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Title: Proof that christians are morally compromised.
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Published: Oct 5, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-10-05 09:03:04 by PSUSA2
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#1. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
Also, why would anyone worship a deity
It's all built on fear. Fear of "god", fear of the king, fear of the prophets/priests, fear of "hell", fear of the future, etc
all? God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of sound mind. Timothy, i,7
Is that what you see? I sure don't see it. Perhaps the catholic torturers comforted themselves with that very scripture as they stretched people on the rack.
How could you miss it? I think that you expected others to find what only you can find for yourself. Now you are disappointed that "they" led you astray, as if you are some "victim" of religion. Personally, you could toss out all of the NT save the Sermon on the Mount and, if you followed it, you would be the LIGHT of the world......few opt to go that route though. Most are looking for somebody else to tell them how to get to the kingdom. You should simply accept that Christianity was made political long ago, but that doesn't alter the initial intent of Jesus Christ and His teachings.....go read the Sermon on the Mount again and you will "see" it more clearly.
...that you have to cripple your mind and submit to christian terrorists if you're gonna avoid hell.
All religions teach that to some extent or another. The beauty of it is that IF you can't control your mind you are a slave to it and hence you create your own hell. "Fear NOT, ye of little faith." You have now traded your fear of hell for fear of "Christian terrorists" so I'd say you are no better off for it.
All religions teach that to some extent or another so, if you're a compulsive joiner, you're willing to cripple your mind to become one of the pack. there are certain circumstances, commonly known as "reality", that will, sooner or loater, discipline your mind.
"reality", that will, sooner or loater, discipline your mind. Stop projecting......you are the "compulsive joiner" not I. lol No, sooner or loater (lol) it will not......do tell, what is "reality" that you speak of?
you've admitted you've willingly crippled your mind, but you havent explained why rational people should pay attention to you. why is that?
Oh, do tell, how have I "crippled" my mind? You haven't provided any indication of rationality yet. A "rational" person would accept that nobody has asked you to pay attention and a "rational" person would ask themselves why they continue to do so. Why do you need any explanations from me in regards to where you place your attention?
All religions teach that to some extent or another you agree that all religions require you to cripple your mind. you seem to be a christian. what are we supposed to think of your pretenses at rationality?
you seem to be a christian. what are we supposed to think of your pretenses at rationality? My point of agreement comes from a greater depth of reading and attempting to understand MULTIPLE faiths and with no judgment as you place on it. What you deem to "cripple" any person's mind is actually your own inability to understand and your feeling of having been "led astray" in your quest for understanding. Simply because you feel crippled by your limited understanding, doesn't mean that the rest of us feel this way. You think this because your understanding is limited to that which is Christian. Hence, you can only grasp a concept from this limited perspective, but you are in error in attempting to limit mine. What are you/we to think? I am not here to tell you what to think......that is your job. A rational person thinks for themselves.
if a rational person thinks for themselves, why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
What dogma would this be? You seem to be "crippled" from your experiences because you went to others to think for you and now you feel that you are a "victim" from what they "taught" you about religion. I don't suffer this affliction.
you apparently are swallowing christian dogma that you admit is crippling your mind. is this some kind of womanly logic we're witnessing, here? women are supposed to be illogical, flighty, inconsistent thinkers... why are you confirming the stereotype? why are the male believers conforming to the female stereotype?
Apparently, your reading comprehension has been crippled too. lol
why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
A mind can only be crippled if it thinks it can be crippled. Not only do you see or think yourself as having been crippled, but now you see crippled minds EVERYWHERE...even where they do not exist. You suffer weak thinking, but I don't have this affliction. : ) Change your thoughts lead.and.lag......and change your world. Your world is crippled. Mine is strong, vibrant and healthy. Are you going to answer my question about reality? How about dogma? Your diversion is duly noted.
This is actuallly a funny thread. The references to being 'mistreated' in Sunday school reminds me of those books by Bradshaw all about 'the inner child' & the hell on earth many shackle themselves with from memories years past. Eegads.
you got to admit that only a religion of love would terrorize children with visions of hell, in order to recruit believers.
I agree with you that fear, particularly fear of demons & hell, is no way to introduce children to Christianity. That is a very wrong tact & is not what Jesus did. I am sorry if that is what you experienced.
the concept of hell is universal... and christians exploit that. christianity is based more on terrrorism than love, and you just cant get around that fact. the concept of hell is based on the fact that normal people have a conscience. the people running the world now, including the religious poohbahs, have no conscience.
