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Title: Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands
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Published: Oct 28, 2011
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Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 28, 2011, 7:51 AM | 732 | 13

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Image: YouTube After suffering being struck by a projectile at Tuesday's Occupy Oakland evictions, Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen is lucid and awaiting brain surgery.

The Guardian reports Olsen "responded with a very large smile" when his parents arrived from Wisconsin to visit him at the hospital. Medical officials say Olsen's able to write and hear, but is having trouble speaking.

Meanwhile, Oakland's Mayor Jean Quan who left town after authorizing the raid, has separated herself from the police. Quan said, "I only asked the chief to do one thing: to do it when it was the safest for both the police and the demonstrators."

Her interim police chief then denied his men had used rubber bullets or flashbang grenades. His goal he said, "... isn't to cause injury to anyone."

In response to the police tactics, OccupyMARINES has issued a formal list of requests in Oakland. Whether these requests are pursued or met should be an indicator of how strong or extensive this branch of the movement has become.

Original demands below:

OccupyMARINES Have Watched Closely The Response From The OPD, The Mayor, The Governor, And All Others Involved In The Oakland Attack On Peaceful Demonstrators; We Have Observed These Pathetic Cowards Refuse Responsibility For Their Actions That May Very Well Alter The Course Of Our Brother’s Life. Additionally, Many Other Police Departments Nationwide Deploy Similar Riot Tactics Against Demonstrators Honoring The OWS 8, A Peaceful Declaration Of Assembly; We Will Organize Peacefully Against These Departments.

In Response To The Oakland Shooting Of Scott Olsen OccupyMARINES Request The Following:

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice. Track Names And Photos Of Each And Email Them To Us Identify The 300 OPD Riot Officers By Name, Photo, And Badge Number With Boots On The Ground Engaging In Illegal Excessive Force Acts Against Peaceful Americans For Prosecution. Identify The Officer Responsible For Harming Scott Olsen By Name And Photo For Prosecution. The Honorable Resignation Of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan And Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan. A Public Apology From California Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. For The Unlawful Injury Of Our Brother Scott Olsen.

We Fully Intend To Make An Example, Legally And Peacefully, Of The Corwards Associated With Harming An American Veteran. We Will Not Stop Until Our Aforementioned Demands Are Met In Their Entirety.

God Be With Scott Olsen, We Pray A Speedy Recovery For Him And His Mother.

Semper Fidelis Scott Olsen

Keep Pushing Forward America We Support You.

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#2. To: tom007 (#0)

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice.

Who are the GOP cowards ?

Otherwise, this event is tragic for the ex-marine but works to the good of our society if the Marines begin to see that they too are serving evil and should remain poised to protect the people regardless of orders from above.

noone222  posted on  2011-10-28   9:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice.

Who are the GOP cowards ?

Yeh, I didn't quite get this either. Plenty of dems involved in the US scam.

tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   9:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeh, I didn't quite get this either. Plenty of dems involved in the US scam.

that was my thought. what are they going to do when they find out it was Ds not Rs? Why the assumption it was Rs? I suddenly feel like I haven't been following this story closely enough.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-28   20:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I suddenly feel like I haven't been following this story closely enough.

Not many have, me included, but this seems to be some big stuff.

End run around the media that has caged us all in their fairy tales.

tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   20:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Make do doubt about it, this was a deliberate attack designed to maximize disabling injuries to the greatest number of people possible. It is NOT a random rogue action by an officer acting in the heat of the moment as the Oakland Police department is attempting to characterize it. It is NOT a tactic suited to civilian crowd control and outright contraindicted according the Geneva Conventions against war crimes, as correctly noted within the posting, This is an illegal tactic even under wartime battlefield conditions. The United States et al. and it's constituents are a signator of this international law.

What you see in the video is a highly formalized tactic that is designed specifically for a war-time battle field. It is standardized training for all branches of military despite it's outlawed status and has a specific goal and clear objective:

* First, to create a disabling injury among one or a few battlefield combatants.

* Next to draw in others in larger numbers to assist and evacuate the wounded.

* To attract a high-priority target for elimination, specifically battlefield medics.

The rational:

To leverage the number of casualties and deaths by eliminating the ability for combatants to achieve recovery by resucitation, treatment of injuries or otherwise rehabilitated enough to return to battle. That means destroying medics, RNs, doctors or others that come to help the wounded. This ensures that other wounded recieve no assistance and serves to guarantee the effectiveness and success of an attack by way of:

INTENTIONALLY INFLICITING DISABLING INJURIES OR DEATH TO KEY TACTICAL TARGETS WITH FURTHER OBJECTIVE TO LEVERAGE THE NUMBER OF INCAPACITATING INJURIES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.

