if israel or their neocon buddies start a nuke war, and nobody gets raptured, that oughta go a long way in helping some of the radical christians break out...
I disagree, and here's why.
Facts mean nothing to religiously deluded. I'm not being mean by saying that, because I know that facts meant nothing to me.
Things get glossed over when reading about the nutty jew god. Things get noticed, but it still takes a long time for this nuttiness to sink in, in my experience. The programming remains in control. One has to fight their own way out of it.
Some of the very same things that I/we rip others for, I have said in the past, and I meant it when I said it. For example: support of israel. It was done out of ignorance, but it was still done.
Your explanation is way too long for this mental midget.
May I suggest that you either use brief, familiar quotes that are so often repeated that "the stoopids" believe them to be true, or, ignore the nasty drunken idiot before he savages you for daring to use irrefutable logic to disagree with him.
Okay, in the ENTIRE New Testament, Hell is mentioned only nine times.
You obviously feel that, for some reason, the NINE times mentioned in the NT are somehow "special" and "different" from other faiths. So, you tell me what is so special about the nine times Hell is mentioned in Christianity........
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Well, I'll stand up for you if it will keep you from being fed to the lions.
Well, thank you for that too. I hope and pray that God will give me sufficient courage to never deny Christ no matter what someone may do to me. This life is temporary and whatever pain and suffering accompanies it is also temporary for Christians.
Whereas ye know not what [shall be] on the morrow. For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. ~ James 4:14
“Space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away in mere shadows.” ~ Hermann Minkowski
“I want to know God’s thoughts … the rest are details.” ~ Albert Einstein
Infinity (definition): limitless or endless space, extent or size; impossible to measure or calculate: the infinite mercy of God. [synonyms: vast, forever] ~ The Oxford American Dictionary
“Modern mathematics has given us the concept of infinity. The sum of any number multiplied by infinity is zero. Therefore, our lifetimes, whether 17, 70 or 700 years, when multiplied by infinity, are nothing compared to the infinite lifetime of God.” ~ John Bevere
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
How could you miss it? I think that you expected others to find what only you can find for yourself. Now you are disappointed that "they" led you astray, as if you are some "victim" of religion.
Personally, you could toss out all of the NT save the Sermon on the Mount and, if you followed it, you would be the LIGHT of the world......few opt to go that route though. Most are looking for somebody else to tell them how to get to the kingdom.
You should simply accept that Christianity was made political long ago, but that doesn't alter the initial intent of Jesus Christ and His teachings.....go read the Sermon on the Mount again and you will "see" it more clearly.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
christianity uses the "hell" concept to terrorize people into becoming christians.
my bible school teachers
HUMANS do that lead and lag.......don't confuse what others "use" as any indication of a "correct" interpretation.
My Sunday School teacher did the same, but I don't feel jaded....as a kid I was pious for cookies. : )
You are an adult now......fully capable of finding that kingdom within and forging a deeper sense of understanding than you had as a child. What good does packing around your sense of "victimhood" over Sunday school as a child do you?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
well, peace as in forgiveness rather than vengeance
Forgiveness for what? Being human? Not being perfect?
"god" might as well have said "Because you cannot jump over the moon, you are a sinner and deserve to spend eternity in HELL, but I will help you if I feel like it!"
It is the old problem/reaction/solution that we see all the time. The kikes invent a "perfect" god and make men less-than-perfect sinners, this provokes a fear reaction (after all, who wants to be roasted on a spit for all eternity), so a solution (jesus) is provided (if you obey)
The insane "god's" standards need to be called into question. (That is, if anyone believes this 'god' exists in the first place).
Fuck that. But I have to say, it's damned effective when it comes to controlling peoples minds. That is what the OP video shows
I didn't set out to leave christianity. I just tried for years to understand it. It only makes sense if one listens to a preacher that they agree with. If they dont agree with that preacher, they will find someone that they can agree with. But to use the bible to try and understand it? Good Fucking Luck with that.
