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Title: Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands
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Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 28, 2011, 7:51 AM | 732 | 13 A A A inShare3 Occupy Oakland Image: YouTube After suffering being struck by a projectile at Tuesday's Occupy Oakland evictions, Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen is lucid and awaiting brain surgery. The Guardian reports Olsen "responded with a very large smile" when his parents arrived from Wisconsin to visit him at the hospital. Medical officials say Olsen's able to write and hear, but is having trouble speaking. Meanwhile, Oakland's Mayor Jean Quan who left town after authorizing the raid, has separated herself from the police. Quan said, "I only asked the chief to do one thing: to do it when it was the safest for both the police and the demonstrators." Her interim police chief then denied his men had used rubber bullets or flashbang grenades. His goal he said, "... isn't to cause injury to anyone." In response to the police tactics, OccupyMARINES has issued a formal list of requests in Oakland. Whether these requests are pursued or met should be an indicator of how strong or extensive this branch of the movement has become. Original demands below: OccupyMARINES Have Watched Closely The Response From The OPD, The Mayor, The Governor, And All Others Involved In The Oakland Attack On Peaceful Demonstrators; We Have Observed These Pathetic Cowards Refuse Responsibility For Their Actions That May Very Well Alter The Course Of Our Brother’s Life. Additionally, Many Other Police Departments Nationwide Deploy Similar Riot Tactics Against Demonstrators Honoring The OWS 8, A Peaceful Declaration Of Assembly; We Will Organize Peacefully Against These Departments. In Response To The Oakland Shooting Of Scott Olsen OccupyMARINES Request The Following: The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice. Track Names And Photos Of Each And Email Them To Us Identify The 300 OPD Riot Officers By Name, Photo, And Badge Number With Boots On The Ground Engaging In Illegal Excessive Force Acts Against Peaceful Americans For Prosecution. Identify The Officer Responsible For Harming Scott Olsen By Name And Photo For Prosecution. The Honorable Resignation Of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan And Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan. A Public Apology From California Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. For The Unlawful Injury Of Our Brother Scott Olsen. We Fully Intend To Make An Example, Legally And Peacefully, Of The Corwards Associated With Harming An American Veteran. We Will Not Stop Until Our Aforementioned Demands Are Met In Their Entirety. God Be With Scott Olsen, We Pray A Speedy Recovery For Him And His Mother. Semper Fidelis Scott Olsen Keep Pushing Forward America We Support You. Please follow Business Insider on Twitter and Facebook. Follow Robert Johnson on Twitter. Ask Robert A Question > Read more: www.businessinsider.com/m...nds-2011-10#ixzz1c51jcASJ
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#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, farmfriend, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, Lod, CadetD, all, anyone left who still gives a shit (#32)
Thanks for the data. At this point I am watching the situation and still sifting. There are too many variables and there is more here than meets the eye. I expect that there will be a lot of planted disinformation, but sifting out what is fact and what is planted requires more data so that I can make comparisons against data of comparable magnitude. I still lean toward the hypothesis that the initial "Occupy Wall Street" was a set up PsyOp, but that the controlling Psychs running the operation did not expect it to explode in quite the way it did and it has unnerved their masters. They failed to take into account "The Butterfly Effect" i.e., that in a chaotic nonlinear system which has gone out of equilibrium, or been forced out of equilibrium, it will react in unpredictable ways. Another element still developing is the response of veterans to the brutal attempted murder of Scott Olsen. OWS is NOT a homogeneous mix of different shades of left - which I think was the original intent. Instead we have a spectrum of anarchist left to libertarian right and focus is slowly shifting from simply the lure i.e., Wall Street, to the real nexus which is the central banksters. Still evolving and developing. Of course the truth that still may not speak its name is that the "1%" is not a homogeneous group either and that the key players creating hell on earth have names like Greedspan, Kissinger, Benancke, Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, etc., .... Stay Tuned. noone gives a shit !!! (noone222 that is !) "the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
Salut!