What happens next is to make the remaining combatants become easy pickings for destruction as they are bogged down by rescue efforts. What Oakland Police did was in the purest sense and by definition of International Conventions a premeditated act akin to war as the tactic is formalized to that exact purpose. What has occurred is the clearest indication of how civilian policing has tranformed into a offensive based militaristic organization in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States.

The officer involved currently has a $1000 reward outstanding to secure his identification. There should be gathering around the idea of soliciting a much higher reward to ensure he is brought to justice under the jurisdiction of the (ICC) International Criminal Court. Carrying with it implicit promise, all other such illegal actions under the color of authority will also meet swift and sure punishment equal to a international war crime.

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tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   21:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The officer involved currently has a $1000 reward outstanding to secure his identification. There should be gathering around the idea of soliciting a much higher reward to ensure he is brought to justice under the jurisdiction of the (ICC) International Criminal Court. Carrying with it implicit promise, all other such illegal actions under the color of authority will also meet swift and sure punishment equal to a international war crime.

I expect the City of Oakland to stonewall on the identification of the Pig who did this. What I suspect, but cannot prove, is that he was not Oakland PD but a specially trained Fed who had been slipped in to provoke an "incident". What it appears to be from the circumstances and actions is the attempt to throw a "lit match" onto a pool of gasoline. The attack on the Marine was, I believe, a premeditated attempt to create a riot and it backfired.

Now the Mayor is acting scared, there was already a recall petition circulating, and the "Good Mayor" is under pressure from above to stay shut up "or else".

This incident is going to bring down big thunder on the city of Oakland and holds the potential to unmask the fact that Feds are being inserted into these type of civil situations to escalate them to a level that then justifies a police clampdown and abuse, in the eyes of the Sheeple, as a response to "out of control" rioters.

I have seen this pattern before. In Portland, during the anti-Iraq War demonstrations in 2003, there was an incident that drew attention but was papered over and nothing ever came of it. What occurred was black clad Pigs advancing on otherwise peaceful demonstrators inflicted the maximum amount of pain possible - in one instance Pepper Spraying a young father holding his toddler daughter and simply trying to get out of the vicinity and the Pig Pepper Sprayed them both in the face as they tried to flea the scene.

These are all Psychological Operations aimed at inciting, creating, a desired response. Have no doubt but that these tactics were created at some Psychiatric Think Tank whether at Tavistock, CIA, or Mossad.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-28   23:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I expect the City of Oakland to stonewall on the identification of the Pig who did this. What I suspect, but cannot prove, is that he was not Oakland PD but a specially trained Fed who had been slipped in to provoke an "incident". What it appears to be from the circumstances and actions is the attempt to throw a "lit match" onto a pool of gasoline. The attack on the Marine was, I believe, a premeditated attempt to create a riot and it backfired.

Now the Mayor is acting scared, there was already a recall petition circulating, and the "Good Mayor" is under pressure from above to stay shut up "or else".

This incident is going to bring down big thunder on the city of Oakland and holds the potential to unmask the fact that Feds are being inserted into these type of civil situations to escalate them to a level that then justifies a police clampdown and abuse, in the eyes of the Sheeple, as a response to "out of control" rioters.

I have seen this pattern before. In Portland, during the anti-Iraq War demonstrations in 2003, there was an incident that drew attention but was papered over and nothing ever came of it. What occurred was black clad Pigs advancing on otherwise peaceful demonstrators inflicted the maximum amount of pain possible - in one instance Pepper Spraying a young father holding his toddler daughter and simply trying to get out of the vicinity and the Pig Pepper Sprayed them both in the face as they tried to flea the scene.

These are all Psychological Operations aimed at inciting, creating, a desired response. Have no doubt but that these tactics were created at some Psychiatric Think Tank whether at Tavistock, CIA, or Mossad.

don't know if these have been posted:

U.S. military warns of plot by Federal Reserve bankers to have CIA mercenaries from Libya kill New York cops.

"...Don't tell anyone that I'm financed by the Federal Reserve bankers.

The Federal Reserve bankers have offered $billions to the CIA mercenaries in Libya to come to the United States and start a bloody rebellion. The Federal Reserve bankers sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to make their offer and terms. According to high ranking U.S. military officials the plot by the Federal Reserve bankers calls for Libyan mercenaries to enter the United States as guest of the Federal Reserve banks. Once on U.S. soil they are to hook up with CIA and DHS contacts and immediately prepare and execute their mission to start shooting New York City cops who are assigned to police the Occupy Wall Street protests....." presscore.ca/2011/?p=4808

False flag attack alert – Shoulder fired missiles smuggled into U.S. from Libya.

