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Title: Oakland Police "Serving and Protecting"
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URL Source: http://cryptome.org/info/ows-18/ows-18.htm
Published: Oct 27, 2011
Author: w
Post Date: 2011-10-27 09:53:19 by tom007
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Comments: 19

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   11:39:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Imagine what will happen to the PTB when the demonstrators acknowledge that they dont give a damn about demonstrations, and the pigs open fire on teh crowd, ala Kent St.

We outnumber the pigs. And we outgun them. And seeing how pigs shoot at the range, we outshoot them.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   13:12:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#2)

Imagine what will happen to the PTB when the demonstrators acknowledge that they dont give a damn about demonstrations, and the pigs open fire on teh crowd, ala Kent St.

We outnumber the pigs. And we outgun them. And seeing how pigs shoot at the range, we outshoot them.

NOTHING!!!

The numbers you write may add up but the sheeple will split the scene at the sound of the first shot. The PTB know this will be the reaction to their firing shots.

On the news yesterday, in Oakland, there was a man who walked around with an ak-47 strapped over his shoulder. The police did nothing. Why? Because he was a plant, one of the pigs used to make the pigs look like they were being restrained. The day and night before, the pigs brutalized the demonstrators. We must not lose sight of the fact they are in control lest we might get hurt. Windbreakers, ball cap, and sneakers are no match against guns,tear gas, water cannons,body armor,rubber or steel bullets,billy clubs, sound cannons, and state and federal judges.

They have already won!!!!!!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   13:31:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ambi (#4)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   13:35:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

They have already won!!!!!!

Fully agree!

It makes me cry tears of laughter at those who talk tough on this forum and other forums, but sit idly by while the plundering and rape of America goes on year after year, month after month, day after day, hour after hour, minute after minute, and second after second.

All you tough guys and gals ought to put your money where your mouth is. If 10/20 million sheeple marched on DC with all their loaded guns, they might make a difference. But a lone wolf here and there, or marching empty handed, no matter what the cause, or the number makes no sense. There is no strength even in numbers when those who assemble, do so empty handed, and are no match against the heavily armed government thugs.

The demonstrators always seem to get infiltrated by the PTB because they are out matched from the get go. Now if 10/20 million all had a loaded gun, the government thugs would not dare try and infiltrate, but would hightail it and run like a deer in the headlights. This would be the only way to clean out the vermens nest that is now occupying DC. Since this is never going to happen, why not spend your time with your family and prepare for the day when they come knocking at your door telling you it is now your turn to have a date with your creator. That is what is going to happen and what they have planned for us!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   14:11:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   14:44:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Instead, people crying, pissing, and moaning, even here, have their money in their markets; subsist in one form or another on some kind of taxpayer collected monies including SS, medicare, pensions, direct pay from government jobs, etc., etc., et al. and etc., those that vote in their charade (a lesser one), etc., etc. ...

... if they didn't do those things then they'd have less and less and less power over anyone.

Nailed it.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   15:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA2, All (#14)

Mass movements are not the way to go, for that very reason. Which is why they are so afraid of the "lone wolves" and small cells. The time to join together is after the shit starts, not before.

ROFLMAO!

Since you allude to how big this country is, why would they be afraid of a lone wolf? There have been some lone wolves that only sacrificed themselves. Take the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building. He managed to kill himself, destroy his airplane, and leave his family to fend for themselves. You are delusional if you think an occasional lone wolf will make a difference in a country of over 300 million people. Almost every day we see the criminal acts of the government thugs, shooting peoples pets, tasering invalids in wheel chairs, breaking down doors on the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people, cops shooting unarmed people including children and babies, and we simply tolerate it save for a few words hammered out on a computer keyboard. That is shameful!

Addressing your theory that people should divorce themselves from government handouts like social security, medicare, etc, hell we can't even get people to not go to work for even one day, or boycotting companies who are ripping us off, or to stop buying anything to get their attention. Hell we can't even peacefully assemble to try and get our grievances addressed. But you think one lone wolf makes a vast difference, to which I say humbug.

