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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   11:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Imagine what will happen to the PTB when the demonstrators acknowledge that they dont give a damn about demonstrations, and the pigs open fire on teh crowd, ala Kent St.

We outnumber the pigs. And we outgun them. And seeing how pigs shoot at the range, we outshoot them.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   13:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA2 (#2) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   13:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA2 (#2)

Imagine what will happen to the PTB when the demonstrators acknowledge that they dont give a damn about demonstrations, and the pigs open fire on teh crowd, ala Kent St.

We outnumber the pigs. And we outgun them. And seeing how pigs shoot at the range, we outshoot them.

NOTHING!!!

The numbers you write may add up but the sheeple will split the scene at the sound of the first shot. The PTB know this will be the reaction to their firing shots.

On the news yesterday, in Oakland, there was a man who walked around with an ak-47 strapped over his shoulder. The police did nothing. Why? Because he was a plant, one of the pigs used to make the pigs look like they were being restrained. The day and night before, the pigs brutalized the demonstrators. We must not lose sight of the fact they are in control lest we might get hurt. Windbreakers, ball cap, and sneakers are no match against guns,tear gas, water cannons,body armor,rubber or steel bullets,billy clubs, sound cannons, and state and federal judges.

They have already won!!!!!!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   13:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ambi (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   13:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

But alas, Duhmerika has also largely become a nation chock-full-o pussies that will just sit there and say "DUH, gee George, those people shoooodn't, PROtest like that. Duh, they're just stirring up truuuble." I know tons of 'em personally.

They're just a modern day version of the loyalists. They don't bother me anymore. But they sure as hell used to piss me off though.

I think that a lot of the things that we hope for simply aren't going to occur.

Not on our timetable. It happens when it happens. I used to think that it was imminent, years ago. But imo that doesn't mean that it can't happen.

I guarantee you, guarantee, that if their odds were less than 50/50 of surviving their brutalistic, psychotic, and Satanic actions, then they'd think twice, thrice, and fourthsies about it.

Satanists are not the authoritarians here. We are about as anti-authoritarian as you can ever get. Anarchists are sniveling whiny pussies.

We'll see. It is definitely getting interesting, and in many of our opinions, something's going to go down, one way or the other, or both, prior to spring. If we were to graph social behavior, I believe we'd see that we're already on the upswing in the exponential part of the curve. Once that point arrives, things "skyrocket" soon afterwards.

I don't know about spring. I learned the hard way not to predict the future like that. But otherwise I agree with you. Every time these pigs act up like they love to do, they lose allies, and not just the person they fucked over but their families/friends/neighbors/coworkers etc, and we gain allies.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   14:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

They have already won!!!!!!

Fully agree!

It makes me cry tears of laughter at those who talk tough on this forum and other forums, but sit idly by while the plundering and rape of America goes on year after year, month after month, day after day, hour after hour, minute after minute, and second after second.

All you tough guys and gals ought to put your money where your mouth is. If 10/20 million sheeple marched on DC with all their loaded guns, they might make a difference. But a lone wolf here and there, or marching empty handed, no matter what the cause, or the number makes no sense. There is no strength even in numbers when those who assemble, do so empty handed, and are no match against the heavily armed government thugs.

The demonstrators always seem to get infiltrated by the PTB because they are out matched from the get go. Now if 10/20 million all had a loaded gun, the government thugs would not dare try and infiltrate, but would hightail it and run like a deer in the headlights. This would be the only way to clean out the vermens nest that is now occupying DC. Since this is never going to happen, why not spend your time with your family and prepare for the day when they come knocking at your door telling you it is now your turn to have a date with your creator. That is what is going to happen and what they have planned for us!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   14:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ambi (#4)

The numbers you write may add up but the sheeple will split the scene at the sound of the first shot. The PTB know this will be the reaction to their firing shots.

Then why haven't they fired those shots? They have nothing to lose, right?

Don't focus on the sheep. Focus on the wolves.

Windbreakers, ball cap, and sneakers are no match against guns,tear gas, water cannons,body armor,rubber or steel bullets,billy clubs, sound cannons, and state and federal judges.

And their body armor is no match for .223 and higher calibers.

They have already won!!!!!!

Nope, They have already lost. It is their use of force that is a sign that they are weak. Bullies are cowards.

It hasn't even started yet.

But no one ever said that it will be painless.

It still pisses me off that some have given up already. But to each his own.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   14:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA2 (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   14:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ambi (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   14:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ambi (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   14:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ambi (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-27   14:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: ambi (#7)

All you tough guys and gals ought to put your money where your mouth is. If 10/20 million sheeple marched on DC with all their loaded guns, they might make a difference. But a lone wolf here and there, or marching empty handed, no matter what the cause, or the number makes no sense. There is no strength even in numbers when those who assemble, do so empty handed, and are no match against the heavily armed government thugs.

I know you didnt ping me, but god dammit I just can't help myself.

You must believe that there are an infinite number of .gov punks. There aren't. Their being "heavily armed" doesn't scare me one bit, because we are well armed too. I know how outnumbered and outgunned they are. You get a certain perspective on how big this country is when living on the road. Others usually don't have that perspective.

The demonstrators always seem to get infiltrated by the PTB because they are out matched from the get go.

Mass movements are not the way to go, for that very reason. Which is why they are so afraid of the "lone wolves" and small cells. The time to join together is after the shit starts, not before.

This would be the only way to clean out the vermens nest that is now occupying DC. Since this is never going to happen,

Why? Because it isn't happening according to your schedule? It takes years of this shit to start a revolution. We're on a slippery slope; we haven't hit the bottom yet.

All you tough guys and gals ought to put your money where your mouth is.

Who says we're "tough"? Who says that we don't put our money where our mouths are?

Or by that do you mean "why haven't you gone postal yet?" Yes, I bet that is exactly what you mean.

I personally haven't even been in a fight since grade school. It's not something to look forward to. But if it has to be done, then do it. But there is no point in starting it. They'll be the ones to start it.

That is what is going to happen and what they have planned for us!

Then you can wait for that knock if you want. Maybe they'll let you go if you are subservient enough. Practice your groveling now, while you still have time, and perhaps your efforts will pay off. If groveling doesn't work, well, a nice headjob is always a welcome occurrence.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   15:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Instead, people crying, pissing, and moaning, even here, have their money in their markets; subsist in one form or another on some kind of taxpayer collected monies including SS, medicare, pensions, direct pay from government jobs, etc., etc., et al. and etc., those that vote in their charade (a lesser one), etc., etc. ...

... if they didn't do those things then they'd have less and less and less power over anyone.

Nailed it.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   15:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA2, All (#14)

Mass movements are not the way to go, for that very reason. Which is why they are so afraid of the "lone wolves" and small cells. The time to join together is after the shit starts, not before.

ROFLMAO!

Since you allude to how big this country is, why would they be afraid of a lone wolf? There have been some lone wolves that only sacrificed themselves. Take the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building. He managed to kill himself, destroy his airplane, and leave his family to fend for themselves. You are delusional if you think an occasional lone wolf will make a difference in a country of over 300 million people. Almost every day we see the criminal acts of the government thugs, shooting peoples pets, tasering invalids in wheel chairs, breaking down doors on the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people, cops shooting unarmed people including children and babies, and we simply tolerate it save for a few words hammered out on a computer keyboard. That is shameful!

Addressing your theory that people should divorce themselves from government handouts like social security, medicare, etc, hell we can't even get people to not go to work for even one day, or boycotting companies who are ripping us off, or to stop buying anything to get their attention. Hell we can't even peacefully assemble to try and get our grievances addressed. But you think one lone wolf makes a vast difference, to which I say humbug.

Save what money you have and try to stay healthy. I would hate to find out you receive SS or medicare when you get old. Why that would be a monumental act of the pot calling the kettle black. I also see you advocate for others to get things started, and "THEN" you'll join in. Why didn't you just come out with the truth, you are afraid!

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   17:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ambi (#15)

Mass movements are not the way to go, for that very reason. Which is why they are so afraid of the "lone wolves" and small cells. The time to join together is after the shit starts, not before.

ROFLMAO!

Since you allude to how big this country is, why would they be afraid of a lone wolf? There have been some lone wolves that only sacrificed themselves. Take the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building. He managed to kill himself, destroy his airplane, and leave his family to fend for themselves. You are delusional if you think an occasional lone wolf will make a difference in a country of over 300 million people. Almost every day we see the criminal acts of the government thugs, shooting peoples pets, tasering invalids in wheel chairs, breaking down doors on the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people, cops shooting unarmed people including children and babies, and we simply tolerate it save for a few words hammered out on a computer keyboard. That is shameful!

Addressing your theory that people should divorce themselves from government handouts like social security, medicare, etc, hell we can't even get people to not go to work for even one day, or boycotting companies who are ripping us off, or to stop buying anything to get their attention. Hell we can't even peacefully assemble to try and get our grievances addressed. But you think one lone wolf makes a vast difference, to which I say humbug.