"...they were allegedly acquired by and smuggled into the United States by the CIA. The CIA is planning on using them to down U.S. commercial airlines. The downing of U.S. commercial airlines will be blamed on Iran. The U.S. military is looking into a report that the missiles may have entered the U.S. on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s diplomatic plane. Hillary Clinton made an unscheduled stop in Libya last Tuesday October 18, 2011 and held secret meetings with several officials of the National Transitional Council (NTC).

Earlier this week presscore.ca reported that the U.S. military uncovered a plot by the Federal Reserve bankers to kill Americans involved in the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York City using CIA Libyan mercenaries. The plot involved killing New York City cops in order to start a bloody confrontation between the peaceful protesters and New York City cops. ...."

presscore.ca/2011/?p=4834

Then there's this:

USMC sniper vets ready to serve and protect the American people. presscore.ca/2011/?p=4854

[This would actually be prophetic if true. Ezekiel 38:5 "Put" = "Libya (Africa)" according to my study Bible. Maybe it's a wake-up call [Isaiah 52] from God.

There is no doubt in MY mind that Ezekiel 38-39/Rev. 20:7-10 is where we stand in prophetic times, Christian America being the land of Israel (Ezekiel 34:11-16/John 10;Galatians 3:29), the New Jerusalem of unwalled villages for all the men and cattle thereof (Zechariah 2:4)]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-10-31   9:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for the data. At this point I am watching the situation and still sifting. There are too many variables and there is more here than meets the eye. I expect that there will be a lot of planted disinformation, but sifting out what is fact and what is planted requires more data so that I can make comparisons against data of comparable magnitude.

I still lean toward the hypothesis that the initial "Occupy Wall Street" was a set up PsyOp, but that the controlling Psychs running the operation did not expect it to explode in quite the way it did and it has unnerved their masters. They failed to take into account "The Butterfly Effect" i.e., that in a chaotic nonlinear system which has gone out of equilibrium, or been forced out of equilibrium, it will react in unpredictable ways.

Another element still developing is the response of veterans to the brutal attempted murder of Scott Olsen. OWS is NOT a homogeneous mix of different shades of left - which I think was the original intent. Instead we have a spectrum of anarchist left to libertarian right and focus is slowly shifting from simply the lure i.e., Wall Street, to the real nexus which is the central banksters.

Still evolving and developing. Of course the truth that still may not speak its name is that the "1%" is not a homogeneous group either and that the key players creating hell on earth have names like Greedspan, Kissinger, Benancke, Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, etc., ....

Stay Tuned.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31   13:32:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"The Jews are always monopolizing capital and when their depredations become too much for the People, protests and dead Jews result.

So, instead of pointing their fingers at the Jews who cause capitalism to destroy Society, they point their fingers at Capitalism, itself, as the cause of the depredations.

Blaming a non-corporeal idea or system, saves the Jews from being killed for their crimes and opens up a new method of despoiling Society by these same greedy and malicious Jews. Yes, get rid of capitalism that is operated by greedy Jews and bring in Communism or Socialism that is operated by greedy Jews. Such a deal! A real improvement!"

X-15  posted on  2011-10-31   15:24:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, but calling it "the Jooooos" is simplistic. Yes, many of the high level Psychopaths are of Jewish descent, but not all. The problem is not a people it is a diseased mindset which has been infused and conflated with Judaism. The religion, and the people involved are separable. Enforced exclusion actually exacerbates the problem - that is why the Jewish leadership promotes Zionist/Jewish exclusivity and separation - because they perceive that to be the source of their power. By keeping separate and isolated they enhance their control and it provides a wall of defense for the high level criminals. That is why you see the Jewish leadership so concerned and preaching against assimilation. Jews that assimilate into the common culture develop affinity for that culture and as a result are less prone to the types of crimes justified by "anti-semitism". That is why Theodore Hertzl wrote in his diaries that he regarded anti-semites as allies and wanted to inflame anti-semitism as a control tool. To allow one's self to bite on the lure to hate is to disempower one's self. What should be handled is the criminality and it should be done free of hate. It should be done because that is what protects others. Membership in a given cultural group should neither confer prejudice nor protection. It is irrelevant to the degree that we seek to stop the criminal actions.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31   15:39:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but calling it "the Jooooos" is simplistic

why does the israeli haaretz newspaper blame jews for the iraq war?

why does the jewish american writer jim lobe trace the origins of this fiasco back to an incestuous group of american jews who are allied with israel?