All religions teach that to some extent or another. The beauty of it is that IF you can't control your mind you are a slave to it and hence you create your own hell.
"Fear NOT, ye of little faith." You have now traded your fear of hell for fear of "Christian terrorists" so I'd say you are no better off for it.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
you've admitted you've willingly crippled your mind, but you havent explained why rational people should pay attention to you.
Oh, do tell, how have I "crippled" my mind?
You haven't provided any indication of rationality yet. A "rational" person would accept that nobody has asked you to pay attention and a "rational" person would ask themselves why they continue to do so. Why do you need any explanations from me in regards to where you place your attention?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
hurry, get under the bed "Christian terrorists" are lurking.
LOL! Dey beze bad!!!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
you agree that all religions require you to cripple your mind.
you seem to be a christian.
what are we supposed to think of your pretenses at rationality?
My point of agreement comes from a greater depth of reading and attempting to understand MULTIPLE faiths and with no judgment as you place on it. What you deem to "cripple" any person's mind is actually your own inability to understand and your feeling of having been "led astray" in your quest for understanding. Simply because you feel crippled by your limited understanding, doesn't mean that the rest of us feel this way.
You think this because your understanding is limited to that which is Christian. Hence, you can only grasp a concept from this limited perspective, but you are in error in attempting to limit mine.
What are you/we to think? I am not here to tell you what to think......that is your job. A rational person thinks for themselves.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
free will is not based on fear, it is inherent in us as humans. In other words, no one is forcing us to do anything. True faith is not based on fear of hell, but in love. As an aside, surely the concept of punishment of evil makes sense to you. It must.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
are you a freemason? You sound like jefferson who on his deathbed fretted over "breaking the chains of monkish superstition". To him, the moral law of God was impeding his idea of 'liberty'.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
What dogma would this be? You seem to be "crippled" from your experiences because you went to others to think for you and now you feel that you are a "victim" from what they "taught" you about religion. I don't suffer this affliction.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
A mind can only be crippled if it thinks it can be crippled. Not only do you see or think yourself as having been crippled, but now you see crippled minds EVERYWHERE...even where they do not exist. You suffer weak thinking, but I don't have this affliction. : )
Change your thoughts lead.and.lag......and change your world. Your world is crippled. Mine is strong, vibrant and healthy. Are you going to answer my question about reality? How about dogma? Your diversion is duly noted.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
women are supposed to be illogical, flighty, inconsistent thinkers... why are you confirming the stereotype?
why are the male believers conforming to the female stereotype?
You are comical......a victim of religion who sees the world in shades of blame offering his weak and fragile commentary on genders.
Do you ever answer any questions for yourself or do you just keep spewing them ad nauseum in an attempt to divert from your own intellectual inadequacies?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
This is actuallly a funny thread. The references to being 'mistreated' in Sunday school reminds me of those books by Bradshaw all about 'the inner child' & the hell on earth many shackle themselves with from memories years past. Eegads.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
I agree with you that fear, particularly fear of demons & hell, is no way to introduce children to Christianity. That is a very wrong tact & is not what Jesus did. I am sorry if that is what you experienced.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
Christianity certainly shouldnt terrorize anyone.One can believe that hell exists without exploiting it to scare kids to death. If i can ask, what religion were you raised in? That may help me to understand your position better.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
christianity is based more on terrrorism than love, and you just cant get around that fact.
No they did not. As I stated before, you find the word hell NINE times in the NT. Love is mentioned twice as much. lol
You can find hell many more times in the Koran.....the Vedas.......the Devaduta Sutta is page after page of hell, hell, hell. Jainism describes seven levels of hell. How can you continue to do comparative religious discourse without having any knowledge of hell beyond what you found in Christianity?
There is no more exploitation in Christianity than in any other religion. You will have to go Taoism to avoid the concept completely.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne