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Published: Oct 10, 2011
Author: itistoolate
Post Date: 2011-10-10 11:21:10 by Itistoolate
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#18. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

i got to admit it's pretty comical that nobody wants to face the facts of peak oil.

too bad that, once you accept the fact of peak oil, you can make sense of everything.

on the other hand, given jesus' capabilities (fishes and loaves, water into wine, etc), maybe we shouldnt have bothered with all this PNAC horseshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So-called "Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

We have no shortage of oil.

We do have a shortage of honesty on energy production - with suppressed technology, capped oil fields, etc., ...

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:25:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

A. Advertising. Got to make the dog and pony show look real. The major oil companies are NOT in the OIL business they are in the Oil SHORTAGE business. Restricted production = higher prices and profit margins.

B. Who said they have to drill fields that are refilling? Although they ARE refilling. Are there even more dead dinosaurs than we thought?

But that's all right sssssitisen. Go back to sleep. Fuuuball is on tonight. Don' wanna miss fuuuuball do you? And don't forget Unca' wants you to get your "B vitamins" by drinking plenty of Spud.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:01:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

there are lots of reasons to deny peak oil.

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

you'd prefer to pile conspiracy on top of conspiracy, while i think that the PNAC conspiracy, documented, is quite enough.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:11:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?

oh, for sure

FormerLurker, another confirmed loon

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:14:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So Einstein, do you care to explain how dinosaurs can turn into petroleum, and in such huge quantities that it can power mankind for close to a century so far in terms of transportation, clothing, plastics, and a wide array of chemicals, and longer than that in terms of heating and lighting?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anygody that trots out the dinosaur argueemnt is a cretin.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:22:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anygody that trots out the dinosaur arguemnt is a cretin.

Try spell check next time.

Anyways, where do YOU think petroleum comes from then, eh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the critical question remains: why are you defending israel by denying its motive to stage 9/11?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:28:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Neither Israel nor the NWO care about peak oil. They care about money, power, and the ability to control governments.

Sale of petroluem is a means, not a raison etre.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.

what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:46:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.

The ability to control government and the world in general hings on the ability to control ENERGY, its production, and use. Oil is just the most "rewarding" form of energy for those who own and control the oil fields and refineries.

what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?

What is YOUR motive in trying to sell the idea of peak oil? And again I ask you, how do YOU think oil came to be in the first place?

Production can easily be artificially capped in order to raise profits. And you haven't shown how that is not the case.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

why does israel need protection from tthe idea of peak oil?

could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

Nope, there were MANY other reasons for 9/11. Look up PNAC for ONE such piece of information as to ONE of the reasons WHY it happened.

Look up the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, for more pieces of the puzzle.

And oh yeah, don't forget about all those who profit from the Iraq and Afghan wars.

Finally, look up the 2.2 TRILLION DOLLARS that sort of "went missing" as reported by Donald Rumsfeld on 9/10/2001.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:02:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it's motive, means, and opportunity, isnt it?

the PNAC people demonstrated motive when the said they needed a new pearl harbor.

netanyahu demonstrated motive when he said the 9/11 attacks were "very good".

neocon cheney said that oil supply would fail to keep up with demand.

plaease explain why you are defending israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:09:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And BTW, your premise that Israel carried out the 9/11 attacks due to "peak oil" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In terms of the Israeli government, their motive would have been to expand Israel's borders and "get rid" of Saddam Hussein as a bonus. That, and they have a LOT more free weapons and billions of dollars from the US taxpayer as a result of any "war against Islam", which is what this "war on terror" is really about.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:24:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

israel must be secured, by grabbing the high ground in the west bank and subduing its neighbors, before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

makes all the sense in the world.

the only people that say they cant see the sense of it are protectors of israel.

why are you pprotecting israel?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

That doesn't make any sense. We do not protect them by oil, we give them weapons and large amounts of money each year. They have nuclear weapons remember, so they don't even really NEED our protection.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

how far are you prepared to continue this?

because the logic becomes more apparent with every post we make: you are protecting israel by denying peak oil, and i am demonstrating you're a limiited hangout protector of israel.

then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's obvious that you have no argument, just accusations and ad hominems. You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern, and can't even tell me where you think oil comes from in the first place.

I've even given reasons WHY Israel might be involved with the attacks, yet you repeat the same mantra like a broken record, "why are you protecting israel by denying peak oil", even though there is no evidence whatsoever that peak oil is even taking place, or that it would somehow benefit Israel or cause it to attack America.

So when all else fails, refuse to give any rational answer (or nor answer at all) to very straightforward and legitimate questions, then call people names.

Yeah, you're a real piece of work.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern,

please post crude oil and lease condensate production since 9/11. please post the logic behind exxon signing on with the PNAC neocons, and exxon's subsequent record profits.

please explain why, the more you post, the more you seem to be a limited hangout defender of israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:45:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oil companies profit when they hold back production and raise prices.

