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Title: OFFICIAL LIES ABOUT JFK, jr.
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Published: Oct 25, 2011
Author: HOUNDDAWG
Post Date: 2011-10-25 06:23:12 by HOUNDDAWG
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Views: 2696
Comments: 142
"Kennedy, the 38-year-old son and namesake of America's 35th president, was flying with his wife, Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, 33, and his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette, 34, when his six-seat, single-engine Piper Saratoga crashed seven miles south of his Martha's Vineyard home. All three were killed. A report by the National Transportation Safety Board blamed pilot error for the crash, saying Kennedy, who had been flying for 15 months, was not skilled enough for low-visibility nighttime flying and became disoriented in the hazy sky." Poster Comment: John John Had been flying for 17 years, he had already passed the quals for IFR, and his instructors all said that he was "methodical in his planning". They murdered him, folks. And I'm still sick about it. If you don't have 1:46:48 to watch the video now, please bookmark it and watch it later. The skullduggery surrounding this plane crash is even more obvious than when they murdered his father.
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#103. To: noone222, Shoonra (#55)
CAPITALIST IDEA, COMRADE! Of course Shoonra's response will be predictable:
Thank you.
Of course not my friend. Any skepticism you may hold is sincere and understandable. And any time I finger those who show themselves you may assume that your are excepted no matter what you write. We know each other well enough to be certain that we are both honest about our politics and that neither has a hidden agenda.
The family did nothing to quell it when they (received God knows how much jack) refused to allow an autopsy to be performed on her body. She would have been 71 this year. I didn't know that either. If true then it might not have been an accident at all. But even if it was an accident, he is still to blame for being drunk. God is always good!
I agree with your post regarding JFK jr. FYI, Rick Nelson bought a WWII era plane that was made of flammable magnesium. During the flight the pilot saw a warning light that resulted in his turning off the heater as a precaution. After Rick's girlfriend complained of the cold (at high altitude) Rick went forward and turned the heater on against the pilot's advice and a fire started in the plane. They had made an emergency landing and the pilot and co-pilot escaped through the windows next to their seats, and Rick and his lady were found huddled together after succumbing to the fumes from the fire. The pilot executed a successful emergency ditch in a field and they did not crash. And, the circs were such (faulty wiring or electrical short/overload) that tox screens were not relevant to the deaths of Nelson and his sweety squeeze.
chris, please see 105.
Of course not my friend. I don't think you're a shill either, JT. Or Phant or Turdle. Don't know about Shoonra ;) fwiw :) I believe that the mystery man instructor (who was strapped into the missing seat) turned off the fuel valve and put the plane into a dive so quickly that John had no time to counter the pre-programmed suicide order. Once the plane was in a dive the instructor's body weight and stiff arms against the control yoke would have made it impossible for John to pull the plane out of the dive. Also, The debris field was such that everything was recoverable unless it was edible or otherwise of interest to sea creatures. The missing seat should have been among the debris. There was no explosion necessary because (in my opinion) a Manchurian ewe gno watt with access to the controls was on board.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. I can see you're in need of the re-education program so that we can familiarize you with the "new math" Winston. 2 + 2 = 5 "the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
Too funny !!! "the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
i knew that ;)
Ditto to that. Sorry for being presumptuous. Check your PM.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Right you are my friend. There was a time not so long ago when we had to keep our suspicions and our anti govt sentiments to our damned selves. There was no help from the "respectable media" and any state worshipers could simply yell out upon discovering our "treason" and obligatory lynch mobs could be formed on the spot. But now that ready proof and documentation are available on the net the stoopids keep their pie holes shut (unless we're foolish enough to expose our feelings in places where they have a home court advantage, i.e., VFWs, bowling alleys, porn theaters, massage parlors, PROMISE KEEPERS rallies, etc.,.) And, yet, there is still a genetic strain of mutants who believe that any lie we cannot immediately disprove in the course of a thread discussion is the same as the gospel truth. (Shoonra) And in the past at other now-defunct websites (such as Liberty Forum) the only peeps who performed that valuable service were Zionists, Jews, and Zionist Jews, or their little Goy helpers. And, the pattern of defending a rotten to the core govt in discussions that were only tangentially related to Israel if at all was obviously intended to derail any attempts to de-legitimize the Rockefeller-Plutocratic, oak-lined meeting room form of govt. Even though there is no historical precedent to light the path in defeating an enemy of sovereign self govt, there is no precedent that demonstrates a guaranteed victory for them, either. And, each time they heap another abusive rule change on us in the courtrooms and at airports they catch their breaths and hope that their actions don't ignite a flash fire that they cannot stamp out with their gilded wingtip ballet slippers. The thought of that and of the imminent collapse of the almighty Bretton Woods Hebe buck ($) gives me a nice, warm glow all over. My only concern is not that I may end up living in a large concrete sewer pipe, but that some of the peeps I've argued with about the issues may not live to see the crumbling of Kosher Konfidence-backed Kurrency as it goes the way of the Zimbabwe-Mugabe dollar. (Excuse me but, do you have change for a fifty trillion dollar note? My kids' school bus driver demands exact change only.")
