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Published: Oct 10, 2011
Author: itistoolate
Post Date: 2011-10-10 11:21:10 by Itistoolate
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#18. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

i got to admit it's pretty comical that nobody wants to face the facts of peak oil.

too bad that, once you accept the fact of peak oil, you can make sense of everything.

on the other hand, given jesus' capabilities (fishes and loaves, water into wine, etc), maybe we shouldnt have bothered with all this PNAC horseshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So-called "Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

We have no shortage of oil.

We do have a shortage of honesty on energy production - with suppressed technology, capped oil fields, etc., ...

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:25:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

A. Advertising. Got to make the dog and pony show look real. The major oil companies are NOT in the OIL business they are in the Oil SHORTAGE business. Restricted production = higher prices and profit margins.

B. Who said they have to drill fields that are refilling? Although they ARE refilling. Are there even more dead dinosaurs than we thought?

But that's all right sssssitisen. Go back to sleep. Fuuuball is on tonight. Don' wanna miss fuuuuball do you? And don't forget Unca' wants you to get your "B vitamins" by drinking plenty of Spud.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:01:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

there are lots of reasons to deny peak oil.

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

you'd prefer to pile conspiracy on top of conspiracy, while i think that the PNAC conspiracy, documented, is quite enough.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:11:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?

oh, for sure

FormerLurker, another confirmed loon

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:14:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So Einstein, do you care to explain how dinosaurs can turn into petroleum, and in such huge quantities that it can power mankind for close to a century so far in terms of transportation, clothing, plastics, and a wide array of chemicals, and longer than that in terms of heating and lighting?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anygody that trots out the dinosaur argueemnt is a cretin.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:22:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anygody that trots out the dinosaur arguemnt is a cretin.

Try spell check next time.

Anyways, where do YOU think petroleum comes from then, eh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the critical question remains: why are you defending israel by denying its motive to stage 9/11?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:28:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Neither Israel nor the NWO care about peak oil. They care about money, power, and the ability to control governments.

Sale of petroluem is a means, not a raison etre.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.

what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:46:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the ability to control government hinges on the ability to control oil.

The ability to control government and the world in general hings on the ability to control ENERGY, its production, and use. Oil is just the most "rewarding" form of energy for those who own and control the oil fields and refineries.

what is your motive in denying that oil production has flatlined for the last five or six years?

What is YOUR motive in trying to sell the idea of peak oil? And again I ask you, how do YOU think oil came to be in the first place?

Production can easily be artificially capped in order to raise profits. And you haven't shown how that is not the case.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

why does israel need protection from tthe idea of peak oil?

could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

could peak oil have been israel's motive for staging the 9/11 attacks?

Nope, there were MANY other reasons for 9/11. Look up PNAC for ONE such piece of information as to ONE of the reasons WHY it happened.

Look up the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, for more pieces of the puzzle.

And oh yeah, don't forget about all those who profit from the Iraq and Afghan wars.

Finally, look up the 2.2 TRILLION DOLLARS that sort of "went missing" as reported by Donald Rumsfeld on 9/10/2001.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:02:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it's motive, means, and opportunity, isnt it?

the PNAC people demonstrated motive when the said they needed a new pearl harbor.

netanyahu demonstrated motive when he said the 9/11 attacks were "very good".

neocon cheney said that oil supply would fail to keep up with demand.

plaease explain why you are defending israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:09:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And BTW, your premise that Israel carried out the 9/11 attacks due to "peak oil" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In terms of the Israeli government, their motive would have been to expand Israel's borders and "get rid" of Saddam Hussein as a bonus. That, and they have a LOT more free weapons and billions of dollars from the US taxpayer as a result of any "war against Islam", which is what this "war on terror" is really about.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:24:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

israel must be secured, by grabbing the high ground in the west bank and subduing its neighbors, before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

makes all the sense in the world.

the only people that say they cant see the sense of it are protectors of israel.

why are you pprotecting israel?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

That doesn't make any sense. We do not protect them by oil, we give them weapons and large amounts of money each year. They have nuclear weapons remember, so they don't even really NEED our protection.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

how far are you prepared to continue this?

because the logic becomes more apparent with every post we make: you are protecting israel by denying peak oil, and i am demonstrating you're a limiited hangout protector of israel.

then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's obvious that you have no argument, just accusations and ad hominems. You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern, and can't even tell me where you think oil comes from in the first place.

I've even given reasons WHY Israel might be involved with the attacks, yet you repeat the same mantra like a broken record, "why are you protecting israel by denying peak oil", even though there is no evidence whatsoever that peak oil is even taking place, or that it would somehow benefit Israel or cause it to attack America.

So when all else fails, refuse to give any rational answer (or nor answer at all) to very straightforward and legitimate questions, then call people names.

Yeah, you're a real piece of work.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern,

please post crude oil and lease condensate production since 9/11. please post the logic behind exxon signing on with the PNAC neocons, and exxon's subsequent record profits.

please explain why, the more you post, the more you seem to be a limited hangout defender of israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:45:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oil companies profit when they hold back production and raise prices.

Now for the last time, before I bozo you, answer MY questions for YOU.

WHERE do YOU think oil comes from in the first place?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:47:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

So are you a mind reader? Do you know what they know? Where is it that THEY think it comes from, since you're so gifted?

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

Jillions, eh? How many zeroes is that? Are you trying to state that the Middle East used to be a giant sea? And did you know that most sea creatures are eaten by larger creatures, and are NOT "crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked"?

Did you know that methane is an abundant organic chemical, and can be converted to petroleum? That natural processes deep within the earth can actually perform that conversion naturally?

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

Too bad your pet theory forces you to ignore science, and even to misspell the word geological. Or perhaps that's just you doing what you do naturally.

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oil companies spend billions of dollar looking for oil.

they've developed methods that work... and those methods are based on the fact aht oil is made over millions of years from small animals and plants.

meahwhile, you cant explain why you're defending israel.

why is that?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:05:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That you chant the mantra that I defend Israel doesn't make it so. People who've read my posts over the years know that I am far from a "Israel defender", I speak out against their atrocities and misdeeds, unlike you.

They also know I am keen on scientific evidence and facts, also unlike you.

That oil companies constantly seek out oil fields doesn't mean it comes from ancient plants and organisms, it means they're looking for more outlets from within the Earth that dispense oil, in order to have even MORE of that which they can make TRILLIONS of dollars on over the years.

So now, have you even looked into the science concerning methane and oil?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:09:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.

"First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.

"If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.

"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.

"But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

"I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."

people are gonna start wondering why you're confirming hitler's description of jewish debate tactics.;

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:14:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#80. To: lead.and.lag (#78)

"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.

MeinKampf

So using Hitler's writings to attack me now, eh?

What's next, a full blown KKK cross burning?

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10 23:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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