why was the PNAC project, that confessed in september of 2000, that they needed "a new pearl harbor" to get their project started... why was that outfit f ounded by israeli amerincan jews?

why were so many of bunnypants' administration recruited from the AEI, which is a hotbed of likud sympathizers, and spawned PNAC?

why are so many of the big looters jewish? ...why did they, professional money people, sell houses to people who couldnt afford them, package those loans and sell them globally, then trigger a global econonic crash that lowered demand for oil, thus obscuring the fact that global oil production had peaked?

was peak oil the triggering motive for the PNAC operation that started the final looting of america?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-31   15:43:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#50. To: lead.and.lag (#48)

was peak oil the triggering motive

No......they have suppressed alternative energy for a very long time. We don't need oil, but they want to squeeze every last dime out of it and fool you into believing that it is the end all.

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-31 15:53:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

we all have to start wondering why exxon is allied with the AEI... if anyone had a realistic estimation about the timing of peak oil, it would have been exxon.

so exxon is allied with the AEI --which is infested with likud sympathizers-- and the AEI spawned PNAC, which admitted they needed a "new pearl harbor".

then, a couple months after PNAC pubnlishes its paper noting their need for "a new pearl harbor", various PNAC signatories like cheney, rumsfeld and wolfowiz, are installed, by a phony election in a state governed by a PNAC member, into some of the highest offices in the US.

then, their new pearl harbor happens.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-31 15:59:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It is simplistic because the nexus of criminality, at the highest levels, is not ALL Jews. It is a small group of high level criminals that have names like Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, Rockefeller, Windsor, Beatrix of Orange, Glucksburg, and other members of the old money European Nobility. As is obvious not all of these are Jews. Jewishness is used as a shield to deflect criticism by the highest levels of the titularly Jewish arm of the high cabal. Calling it a Jewish thing is like calling Organized rackets an "Italian Thing". Are all Italians members of the Mob? Are all Catholics members of the Mob?

Most of the old money Brahmins of the American Northeast are, in theory, Protestant - which is why they hate the Kennedys who are Catholic.

However, trying to make this a matter of Ethnic Politics misses the point. It is a matter of criminality and individual criminal bosses have names. When doing surgery to remove a festering rot you don't cut out everything, you cut out the rot and leave the healthy tissue alone. If Joe has a burst appendix you don't cut Mary's head off to fix it.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31 16:03:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You have made several references to PNAC in this thread so I am archiving this info here for research convenience:

"Rebuilding America's Defenses" – A Summary

Blueprint of the PNAC Plan for U.S. Global Hegemony

Full text of Rebuilding America's Defenses here [PNAC/Project for a New American Century .pdf file; Page numbering citation differences -- ex: search phrase "useful tool", etc.]

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.

Our Leaders, the Enemy -- The Afghan Vortex, etc.

Afghanistan - Krakowsky’s distinction is owed to a strategy paper called “The Afghan Vortex” (May 2000). The main thrust of the paper is the importance of Afghanistan ( “crossroads between what Halford MacKinder called the world’s Heartland and the Indian sub continent. It owes its importance to its location at the confluence of major routes. A boundary between land power and sea power, it is the meeting point between opposing forces larger than itself”; and the opportunities it presents for the West which can be arrived at only with ‘external intervention’. The paper also argues that the ‘interested states’ that have a stake in Afghanistan must see that active participation in stabilizing it is the only solution. “ Only the United States has this capability”, according to Krakowshy[ii].

Then September 11 happened.

How PNAC and OSP [Office of Special Plans] Created the War -- The Afghan Vortex, etc.

The Iraq war and control over energy resources is outlined in Israel's A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" [linked] which was written by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. You can read the IASPS's (Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Science) paper called The Afghan Vortex [linked], written a year before the invasion.

In 1992 Paul Wolfowitz wrote the Defense Planning Guidance, with his former student, Lewis Libby:

"The foreign strategy of the US must be unapologetic, idealistic, assertive and well funded. America must not only be the world's policeman or its sheriff, it must be its beacon and guide... Our first objective is to prevent the re- emergence of a new rival. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power. These regions include Western Europe, East Asia, the territory of the former Soviet Union, and Southwest Asia..There are three additional aspects to this objective: First the U.S must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. Second, in the non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. Finally, we must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."

Paul Wolfowitz, who is now the head of the World Trade Organization, was the former Director of Policy Planning in the Department of Defense (DOD). Wolfowitz was a principle PNAC author and he openly admitted in Vanity Fair magazine (May 2003) that they settled on Weapons of Mass Destruction as the excuse to use to get a war with Iraq: "For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."

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