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Title: Report Links Kidney Stones and Gallstones
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/751578
Published: Oct 18, 2011
Author: Genevra Pittman
Post Date: 2011-10-18 06:54:12 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 187
Comments: 17

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Oct 14 - Once patients have had kidney stones they seem to have a heightened risk of gallstones -- and vice versa, according to a new study.

Even after adjustment for weight, diabetes status and diet, the link remained.

The report "raises our antenna to this shared relationship between these two disorders," said Dr. Brian Matlaga, a urologist at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore.

"From an anecdotal standpoint, certainly it's not an uncommon scenario that a patient would have had both," Dr. Matlaga, who wasn't involved in the new research, told Reuters Health.

But he described himself as "a little bit at a loss trying to define what that relationship would be," since kidney stones are usually formed of calcium and gallstones of cholesterol.

Data for the current analysis came from three different long-term health studies of more than 240,000 nurses and doctors who were followed for between 14 and 24 years.

Over that time, about 5,100 people had new-onset kidney stones and close to 18,500 had new cases of gallstones.

On multivariate analysis, depending on the population -- male or female, older or younger -- people with a history of gallstones were between 26% and 32% more likely to get a kidney stone than people who hadn't ever had gallstones.

The link also went in the opposite direction. A history of kidney stones meant study participants were 17% to 51% more likely to report a new gallstone.

The researchers, led by Eric Taylor from the Maine Medical Center in Portland, said it's possible that a shift in gut flora might somehow predispose people to both kidney stones and gallstones. But, Dr. Taylor told Reuters Health, "the fairest thing is that we just don't know" why the two would be linked.

In their report September 23rd in the Journal of Urology the researchers echoed Dr. Matlaga's call for more detailed research into any explanations for a common cause.

"They are really two different kinds of stones, so the relationship is not going to be simple between the two conditions," Dr. Taylor said.

SOURCE: bit.ly/pMoRpk

J Urol 2011.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Oct 14 - Once patients have had kidney stones they seem to have a heightened risk of gallstones -- and vice versa, according to a new study.

I could have told them that. I've had stones in my salivary gland as well.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-18   10:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

I had a kidney stone once. I was crawling on the floor.

"The smallest deed is better than the grandest intention" --Roger Baldwin

Turtle  posted on  2011-10-18   13:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

I had a kidney stone once. I was crawling on the floor.

Yeah I hit the floor with mine as well. Between kidney stones and child birth, I'll take child birth.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-18   15:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle, farmfriend, abraxas (#2)

I had a kidney stone once. I was crawling on the floor.

And here I thought that was your normal position.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-18   15:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

And here I thought that was your normal position.

LOL

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-18   16:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: 4. To, Turtle, farmfriend (#1)

Were you able to find the cause of the stones: not drinking a gallon of water a day, too much dairy/calcium, excess acidity, eating more fruit than the recommended daily servings?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-10-18   22:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tatarewicz (#6)

Were you able to find the cause of the stones: not drinking a gallon of water a day, too much dairy/calcium, excess acidity, eating more fruit than the recommended daily servings?

none of the above

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-18   23:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#7)

From WiseGeek - Health

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are...toms-of-kidney-stones.htm

What are the Symptoms of Kidney Stones? Kidney stones are tiny pieces of minerals, like calcium, that collect in the kidneys and are too large to pass easily along the ureter, to the bladder, and out through the urethra. Symptoms of kidney stones, called nephrolithiasis, include extreme localized pain, perspiration, and often an associated infection.

The most common symptom of kidney stones is a debilitating, shooting, intense pain anywhere in the abdomen. A kidney stone still lodged in the kidney would cause pain on one side, near your lower back. If it has moved partly down your ureter, the passage connecting the kidneys to the bladder, the pain might originate in your lower abdomen, side, or groin. A strong, continuous pain might indicate that the kidney stone is stuck permanently and will not be passed without a doctor's intervention.

Other symptoms of kidney stones include clammy, cold, hot, or sweaty skin accompanying a fever or chills. Fever usually means the stone has caused a blockage, and your kidneys and urination cannot function normally. This kind of infection must be treated with antibiotics, as well as by removing the kidney stone. You might also be tired, nauseated, not hungry, or experience diarrhea or constipation.

Some symptoms of kidney stones are very similar to the symptoms of a urinary tract infection or cystitis, especially in women. These have to do with urination. You might notice discolored or cloudy urine and pain, smarting, or burning during urination. A frequent or urgent need to urinate is usually a false alarm, as it may be difficult to actually urinate more than a tiny amount.

Given these warning symptoms, a doctor can diagnose kidney stones by doing a blood or urine test, conducting an ultrasound, or taking an X-ray with or without dye. Then a medical professional can eliminate the kidney stone by a variety of methods, ranging from non-invasive flushing with lots of liquid, to minor surgery under general anaesthetic.

gerrardoh Post 1 When I was a child , I had many gastric problems. As a teenager, I had two kidney stone blockages which made me pass out and waking up in hospital for surgery.Now in my fifties, I have coronary arterial plaquing indicating a different kind of blockage. After researching, consulting and rational deduction,I believe I have been lactose intolerant all my life as one of my sons also is. I have never enjoyed milk, and decided that calcium from dairy and my metabolism do not co-operate properly.I tried chocolate soy drink as an alternative but found after a couple of years, that extra calcium was added to the product> From that point onward , I read all the packaging.I am positive that calcium, bad fats and white blood cells combine incorrectly to create plaquing.There is a way to reverse this, finding the starting regimes is individual.Any ideas?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-10-19   1:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tatarewicz (#8)

I knew I had kidney stones as soon as the pain started. I'd already had gall stones and stones in my salivary gland. My husband said it was the rocks falling out of my head.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-19   1:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9)

Probably could not be wrong in suggesting stress as a contributor to stone formation..Dr. Coldwell said on C2C 86% of visits to doctors stem from some form of stress.