Save what money you have and try to stay healthy. I would hate to find out you receive SS or medicare when you get old. Why that would be a monumental act of the pot calling the kettle black. I also see you advocate for others to get things started, and "THEN" you'll join in. Why didn't you just come out with the truth, you are afraid!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   17:53:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ambi (#15)

Since you allude to how big this country is, why would they be afraid of a lone wolf?

Because it's not possible to infiltrate. They have infiltrated militias, large and small, for years.

Take the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building. He managed to kill himself, destroy his airplane, and leave his family to fend for themselves.

Yep. That was all he did. He jumped the gun. Lack of patience is a killer.

You are delusional if you think an occasional lone wolf will make a difference in a country of over 300 million people.

Did I say that? No.

Almost every day we see the criminal acts of the government thugs, shooting peoples pets, tasering invalids in wheel chairs, breaking down doors on the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people, cops shooting unarmed people including children and babies, and we simply tolerate it save for a few words hammered out on a computer keyboard. That is shameful!

Not shameful. It's human nature. War is supposed to be a last resort, right? Except where your concerns are. With you it is a first resort. Or if not first, it's close to it.

So, you have already said (emphatically, with many "!!!!!!") that we have lost. Which means you already surrendered. So why are you so anxious for a fight? You're not even in it.

Look at history. Revolutions take years to grow. In those years, life is hard. But it comes to an end.

What do you really expect? You think that someone is going to say "Well, ambi thinks we should get the ball rolling. He/she is getting a little antsy. Let's lock and load, for ambi!"

Addressing your theory that people should divorce themselves from government handouts like social security, medicare, etc, hell we can't even get people to not go to work for even one day, or boycotting companies who are ripping us off, or to stop buying anything to get their attention. Hell we can't even peacefully assemble to try and get our grievances addressed. But you think one lone wolf makes a vast difference, to which I say humbug.

Humbug? So it's easier to just bitch about it all? Of course it is.

You're responsible for your own actions. If your (in)actions make you a part of the problem, then you might as well quit complaining. If you cant do these small things, what are you going to do when the shit really gets deep?

And nowhere did I even hint that one lone wolf makes a difference. But many lone wolves do.

I also see you advocate for others to get things started, and "THEN" you'll join in. Why didn't you just come out with the truth, you are afraid!

I said that? Where? I said that to band together is best done after it starts, not before.

Afraid? Well no shit. Anyone that faces death and says they aren't afraid is a fucking liar. Or he's nuts. Neither one is good. Fear is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Giving into that fear is a different story.

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   20:18:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)

And nowhere did I even hint that one lone wolf makes a difference. But many lone wolves do.

Well lets count em'. We have about 15/20 lone wolves striking out each year nationwide, give or take a few. So at that rate they might take out 50 or so pieces of garbage out of a country filled with millions of pieces of garbage. They don't always succeed in their garbage removal. At this rate, wouldn't you agree they could clean up this country in about 3 or 4 million years.

Take the game of football, baseball, basketball, hockey, or almost every other sporting event. It is played with two teams of equal participants even though one team may have bigger or stronger players. One team doesn't send only one player and if he scores, then the rest of the team joins in. To wichic I again say humbug.

As for hinting that a lone wolf makes a difference, by the very term lone wolf you are saying they are afraid of "one" lone wolf. It won't matter whether there are 1 or 1,000, or 100,000 lone wolves all doing their thing without a leader or a common objective, they will accomplish nothing. Wars are won or lost with a trained army with someone leading the way. The best leader and best trained company, brigade, division or corps usually wins. There are a few exceptions, David slaying Goliath being one, but they are as rare as the people who think they have all the right answers, and some of them are on this forum.

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   22:40:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ambi (#18)

Take the game of football, baseball, basketball, hockey, or almost every other sporting event. It is played with two teams of equal participants even though one team may have bigger or stronger players. One team doesn't send only one player and if he scores, then the rest of the team joins in. To wichic I again say humbug.

To which I again say, the "game" hasn't even started yet.

Their power is nothing without the cooperation of the citizens.

I can't think of one revolution that was started by the majority. Certainly our own wasn't.

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