"Kennedy, the 38-year-old son and namesake of America's 35th president, was flying with his wife, Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, 33, and his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette, 34, when his six-seat, single-engine Piper Saratoga crashed seven miles south of his Martha's Vineyard home. All three were killed.
A report by the National Transportation Safety Board blamed pilot error for the crash, saying Kennedy, who had been flying for 15 months, was not skilled enough for low-visibility nighttime flying and became disoriented in the hazy sky."
The Assassination of JFK Jr - Full Version
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John John Had been flying for 17 years, he had already passed the quals for IFR, and his instructors all said that he was "methodical in his planning".
They murdered him, folks.
And I'm still sick about it.
If you don't have 1:46:48 to watch the video now, please bookmark it and watch it later. The skullduggery surrounding this plane crash is even more obvious than when they murdered his father.
John F. Kennedy, Jr. obtained his private pilot certificate in April 1998. He received a "high performance airplane" sign-off in his Cessna 182 in June 1998 and a "complex airplane" sign-off in the accident airplane (Piper Saratoga) in May 1999. Although he completed the FAA's written airplane instrument examination about four months before the accident, he did not possess an instrument rating.
Junior's estimated total flight experience, excluding simulator training, was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot's estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which 9.4 hours were at night. Approximately three hours of that flight time was without a certified flight instructor on board, and about 0.8 hour of that time was flown at night, which included a night landing. You are giving him credit for 17 years of flying time, which is totally misleading and irrelevant. As anyone can see, his RECORD is 310 hours total time as PIC.
Also passing a written IFR ticket exam is not that difficult, passing the instrument flight check is totally different. Junior got himself into a situation that was far beyond his capabilities, VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions.
#54. To: Phant2000, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Lod, IRTorqued, Original_Intent, RickyJ, Shoonra, FormerLurker, Turtle, Phant2000, Artisan, wudidiz, christine (#4)
John F. Kennedy, Jr. obtained his private pilot certificate in April 1998. He received a "high performance airplane" sign-off in his Cessna 182 in June 1998 and a "complex airplane" sign-off in the accident airplane (Piper Saratoga) in May 1999. Although he completed the FAA's written airplane instrument examination about four months before the accident, he did not possess an instrument rating.
Junior's estimated total flight experience, excluding simulator training, was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot's estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which 9.4 hours were at night. Approximately three hours of that flight time was without a certified flight instructor on board, and about 0.8 hour of that time was flown at night, which included a night landing. You are giving him credit for 17 years of flying time, which is totally misleading and irrelevant. As anyone can see, his RECORD is 310 hours total time as PIC.
Also passing a written IFR ticket exam is not that difficult, passing the instrument flight check is totally different. Junior got himself into a situation that was far beyond his capabilities, VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions.
"The same variables that affect the cost of learning to fly will affect the time it takes to earn your certificate. The FAA has established the minimum number of flight hours needed to obtain a certificate. Under Part 61 of the federal aviation regulations, the minimums are 20 hours for a sport pilot certificate, 30 hours for a recreational certificate, and 40 hours for a private pilot certificate.
Some schools operate under an alternate regulation, Part 141, which provides more FAA oversight, more rigid schedules, and more paperwork. The added requirements allow them to reduce the minimum hours of private pilot training to 35 hours. However, many schools believe that a true average flight training time for a private pilot is between 50 and 60 hours, whether the school operates under Part 61 or Part 141. Others believe that 68 to 70 hours is the more likely average. These flight hours can be spread over a time span of several months to a year or more."
JFK Jr. had between six and ten times the required number of hours to qualify for a license. (This puts your attempt to make his 300 plus hours seem like a paltry number in an honest perspective. Sorry, but I had to do it.)
And, according to all honest sources with no agenda he never flew without an instructor. (Care to guess the cost of accruing so many hours accompanied by a CFI?)