The self-appointed elite vermin seem to have no problem now fomenting chaos just to see what opportunities will occur to their advantage. This indicates a desperation, a fear that has them planning poorly. Perhaps they are coming to the realization they really have nowhere to hide. Perhaps they are feeling cornered.
I think you are on to something there. Although as Psychotics one of their weaknesses is that they cannot, literally, conceive of being wrong - even when they are deadly wrong. It goes with the psychotic territory. However, I think that it is beginning to sink in that "all is not well in Toonerville". As a result they have tried, either through fear or hubris or both, to speed up their enslavement regimen, and as I predicted about 5 years ago that doing so would be their undoing. They, the psychotic Bankster/Psych elite, sought to impose their will and their grip on all of humanity, but the basic weakness is that they could only do it by remaining covert and hidden. They are no longer quite as well hidden, thanks no small part to the Internet and lots of brave people speaking the truth, and with their cover gone they are increasingly exposed. So, we are still in a race between awareness and their already extensive grip. that's what israel's for... the refuge of last resort. of course, if you're a successful looter, you can buy refuge someplace more civilized than israel... not to mention the fact that israel is probably gonna have to be written off, anyhow, because it was such a bad idea in the first place. yu kos executives flee to israel
Indeed we are. Naming them and sending those names a massive amount of negative sentiment may cower some but I'm afraid many of the more psychotic, when cornered, will respond in a most primitive and savage manner with all the weak minds and weapons they can purchase.
If that is all they have, I understand why they would be afraid.
lol....... " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
well, yes... but if they have enough money, they can buy refuge elsewhere.... berezovsky is hiding out in the UK, for instance... but really, they cant abandon ship too early, cause they'd leave a lot of money on the table... and the pro-semitic sympathy in the US has a lot of momentum, and the public is continually flooded with pro-jewish propaganda. it will be a while yet before things get bad enough that the big jews will have to bail out... and of course, things may get so bad so quick (nuke false flag that drags us into nuke WWIII?) that looters are the least of our worries.... and the looters will be long gone before the shit hits the fan, anyhow. when the fat little goldman boys start, en masse, buying plane tickets to uruguay, then it's time to get worried.
"The Jews are always monopolizing capital and when their depredations become too much for the People, protests and dead Jews result. So, instead of pointing their fingers at the Jews who cause capitalism to destroy Society, they point their fingers at Capitalism, itself, as the cause of the depredations. Blaming a non-corporeal idea or system, saves the Jews from being killed for their crimes and opens up a new method of despoiling Society by these same greedy and malicious Jews. Yes, get rid of capitalism that is operated by greedy Jews and bring in Communism or Socialism that is operated by greedy Jews. Such a deal! A real improvement!" Ditto. That concerns me as well, which is why open violence is not a viable solution. Rather than release their grip on power they would literally destroy the planet and kill every man woman and child. Most people do not really get "in their bones" how truly insane these monsters are. Most people will not even look as they do not have the necessary confront - so they throw up a cloud of unknowingness and retreat into their cocoon of Faux Nooze and CNN. It is like my German Aunt who survived the horrors in Germany and married an American Soldier - everything was always "happy, happy", and avoid confronting the true horror of it all. Another part of our suppressed history is the five to eight million Germans who were slowly murdered, mainly by forced starvation, by the "Noble" Allies following WWII. However, the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all. It is like disarming the fuse on a bomb. We can't delay but we cannot act too quickly or make a wrong move. They truly are criminally insane, and people need to get that. can you envision any way of prying netanyahu's and lieberman's fingers loose from those buttons? israelis have been breeding for radical jewish supremacy for generations, now... are they gonna roll over and play dead, or have they decided that a world without israel-- populated and governed by creatures who are on a spriitual par with cows--- is not worth living in?