No autopsy no foul my friend.
Of that I am also certain, Dream Girl.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. May they live to feel the flames.
Yes indeed. (another heart breaker for U guys)
I can't believe that I'm not familiar with the film. Heck, I swiped a loose board from the fence on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza back in '85, and I thought I had seen everything about the murder of my president. What "they" did to him aside, I have my own axe to grind because those bastards made me cry, and they changed my life on that terrible day. If I ever get the chance I'm gonna kick someone in the balls even if I go to jail for it. Bet on it.
In those innocent times, the American public was na33;ve, perhaps dangerously so. Americans never dreamed that our government and the media would lie to us all about something so important as the killing of our leaders. But, as history has shown, they did just that. We never dreamed that our nation's future was being shaped, not by the ballot box, but by the hired assassins of secretive powerful individuals. Yet it was, and still is. whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.php Excellent resource, Mr. Lod. Thank you for this timely contribution.
May they live to feel the flames. WIRD!
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. I caught the 2nd half of yours, then, thankfully, I remembered Game 6 was on. Is it 4 losses by 8 points or less for U? That's a kick in the sack.
Those who doubt this axiom need only examine the motives of any who delay justice. (The more time and distance between the crime and the offender the more innocent they become) And of course there is also justice perverted. If Bernie Madoff hadn't immediately pleaded guilty while claiming to be the lone gunman who fired those exploding tipped Ponzi bullets at investors, he could have brought down several "respectable" banking houses and many others who helped him spread the word in his community of non-Christians, all of who were looking for suspiciously generous returns on their investments. In fact, many believed that Bernie was swindling unsuspecting Gentiles. The savvy investors knew that such unbelievable returns were not possible through honest money growth except in rare cases of first day pops (public offerings) of stocks such as Microsoft. By quickly closing the case (with the cooperation of an amazingly un-curious justice department) "Honest Bernie Madoff" earned the gratitude of some well connected money changers even though he shaved the wealth of many others. It remains to be seen if he actually serves his "eon plus one day" sentence. Wikipedia claims that Ivan Boesky "served his sentence at Lompoc Federal Prison Camp near Vandenberg Air Force Base in California." But in fact he was allowed to serve most of his reduced sentence in a New York Yeshiva where he could move about the grounds with Jewish prayer books and "rehab his Jewish soul" without the unnecessary interference of Goy prison guards. He also had access to young Jewish boys but that was incidental...After all, whoever heard of a Jewish homosexual? _______________________________ Bernie Madoff's wife claims she and the Ponzi schemer tried to kill themselves with a Christmas Eve pill overdose - and she's glad they failed. Whew, that was close! And thankfully all they got was a good night's rest!
All credit to StartPage.com for drilling down to find it for us. Earlier today, I learned that there are nearly 267M websites on the internet, thanks to StartPage. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff (another ---off, dju think their all related somehow?) says that the Madoff family gets to keep $82 million.
Yes, I use a variation of that. StartPage.com is enhanced with GOOGLE, and their explanation reads that they remove any identifying info about you before submitting any query to GOOGLE. Mine doesn't default to GOOGLE and if the query is inadequate I sometimes go to GOOGLE (which is also on my toolbar). So, I'm going to save the link you supplied and I can then use GOOGLE and keep their snoopy snouts out of my beeswax! Thanks!
I've never known any other and until you pointed it out I didn't think of it in those terms, nor did I envision an alternative. And now that I have, one can only wonder about the remedial cleansing effects of simply outlawing usury. Just think of all the beaks that would be departing on ships and planes to some other hunting grounds. After all, why should people with investment capital have to work or run their own widget businesses when it's so much easier to loan startup and operating capital to others? Their own widget businesses could fail and they could lose money. But if farmers or industrialists fail the capitalist "wizards behind the curtain" sell off the assets and cheerfully whistle all the way to their offshore banks....after their accountants (many of who are relatives) use their magic pencils to show how the capitalists really "lost money". (boo hoo oy!) That's even better than when their own businesses burn to the ground. "My business is gone! I'm ruined! Thank G_D it was heavily insured!"