Save what money you have and try to stay healthy. I would hate to find out you receive SS or medicare when you get old. Why that would be a monumental act of the pot calling the kettle black. I also see you advocate for others to get things started, and "THEN" you'll join in. Why didn't you just come out with the truth, you are afraid!

WOW some thought filled posts here.

Think it is of interest that the top biggest gains of the 0.01% were mainly in the health hospital sector.

Your money or your life.

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tom007  posted on  2011-10-27   19:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ambi (#15)

Since you allude to how big this country is, why would they be afraid of a lone wolf?

Because it's not possible to infiltrate. They have infiltrated militias, large and small, for years.

Take the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building. He managed to kill himself, destroy his airplane, and leave his family to fend for themselves.

Yep. That was all he did. He jumped the gun. Lack of patience is a killer.

You are delusional if you think an occasional lone wolf will make a difference in a country of over 300 million people.

Did I say that? No.

Almost every day we see the criminal acts of the government thugs, shooting peoples pets, tasering invalids in wheel chairs, breaking down doors on the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people, cops shooting unarmed people including children and babies, and we simply tolerate it save for a few words hammered out on a computer keyboard. That is shameful!

Not shameful. It's human nature. War is supposed to be a last resort, right? Except where your concerns are. With you it is a first resort. Or if not first, it's close to it.

So, you have already said (emphatically, with many "!!!!!!") that we have lost. Which means you already surrendered. So why are you so anxious for a fight? You're not even in it.

Look at history. Revolutions take years to grow. In those years, life is hard. But it comes to an end.

What do you really expect? You think that someone is going to say "Well, ambi thinks we should get the ball rolling. He/she is getting a little antsy. Let's lock and load, for ambi!"

Addressing your theory that people should divorce themselves from government handouts like social security, medicare, etc, hell we can't even get people to not go to work for even one day, or boycotting companies who are ripping us off, or to stop buying anything to get their attention. Hell we can't even peacefully assemble to try and get our grievances addressed. But you think one lone wolf makes a vast difference, to which I say humbug.

Humbug? So it's easier to just bitch about it all? Of course it is.

You're responsible for your own actions. If your (in)actions make you a part of the problem, then you might as well quit complaining. If you cant do these small things, what are you going to do when the shit really gets deep?

And nowhere did I even hint that one lone wolf makes a difference. But many lone wolves do.

I also see you advocate for others to get things started, and "THEN" you'll join in. Why didn't you just come out with the truth, you are afraid!

I said that? Where? I said that to band together is best done after it starts, not before.

Afraid? Well no shit. Anyone that faces death and says they aren't afraid is a fucking liar. Or he's nuts. Neither one is good. Fear is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. Giving into that fear is a different story.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-27   20:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA2 (#17)

And nowhere did I even hint that one lone wolf makes a difference. But many lone wolves do.

Well lets count em'. We have about 15/20 lone wolves striking out each year nationwide, give or take a few. So at that rate they might take out 50 or so pieces of garbage out of a country filled with millions of pieces of garbage. They don't always succeed in their garbage removal. At this rate, wouldn't you agree they could clean up this country in about 3 or 4 million years.

Take the game of football, baseball, basketball, hockey, or almost every other sporting event. It is played with two teams of equal participants even though one team may have bigger or stronger players. One team doesn't send only one player and if he scores, then the rest of the team joins in. To wichic I again say humbug.

As for hinting that a lone wolf makes a difference, by the very term lone wolf you are saying they are afraid of "one" lone wolf. It won't matter whether there are 1 or 1,000, or 100,000 lone wolves all doing their thing without a leader or a common objective, they will accomplish nothing. Wars are won or lost with a trained army with someone leading the way. The best leader and best trained company, brigade, division or corps usually wins. There are a few exceptions, David slaying Goliath being one, but they are as rare as the people who think they have all the right answers, and some of them are on this forum.

ambi  posted on  2011-10-27   22:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ambi (#18)

Take the game of football, baseball, basketball, hockey, or almost every other sporting event. It is played with two teams of equal participants even though one team may have bigger or stronger players. One team doesn't send only one player and if he scores, then the rest of the team joins in. To wichic I again say humbug.

To which I again say, the "game" hasn't even started yet.

Their power is nothing without the cooperation of the citizens.

I can't think of one revolution that was started by the majority. Certainly our own wasn't.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-10-28   6:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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