I'm sorry, but calling it "the Jooooos" is simplistic. Yes, many of the high level Psychopaths are of Jewish descent, but not all. The problem is not a people it is a diseased mindset which has been infused and conflated with Judaism. The religion, and the people involved are separable. Enforced exclusion actually exacerbates the problem - that is why the Jewish leadership promotes Zionist/Jewish exclusivity and separation - because they perceive that to be the source of their power. By keeping separate and isolated they enhance their control and it provides a wall of defense for the high level criminals. That is why you see the Jewish leadership so concerned and preaching against assimilation. Jews that assimilate into the common culture develop affinity for that culture and as a result are less prone to the types of crimes justified by "anti-semitism". That is why Theodore Hertzl wrote in his diaries that he regarded anti-semites as allies and wanted to inflame anti-semitism as a control tool. To allow one's self to bite on the lure to hate is to disempower one's self. What should be handled is the criminality and it should be done free of hate. It should be done because that is what protects others. Membership in a given cultural group should neither confer prejudice nor protection. It is irrelevant to the degree that we seek to stop the criminal actions.
can you envision any way of prying netanyahu's and lieberman's fingers loose from those buttons? Yes, first you snip the lead carrying power to it, remove their credibility and expose the reality of what they are doing, without triggering any booby-traps. I didn't say it would be easy I said that's what needs to be done. It wouldn't hurt to pray either. why does the israeli haaretz newspaper blame jews for the iraq war? why does the jewish american writer jim lobe trace the origins of this fiasco back to an incestuous group of american jews who are allied with israel? why was the PNAC project, that confessed in september of 2000, that they needed "a new pearl harbor" to get their project started... why was that outfit f ounded by israeli amerincan jews? why were so many of bunnypants' administration recruited from the AEI, which is a hotbed of likud sympathizers, and spawned PNAC? why are so many of the big looters jewish? ...why did they, professional money people, sell houses to people who couldnt afford them, package those loans and sell them globally, then trigger a global econonic crash that lowered demand for oil, thus obscuring the fact that global oil production had peaked? was peak oil the triggering motive for the PNAC operation that started the final looting of america?
This should be of primary concern to every rational person on this planet.
No......they have suppressed alternative energy for a very long time. We don't need oil, but they want to squeeze every last dime out of it and fool you into believing that it is the end all. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
actually, i think they will come out with some sort of alt. energy as a means to minimize the taxation/debt/fake money thingy and remain in a semblance of power.
“Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
we all have to start wondering why exxon is allied with the AEI... if anyone had a realistic estimation about the timing of peak oil, it would have been exxon. so exxon is allied with the AEI --which is infested with likud sympathizers-- and the AEI spawned PNAC, which admitted they needed a "new pearl harbor". then, a couple months after PNAC pubnlishes its paper noting their need for "a new pearl harbor", various PNAC signatories like cheney, rumsfeld and wolfowiz, are installed, by a phony election in a state governed by a PNAC member, into some of the highest offices in the US. then, their new pearl harbor happens.
It is simplistic because the nexus of criminality, at the highest levels, is not ALL Jews. It is a small group of high level criminals that have names like Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, Rockefeller, Windsor, Beatrix of Orange, Glucksburg, and other members of the old money European Nobility. As is obvious not all of these are Jews. Jewishness is used as a shield to deflect criticism by the highest levels of the titularly Jewish arm of the high cabal. Calling it a Jewish thing is like calling Organized rackets an "Italian Thing". Are all Italians members of the Mob? Are all Catholics members of the Mob? Most of the old money Brahmins of the American Northeast are, in theory, Protestant - which is why they hate the Kennedys who are Catholic. However, trying to make this a matter of Ethnic Politics misses the point. It is a matter of criminality and individual criminal bosses have names. When doing surgery to remove a festering rot you don't cut out everything, you cut out the rot and leave the healthy tissue alone. If Joe has a burst appendix you don't cut Mary's head off to fix it. Who is this they? The same who have suppressed the electro magnetic field technology? This 'they' has no intention of minimizing any alternative to fear and lack for humanity. It will come from us, IMHO. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
well, sure... little jews have to be left behind, and be persecuted for the sins of the big jews, seeing as how persecution (and whining about persecution) is such a fundamental part of jewish philosophy. i mean, without persecution and whining, how are jews gonna get into position to start the next cycle of jewish dominance? that's how it works, and if you dont like it, quit being a jew. simple
It must be tried and, of course, preferable to any violence, but, I believe we are on the verge of seeing millions of people unwilling to bet their very survival on being able to talk down the psychopaths.