This is quite generous considering how many folks are suing to force the Madoff Crime Syndicate to reveal the locations of billions of heeb bux. The judge in the trial of former Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC* manager Lou "Chicken Hawk" Pearlman offered to knock off a month for every million that "Honest Lou" helped recover. If Madoff was offered the same deal he could walk tomorrow after buying off every month of his sentence and still have piles of loot hidden away. I'd like to say that I feel just awful about all the nice Jewish peepul Bernie hosed. I'd like to say that, but I can't. Instead of cooperating Madoff may use his ill gotten boodle to lube the system for his eventual release. (there are always secret grease fittings accessible to the rich-Marc Rich's wife Denise supplied the lube with her mouth and her checkbook-to Bill Clinton and the DNC respectively) One day Bernie may be transferred "for medical reasons" (i.e., an inflamed uvula) and he'll disappear, and because no other prison will be expecting him he can slip away unnoticed. Nosy reporters will be kept in check by their editors or the owners of their "news mega-congloms". Until then he'll probably build his own prison with a penthouse for his own "rehab and punishment". The punishment being, he'll have to pay to keep his own tech on staff in case his Elektra Belle Epoque espresso machine goes on the blink.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Shoonra should head everyone's bozo list since reponses from this troll are predictable and foolish.
#104. To: wudidiz (#56)
#105. To: Jethro Tull (#57)
Are you calling me a shill?
#106. To: Lod (#84)
I remember the speculation that she was carrying Ted's child, that more than negligence was involved, etc. etc.
#107. To: randge (#87)
Remember Ricky Nelson's death in an airplane crash one New Year's Eve? Can someone find out if the coroner examined for substance abuse in that case?]
#108. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#105)
#109. To: Jethro Tull, Phant2000, HOUNDDAWG, Turtle, Shoonra, all (#105)
Are you calling me a shill?
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#110. To: Eric Stratton (#59)
Also interesting was that the debris from the plane was never in public view. It was recovered from the ocean and kept under guard at a military base (shades of the WTC 1&2 debris Batman). As well the bodies were quickly cremated without autopsy. Could it be that autopsy would have shown injuries from an explosion?
#111. To: HOUNDDAWG (#110)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#112. To: Eric Stratton (#111)
Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't add up.
#113. To: noone222, Eric Stratton, independent thinkers (#112)
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#114. To: wudidiz (#113)
#115. To: HOUNDDAWG (#103)
#116. To: HOUNDDAWG (#105)
#117. To: HOUNDDAWG (#105)
We know each other well enough to be certain that we are both honest about our politics and that neither has a hidden agenda.
#118. To: noone222 (#114)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#119. To: wudidiz (#113)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#120. To: Eric Stratton, Shoonra (#111)
Look, these days anytime that anything happens whereby there's even a hint of a political motive one must absolutely assume that the Tyranny was involved. Look at their legislation and EOs for cryin' out loud, they pretty much state that stuff like you just referenced is legal now. The difference between then and now, they weren't so bold.
#121. To: noone222 (#115)
#122. To: Jethro Tull (#117)
#123. To: christine (#116)
i knew that ;)
#124. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#125. To: HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull (#105)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#126. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)
but that some of the peeps I've argued with about the issues may not live to see the crumbling of Kosher Konfidence-backed Kurrency
#127. To: Eric Stratton (#125)
That goes for most people actively posting here, eh.
#128. To: farmfriend (#68)
A great movie on the assasination of JFK is called Dark Legacy. chilling.
#129. To: Lod, christine, all the other smart folks on our team (#6)
One more Kennedy death. One more cover-up.
#130. To: randge (#126)
....but that some of the peeps I've argued with about the issues may not live to see the crumbling of Kosher Konfidence-backed Kurrency
#131. To: Jethro Tull (#127)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#132. To: Eric Stratton (#131)
#133. To: tom007, randge, Jethro Tull (#97)
Justice delayed is Justice denied.
#134. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)
#135. To: Jethro Tull (#132)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#136. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#137. To: HOUNDDAWG (#133)
#138. To: Lod (#134)
#139. To: Eric Stratton (#136)
This is what happens when money/wealth becomes a society's god.
#140. To: randge (#137)
U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff (another ---off, dju think their all related somehow?) says that the Madoff family gets to keep $82 million.
#141. To: HOUNDDAWG (#139)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#142. To: HOUNDDAWG (#140)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
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