALL with no exceptions.

That sounds good, in theory.

IMO this "love for all" also dilutes love to the point of meaninglessness. No one is this one-dimensional. Even the jew 'god' does not make such a claim in scriptures where it is quoted verbatim somehow. bible.cc/isaiah/45-7.htm

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-06   14:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: PSUSA2 (#126)

IMO this "love for all" also dilutes love to the point of meaninglessness.

No one is this one-dimensional.

It is not an easy task for humans, but this type of love is an acknowledgement of yourself in all others and all others in yourself. It is the path beyond blame that persists through out humanity with few positives and a lot of negatives. Leveling the playing field to this extent leaves no room for the ego to thrive, but humility and modesty and love fill that void.

This type of love increases one's sense of responsibility for the self and for others, so it is extremely meaningful, IMHO. Humans find this difficult because most value the mask of personality and ego above the soul. When people believe that the mask is WHO they are, it is frightening to imagine otherwise which leaves few to tread this path.

One-dimentional? I see it as the opposite, multi-dimentional to the extent of ten billion human souls, which makes it difficult to fathom. : )

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-06   14:43:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: abraxas (#127)

this type of love is an acknowledgement of yourself in all others and all others in yourself. It is the path beyond blame that persists through out humanity with few positives and a lot of negatives. Leveling the playing field to this extent leaves no room for the ego to thrive, but humility and modesty and love fill that void.

omg I just want to breed with you.

Is that wrong?

;)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-10-06   22:31:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: wudidiz, abraxas (#131)

omg I just want to breed with you.

wud, you silver-tongued romantic devil you! I don't know how any woman could resist smooth talk like that!

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-10-07   8:32:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#151. To: James Deffenbach, wudidiz (#143)

wud, you silver-tongued romantic devil you! I don't know how any woman could resist smooth talk like that!

We can't......no will power.....magnetism too strong.....reduced to swooning. : )

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-07 12:53:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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