More from WiseGeek:

Renal calculi are small chunks of crystallized material which become trapped in the kidneys, bladder, or urinary tract. A renal calculus can be extremely painful, and the patient may not be able to pass it without assistance. A variety of treatments are available to deal with renal calculi, also known as kidney stones, and analgesics are also available to help people cope with the pain involved.

Around one in 10 people experiences a kidney stone at some point during life. Several things appear to increase the risk of developing renal calculi, including dehydration, diet, and certain medical conditions, like gout, diabetes, high blood pressure, and irritable bowel disease. In all cases, the calculus is formed when minerals which would normally naturally precipitate out conglomerate to form a crystallized mass which can vary in size.

A small renal calculus may pass relatively successfully, sometimes with the patient only becoming aware of the issue as the stone moves down the ureter, into the bladder, and out the urethra. In other instances, such as the large staghorn stones which can get quite big, the kidney stone may cause extreme pain, but it will not move on its own. Big renal calculi need to be removed with medical assistance, whether the assistance take the form of a stent inserted to allow the stone to drop out naturally, or surgery to take the calculus out by hand. Ads by Google Ask a Doctor Online Now A Doctor Will Answer You Now! Medical Answers Today: 233. Web.JustAnswer.com/MD Top Hemorrhoid Treatments Get rid of hemorrhoids fast by Hemorrhoids.org's top picks. www.Hemorrhoids.org #1 Kidney Stone Remedy 10x Stronger Liquid Formula Pain Gone. Stones Dissolved. www.CompleteNaturalProducts.com Treatment For Pain Try Rub A535 For Fast And Effective Relief Of Muscle And Joint Pain. RubA535.com/Treatment-For-Pain How To Pass Kidney Stones Find more sources/options for How To Pass Kidney Stones www.webcrawler.com

Humans have been dealing with renal calculi for a very long time, and lithotomy, the removal of renal calculi, is one of the oldest known surgical procedures. The pain would have been considerable in eras before anesthesia, and complicated by an imperfect understanding of internal anatomy, but often the pain from the calculus itself was so severe that patients were willing to take the risk. With the 20th century came the development of a number of painless and low-pain techniques, including things like extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy, in which the stones are broken up with ultrasound so that they will be passed by the body.

People usually know when a renal calculus is present, because it causes a distinctive colicky pain and cramping, especially if it moves out of the kidney and into the urinary tract. Difficulty urinating, blood in the urine, and extreme pain in the lower abdomen are common symptoms. The stone can be diagnosed by a doctor with the assistance of medical imaging, and the doctor can make treatment recommendations based on the size and position of the calculus.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-10-19   3:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tatarewicz (#6)

In my EDS (electro-dermal screening) practice, I often find that people with gall and kidney stones have more than their share of parasites. In fact, Hulda Clarke has stated that the body will form stones around imbedded parasites to protect the body from the damage they do.

I can't do much when the stones are already formed but once I kill the parasites, people seldom get future attacks.

Pamela  posted on  2011-10-19   7:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tatarewicz (#6)

Were you able to find the cause of the stones: not drinking a gallon of water a day, too much dairy/calcium, excess acidity, eating more fruit than the recommended daily servings?

Dehyrated, drinking soda pop.

I no longer drink it, except for a root beer about every six months.

"The smallest deed is better than the grandest intention" --Roger Baldwin

Turtle  posted on  2011-10-19   12:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pamela (#11)

In my EDS (electro-dermal screening) practice

I do not see a doctor or dentist unless they use it.

"The smallest deed is better than the grandest intention" --Roger Baldwin

Turtle  posted on  2011-10-19   12:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pamela (#11)

Hulda Clarke has stated that the body will form stones around imbedded parasites to protect the body from the damage they do.

Is it the body forming a parasite envelope or is it the parasite creating its own "space ship" for travel to new territory?

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-10-20   1:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#13)

Smart man, Turtle. Doctors and dentists are able to check the body's response to drugs and treatments in order to determine efficacy/potential harm. Not many are aware of it, though.

Pamela  posted on  2011-10-20   19:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tatarewicz (#14)

LOL. Interesting thought!

Pamela  posted on  2011-10-20   19:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle, 4 (#2)

I had a 8mm kidney stone while I was in FL last March. I also was on the floor. It took two weeks before I could get into surgery (lithotripsy) to have it broken up. I had morphine for pain and I was still in the fetal positions at times. The lithotripsy worked wonderfly. Since then I put myself on a therapy of drinking the juice of 20 lemons 1x every other month. In May I passed a 5mm stone that was in my right kidney, so as of today I'm stone free. Yea!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-10-20   20:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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