The fact that he may have taken years to finally get a license makes sense when one considers that A) in order to qualify a certain amount of hours must be accrued within a limited time period, and B) he was one of the busiest men in America and involved in many other activities and he was in no hurry to be another licensed but marginally experienced pilot.
Regarding the assertion that he was "VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions." , that is a whopper that even the ugly conspirators long ago abandoned. The official weather record shows that it was a blue bird evening for flying with visibility in excess of ten miles. And having passed the tests for his instrument ticket all he needed was a few more hours. You seem to want to ignore the fact that he had multiples of the hours and experience needed for a pilot license and an even an instructor's license, many more than others who already held the official govt paperwork but weren't nearly as experienced.
This thread has been an interesting study in the triggering of Pavlovian responses by the shills at 4um.
I'd like to thank those who are much more capable than I who set the record straight. With the exception of Turdle (who is just stupid in my view) the shills reflexively took the bait like predator fish who are hardwired to attack wounded or dying fish even if the predator isn't otherwise hungry or biting.
And, Jethro Tull, if you please I'd appreciate it if you'd read up on the murder of JFK, jr., his wife and sister-in-law. (The provable lies from the govt are stark and a matter of record) And, I believe you'll form the opinion that he was a conscientious and careful pilot who was in no hurry to receive the official blessing of the same govt that closed ranks around those who murdered his father and uncle. He was more concerned with being the best pilot he could be in each of his planes, and like you and I he'd have never put his loved ones at risk if he could have avoided it. And, he could have been licensed years before (like many who were and are licensed with a fraction of his logged flight hours) if bragging rights was what he was about.
And, Shoonra, had JFK, jr. chosen to run for any office you would have seen that he was the most beloved and electable candidate in our lifetimes, and you'd have been forced to resort to some other slimy avenue of attack in order to fulfill your mission.
The video and its amateurish effort to reinvent and resurrect Camelot by painting the Kennedy clan in gold, was a pathetic and childish effort to rewrite history.
The entire video and its dialogue borders on being assinine, making one wonder how any intelligent person could possibly give any part of it serious consideration. Within the first minute, photos of the three brothers appear, all dead by the unseen hands of others in one giant world conspiracy.
The first to die, Joe, was murdered by Roosevelt, then the other two by Oswald/Sirhan; all by one giant hand of WORLD WIDE conspiracy. Then it is Junior's turn, and once again "they" did it. How childish to allow any credibility to such patent nonsense. To believe that everyone involved over an extensive period of years, lied and falsified the deaths of the Kennedys, is appalling ignorance.
As for the aviation aspect, this from FAA publications:
"FAA RISK MANAGEMENT HANDBOOK H-8083-2
This FAA handbook provides tools to help pilots determine and assess each situation for the safest possible flight with the least amount of risk. Pilots who practice effective risk management possess predetermined personal standards and have formed habit patterns and checklists to incorporate them. This handbook presents methods pilots can use to manage the workloads associated with each phase of flight, resulting in a safer, more enjoyable and less stressful experience for both themselves and their passengers."
In the last 20 years, approximately 85 percent of aviation accidents have been caused by “pilot error”; often the result of a tendency in flight training to focus solely on the physical aspects of flying the aircraft. The flight instructor who integrates risk management into flight training teaches aspiring pilots how to be more aware of potential risks in flying, how to clearly identify those risks, and how to manage them successfully — leading to a solid understanding of how to avoid the most common pilot errors.
I agree with your #74, and age does have a benefit in the Kennedy matters. I lived through them all, and all save Teddy the sot, raised my antenna. This drugging of him followed by someone unknown driving his car off the bridge is a new one on me. Hell, 'ya think if he realized the government killed his brothers, then this happened to him, he'd take the cork out of his mouth. I sure would. For Teddy, excessive booze, a subservient police department, aided by the local DA, and mega political clout, seems to make sense to me.
Even pigs (and he was) like to live. But we digress. That tube offered no proof to what appears to be an opinion offered as fact. If Alex Jones prepared that, some heads would explode here :P