could be. they may not be smart enough to hedge. “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
There is only one way to "neutralize" and this is to end the secrecy that is destroying this nation and beyond. This is the only way to pry the fingers loose and it is more akin to ripping off the bandage of a festering wound than a careful and slow event, IMHO. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
We often witness their timeline getting a wrench thrown into it and the rush to patch over events that unfold that are unaccounted for and no matter how much effort is thrown at keeping the masses sleeping, we see awakening all around and this cannot be hedged, IMHO. : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
i agree. maybe marie antoinette would have sold the fine tableware had she seen the bonfires on the hillside and heard the hoots from her bed chamber “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
yup, end the secrecy... you could start by refuting the exxon/AEI/CERA bullshit denials of the prime motives to stage 9/11... those motives being, of course, peak oil and global warming. once everyone realizes how bad peak oil threatens the israeli american empire, the rest will fall into place. israel must be secured from sea level rise (by grabbing high ground in the west bank) before america goes tits up from peak oil... so long as there's such a massively-funded effort by the deniers, there's no chance of ripping the veil of secrecy off this operation.
It must be tried and, of course, preferable to any violence, but, I believe we are on the verge of seeing millions of people unwilling to bet their very survival on being able to talk down the psychopaths. I do agree we are reaching a crisis point. Beyond that the future is unsettled. The game is not yet over and the monsters have not yet won - which is why they are becoming a bit frantic. By their calculations we should have already folded and we have only grown stronger. Peak oil is nonexistent. Next talking point. You act as if 911 had something to do with 'saving' humanity from peak oil and glowbull warming.......how naive can you be? It had to do with consolidation of wealth, an end to the consumer age and controlling the masses with fear, especially fear of glowbull warming and peak oil. Sheesh, lead.and.lag, do you fail to realize that EVERY PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS WARMING? lol " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Once everyone realizes that peak oil is another bullshit scare tactic, the rest will fall into place......wake up already! " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
i got to admit that you dont have to be a jew or an israeli or a psychopath or NWO yahoo or whatever to have an aversion to ideas like peak oil and global warming... the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that... ...and of course the people who fund the denial mechanism --people who were the instigators of this PNAC oil and land acquisition project, starting with 9/11--- realize that... denial of peak oil and global warming is an easy sell... which is a good thing, because it would be gruesome if people finally understood why israel, israeli americans and their oily felloow travelers had to kill 3000 americans to get their project started.
One wonders how much force would be required to accomplish this and certainly what kind of response it would elicit. One also wonders why there has not been a concentrated effort by many thousands people using the technology of the day to expose the treacherous plotting of psychos who would devastate humanity.
the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that... Why do you deny that ALL of the planets in our solar system are warming due to changes in the Sun's magnetic field? And what the hell do you plan to do about it? It's not about "denial" it is about not denying that events are unfolding beyond this little blue planet. Peak oil will seem insignificant when the dollar collapses....... " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
of course it will... ...and that's what the money boys are counting on... that's why they sold houses to people who couldnt pay for them... the money boys needed a mechanism to crash the dollar, and the global economy, so the demand for oil will crash, so their motive for this PNAC operation is obscured.