Now for the last time, before I bozo you, answer MY questions for YOU.

WHERE do YOU think oil comes from in the first place?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:47:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

So are you a mind reader? Do you know what they know? Where is it that THEY think it comes from, since you're so gifted?

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

Jillions, eh? How many zeroes is that? Are you trying to state that the Middle East used to be a giant sea? And did you know that most sea creatures are eaten by larger creatures, and are NOT "crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked"?

Did you know that methane is an abundant organic chemical, and can be converted to petroleum? That natural processes deep within the earth can actually perform that conversion naturally?

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

Too bad your pet theory forces you to ignore science, and even to misspell the word geological. Or perhaps that's just you doing what you do naturally.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oil companies spend billions of dollar looking for oil.

they've developed methods that work... and those methods are based on the fact aht oil is made over millions of years from small animals and plants.

meahwhile, you cant explain why you're defending israel.

why is that?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:05:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That you chant the mantra that I defend Israel doesn't make it so. People who've read my posts over the years know that I am far from a "Israel defender", I speak out against their atrocities and misdeeds, unlike you.

They also know I am keen on scientific evidence and facts, also unlike you.

That oil companies constantly seek out oil fields doesn't mean it comes from ancient plants and organisms, it means they're looking for more outlets from within the Earth that dispense oil, in order to have even MORE of that which they can make TRILLIONS of dollars on over the years.

So now, have you even looked into the science concerning methane and oil?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:09:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i mean, you'd think you people would have a certain amount of pride.

but then, maybe there's no money in pride.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:17:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i mean, you'd think you people would have a certain amount of pride.

but then, maybe there's no money in pride.

So now you are admitting that you have no shame and that you are doing this for a paycheck?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anyhow, you're a confirmed loony tune, everybody knows it, and the denial, by the logic of the situation, says you're defending israel.

not to mention your attempts to fuck over people's minds with your chemtrail/UFO/crop circle bullshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:23:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

smoking them out

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

smoking them out

You've smoked yourself out bud.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:26:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the problem is this: the only thing you got working for you is bullshit artists like alex jones.

meanwhile, in the real world, oil companies are using proven methods to find oil.

there is no evidence that abiotic oil has been produced in commercial quantities.... in fact, there's no evidence of its existence outside laboratories.

meanwhile, you seem to be a sucker for every dismal goddamned fairytale that's come down the pike... chemtrials, UFOs, lord knows what.

alex jones, art bell and that noory asshole are proud of you... you've helped fuck up millions of american minds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:31:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the problem is this: the only thing you got working for you is bullshit artists like alex jones.

Attack by association, whether or not I even associate or listen to said person.

meanwhile, in the real world, oil companies are using proven methods to find oil.

Control of ALL of the planet's energy sources is the goal.

there is no evidence that abiotic oil has been produced in commercial quantities.... in fact, there's no evidence of its existence outside laboratories.

There is ZERO evidence that petroleum can be created from sea sediment or plant life. There is MUCH evidence that it is a product of methane.

Years ago, they also thought the world was flat, and that the sun was a ball of fire which spun around the Earth. They had no understanding of nuclear fusion, and even now, the dynamics of solar burning is for the most part unknown.

meanwhile, you seem to be a sucker for every dismal goddamned fairytale that's come down the pike... chemtrials, UFOs, lord knows what.

I look into suppressed information, and whatever evidence I find that contradicts "conventional wisdom", I present to people who may wish to look into it themselves.

What YOU do on the other hand is attack people who have more courage than yourself, where you would be afraid to even touch such ideas, unless you were there to ridicule and scorn those who try to do what you would never have the courage to do yourself.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:41:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:44:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

Ever hear of the Middle East?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:47:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:49:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

Refer to post 99 for the answer.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:50:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

middle east oil does not come from sedimentary rock?

want to give us proof of that?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:52:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And oh yeah, maybe you've read something I haven't, but what makes you think the entire Middle East was once an ancient sea?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:57:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

you're not ignorant

nope, you've got an agenda... first, protect israel

to accomplish that, you have to degrade americans' ability to think

it's a matter of sequence, isnt it?

fuck up americans' minds so they wont be able to see what caused 9/11.

duck soup.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:01:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If anyone has an agenda here, it's obvious that YOU do. I was at first trying to have a rational discussion concerning your erroneous idea that there is such a thing as "peak oil" to begin with, but YOU turned this into a "joo" thing.

It's obvious to me at least that you more than likely work for some government agency who is here to entrap people, or perhaps even for a foreign power such as Israel. It would be the perfect disguise for a Mossad operator to act like a "jew hater" and bash anyone who disproves his bullshit with accusations of being a "jew lover".

Yep, you are DEFINITELY a shill, it's just the matter of figuring out who exactly pays your salary.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:06:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#113. To: FormerLurker (#112)

if there's no such thing as peak oil, how come texas oil production peaked in 1972?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11 00:08:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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