Christianity certainly shouldnt terrorize anyone.One can believe that hell exists without exploiting it to scare kids to death. If i can ask, what religion were you raised in? That may help me to understand your position better.
my mother sent me to church and bible school... my dad was an atheist. the easter egg hunts were fun, and there was a point, as a child, that i loved jesus... who wouldnt? the fact remains: christianity is a terrorist organization.
The reason I asked what religion you were was to determine who exactly taught you that way.If it were a protestant, where did he get his 'credentials', etc. Probably minimal, which is why there are not really 1000's of Christian sects.Only one true church
logic and facts
If one believes Jesus is the Son of God & came to establish His church, it would not make sense to have 1000s of sects disagreeing on everything.Thats not logical. Jesus established one Universal Catholic church. Luther went astray.
how do you know that? is that what the Catholic church teaches? is that biblical? i'm asking respectfully. ;)
by asking 'is that biblical' presumes "Sola Scripture" (google it) which means that the Bible alone is the source of truth. (a protestant view). Since the Catholic church was established before the Bible & the Church gave us the Bible, (a point conceded e
#83. To: Artisan (#79)
Then why did the church omit the Apocalypses of Peter in lieu of John's Revelations? It was a close match and early Christians really liked the Apocalypses of Peter. No gospels from the rock doesn't make a lot of sense, especially when Peter is deemed as more important than John in Apostle position for the Catholic Church.
Jesus also told Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan." Is Jesus schizoid, or was he referring to the rock which is the TRUTH that Jesus is the Son of God, and upon THAT rock He would build His church. BTW, by 1953, at least 20 popes were Jewish...[all traced to Peter?] See also Babylon the Great, Catholic or Jewish? at watch.pair.com ======================= "... "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." -Isaiah 42:8 .... "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:" -Exodus 20:4..... "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them..." -Exodus 20:5 .......... ...... Satanism in the Catholic religion! Notice the upside down cross! "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." —Mark 7:7 "For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect." —Mark 13:22 [excerpts from Bowing to Mary is a sin at jesus-is-savior.com ] =============== see also Pope Affirms [Satanic] Noahide Law at realzionistnews.com
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that they are supposed to fear?
I do not fear the Lord.
#2. To: wakeup (#1)
Also, why would anyone worship a deity that they are supposed to fear?
#19. To: PSUSA2 (#2)
It's all built on fear
#26. To: abraxas (#19)
God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of sound mind.
#33. To: PSUSA2 (#26)
Is that what you see? I sure don't see it.
#36. To: abraxas (#33)
You should simply accept ...
#38. To: lead.and.lag (#36)
...that you have to cripple your mind
#39. To: abraxas (#38)
(Edited)
you have to cripple your mind
#41. To: lead.and.lag (#39)
so, if you're a compulsive joiner
#42. To: abraxas (#41)
#43. To: lead.and.lag (#42)
you've admitted you've willingly crippled your mind, but you havent explained why rational people should pay attention to you.
#45. To: abraxas (#43)
(Edited)
...you have to cripple your mind
#46. To: lead.and.lag (#45)
you agree that all religions require you to cripple your mind.
#47. To: abraxas (#46)
A rational person thinks for themselves.
#51. To: lead.and.lag (#47)
why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
#52. To: abraxas (#51)
(Edited)
#53. To: lead.and.lag (#52)
you apparently are swallowing christian dogma that you admit is crippling your mind.
#54. To: abraxas (#53)
#55. To: lead.and.lag (#54)
why are you swallowing dogma that cripples your mind?
#61. To: abraxas (#55)
crippled mind, crippled mind, crippled mind, crippled mind.
#63. To: Artisan (#61)
(Edited)
Sunday school victims
#64. To: lead.and.lag (#63)
#65. To: Artisan (#64)
(Edited)
#66. To: lead.and.lag (#65)
#68. To: Artisan (#66)
what religion were you raised in?
#70. To: lead.and.lag (#68)
#72. To: Artisan (#70)
Only one true church
#74. To: lead.and.lag (#72)
#77. To: Artisan (#74)
Jesus established one Universal Catholic church.
#79. To: christine (#77)
(contd) conceded even by early writings of protestant leaders). Luther may have had some legit beefs, but the when Jesus told Peter he is the rock upon which I will build my church, the 1st Papacy was established.EVERY priest can be traced directly to him
Replies to Comment # 79. Jesus told Peter he is the rock upon which I will build my church,
#144. To: Artisan (#79)
(contd) conceded even by early writings of protestant leaders). Luther may have had some legit beefs, but the when Jesus told Peter he is the rock upon which I will build my church, the 1st Papacy was established.EVERY priest can be traced directly to him
#147. To: Artisan, christine (#79)
#148. To: Artisan, christine (#79)
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