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Title: OFFICIAL LIES ABOUT JFK, jr.
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washingtonpost.com
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 7020601495.html?referrer=yahoo
Published: Oct 25, 2011
Author: HOUNDDAWG
Post Date: 2011-10-25 06:23:12 by HOUNDDAWG
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Comments: 142
"Kennedy, the 38-year-old son and namesake of America's 35th president, was flying with his wife, Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, 33, and his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette, 34, when his six-seat, single-engine Piper Saratoga crashed seven miles south of his Martha's Vineyard home. All three were killed. A report by the National Transportation Safety Board blamed pilot error for the crash, saying Kennedy, who had been flying for 15 months, was not skilled enough for low-visibility nighttime flying and became disoriented in the hazy sky." Poster Comment: John John Had been flying for 17 years, he had already passed the quals for IFR, and his instructors all said that he was "methodical in his planning". They murdered him, folks. And I'm still sick about it. If you don't have 1:46:48 to watch the video now, please bookmark it and watch it later. The skullduggery surrounding this plane crash is even more obvious than when they murdered his father.
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#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#0)
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NTSB Identification: NYC99MA178 Date:16 July 1999 Location: Vinyard Haven, MA Aircraft:Piper PA-32R-301 (Saratoga), registration: N9253N John F. Kennedy, Jr. obtained his private pilot certificate in April 1998. He received a "high performance airplane" sign-off in his Cessna 182 in June 1998 and a "complex airplane" sign-off in the accident airplane (Piper Saratoga) in May 1999. Although he completed the FAA's written airplane instrument examination about four months before the accident, he did not possess an instrument rating. Junior's estimated total flight experience, excluding simulator training, was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot's estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which 9.4 hours were at night. Approximately three hours of that flight time was without a certified flight instructor on board, and about 0.8 hour of that time was flown at night, which included a night landing. You are giving him credit for 17 years of flying time, which is totally misleading and irrelevant. As anyone can see, his RECORD is 310 hours total time as PIC. Also passing a written IFR ticket exam is not that difficult, passing the instrument flight check is totally different. Junior got himself into a situation that was far beyond his capabilities, VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions.
Junior's estimated total flight experience, excluding simulator training, was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot's estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which 9.4 hours were at night. Approximately three hours of that flight time was without a certified flight instructor on board, and about 0.8 hour of that time was flown at night, which included a night landing. You are giving him credit for 17 years of flying time, which is totally misleading and irrelevant. As anyone can see, his RECORD is 310 hours total time as PIC. Also passing a written IFR ticket exam is not that difficult, passing the instrument flight check is totally different. Junior got himself into a situation that was far beyond his capabilities, VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions. "The same variables that affect the cost of learning to fly will affect the time it takes to earn your certificate. The FAA has established the minimum number of flight hours needed to obtain a certificate. Under Part 61 of the federal aviation regulations, the minimums are 20 hours for a sport pilot certificate, 30 hours for a recreational certificate, and 40 hours for a private pilot certificate. Some schools operate under an alternate regulation, Part 141, which provides more FAA oversight, more rigid schedules, and more paperwork. The added requirements allow them to reduce the minimum hours of private pilot training to 35 hours. However, many schools believe that a true average flight training time for a private pilot is between 50 and 60 hours, whether the school operates under Part 61 or Part 141. Others believe that 68 to 70 hours is the more likely average. These flight hours can be spread over a time span of several months to a year or more." _____________________________________ Phant2000, JFK Jr. had between six and ten times the required number of hours to qualify for a license. (This puts your attempt to make his 300 plus hours seem like a paltry number in an honest perspective. Sorry, but I had to do it.) And, according to all honest sources with no agenda he never flew without an instructor. (Care to guess the cost of accruing so many hours accompanied by a CFI?) The fact that he may have taken years to finally get a license makes sense when one considers that A) in order to qualify a certain amount of hours must be accrued within a limited time period, and B) he was one of the busiest men in America and involved in many other activities and he was in no hurry to be another licensed but marginally experienced pilot. Regarding the assertion that he was "VFR rated only and in very marginal VFR conditions." , that is a whopper that even the ugly conspirators long ago abandoned. The official weather record shows that it was a blue bird evening for flying with visibility in excess of ten miles. And having passed the tests for his instrument ticket all he needed was a few more hours. You seem to want to ignore the fact that he had multiples of the hours and experience needed for a pilot license and an even an instructor's license, many more than others who already held the official govt paperwork but weren't nearly as experienced. This thread has been an interesting study in the triggering of Pavlovian responses by the shills at 4um. I'd like to thank those who are much more capable than I who set the record straight. With the exception of Turdle (who is just stupid in my view) the shills reflexively took the bait like predator fish who are hardwired to attack wounded or dying fish even if the predator isn't otherwise hungry or biting. And, Jethro Tull, if you please I'd appreciate it if you'd read up on the murder of JFK, jr., his wife and sister-in-law. (The provable lies from the govt are stark and a matter of record) And, I believe you'll form the opinion that he was a conscientious and careful pilot who was in no hurry to receive the official blessing of the same govt that closed ranks around those who murdered his father and uncle. He was more concerned with being the best pilot he could be in each of his planes, and like you and I he'd have never put his loved ones at risk if he could have avoided it. And, he could have been licensed years before (like many who were and are licensed with a fraction of his logged flight hours) if bragging rights was what he was about. And, Shoonra, had JFK, jr. chosen to run for any office you would have seen that he was the most beloved and electable candidate in our lifetimes, and you'd have been forced to resort to some other slimy avenue of attack in order to fulfill your mission.
Great post. The two outstanding and irrefutable factoids are that the weather was clear and he wouldn't commit suicide to off his wife and her sister. EDIT: (Not to forget the 15.5 hour delay in initiating a Search and Rescue mission). Shoonra should head everyone's bozo list since reponses from this troll are predictable and foolish.
#103. To: noone222, Shoonra (#55)
CAPITALIST IDEA, COMRADE! Of course Shoonra's response will be predictable:
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#54. To: Phant2000, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Lod, IRTorqued, Original_Intent, RickyJ, Shoonra, FormerLurker, Turtle, Phant2000, Artisan, wudidiz, christine (#4)
John F. Kennedy, Jr. obtained his private pilot certificate in April 1998. He received a "high performance airplane" sign-off in his Cessna 182 in June 1998 and a "complex airplane" sign-off in the accident airplane (Piper Saratoga) in May 1999. Although he completed the FAA's written airplane instrument examination about four months before the accident, he did not possess an instrument rating.
#55. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
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Replies to Comment # 55. Shoonra should head everyone's bozo list since reponses from this troll are predictable and foolish.
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