Only the force of human consciousness is necessary to accomplish this.....this will also determine the response it would elicit. The grand demons carry on because we wallow in lack of awareness. I've read of CEO's who have tasted the ramifications of their actions and, on their own, changed their ways simply because of awareness and consciousness. We shall see more of this. But, don't wait to hear the stories on the evening news as they never report them. : ) " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
American Jewish Student Loses Eye During West Bank Protest Washington — Overshadowed by the events of the Gaza-bound flotilla, the May 31 incident at Kalandia crossing near Ramallah went almost unnoticed. Little was reported on the injury of Emily Henochowicz, a 21-year-old American Jewish student who lost her left eye after being hit by a tear gas canister shot by Israeli soldiers during a pro-Palestinian protest. Henochowicz, an art student at Cooper Union in New York, was on an exchange program at the Bezalel Academy of Arts and Design in Jerusalem. She grew up in the Washington suburb of Potomac, Md.; her father was born in Israel, and she holds an Israeli passport by birth. During this recent stay in Israel, she frequently joined pro-Palestinian demonstrations, whether to protest the security barrier or the alleged confiscation of Palestinian homes. ..... The events that led to the May 31 injury are in dispute. Pro-Palestinian activists started off protesting the Gaza flotilla incident when, at the Kalandia checkpoint, one of the main entry routes to Ramallah, the protesters encountered Israeli border patrol soldiers who tried to break up the demonstration, which lacked a permit. A border patrol spokesman said in a statement that soldiers shot tear gas canisters according to the approved protocol for this ammunition. These rules require tear gas to be shot at a 45-degree angle and from a safe distance, so as not to hit protesters directly.
The border patrol conducted an internal investigation of the case and concluded that all actions taken by the soldiers were appropriate. The Israel Defense Forces did not provide an explanation for Henochowicz’s injury, but in the past have explained that similar injuries were unfortunate accidents, since there is no way to completely control the trajectory of tear gas or rubber bullets. But activists standing next to Henochowicz offered a different account. Soren Johanssen from Sweden said, in a statement made public by the International Solidarity Movement, that border patrol soldiers shot directly at the protesters. “They fired many canisters at us in rapid succession,” said Johanssen who, according to ISM, stood next to Henochowicz. “One landed on either side of Emily, then the third one hit her in the face,” he said. Henochowicz was rushed to Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem after losing her left eye, breaking her jaw and suffering multiple wounds to her face, according to her family members and a statement issued by Cooper Union.
True enough. All is not yet lost.
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#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, farmfriend, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, Lod, CadetD, all, anyone left who still gives a shit (#32)
#35. To: noone222 (#34)
#36. To: Original_Intent (#33)
I still lean toward the hypothesis that the initial "Occupy Wall Street" was a set up PsyOp, but that the controlling Psychs running the operation did not expect it to explode in quite the way it did and it has unnerved their masters.
#37. To: eskimo (#36)
Perhaps they are coming to the realization they really have nowhere to hide. Perhaps they are feeling cornered.
#38. To: eskimo (#36)
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Perhaps they are coming to the realization they really have nowhere to hide
#39. To: Original_Intent (#37)
So, we are still in a race between awareness and their already extensive grip.
#40. To: lead.and.lag (#38)
that's what israel's for... the refuge of last resort.
#41. To: eskimo (#40)
If that is all they have, I understand why they would be afraid.
#42. To: eskimo (#40)
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If that is all they have, I understand why they would be afraid.
#43. To: Original_Intent, *The hook-nosed Jew* (#33)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#44. To: eskimo (#39)
but I'm afraid many of the more psychotic, when cornered, will respond in a most primitive and savage manner with all the weak minds and weapons they can purchase.
#45. To: Original_Intent (#44)
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the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.
#46. To: X-15 (#43)
#47. To: lead.and.lag (#45)
the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.
#48. To: Original_Intent (#46)
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but calling it "the Jooooos" is simplistic
#49. To: lead.and.lag (#42)
it will be a while yet before things get bad enough that the big jews will have to bail out... and of course, things may get so bad so quick (nuke false flag that drags us into nuke WWIII?) that looters are the least of our worries....
#50. To: lead.and.lag (#48)
was peak oil the triggering motive
#51. To: abraxas (#50)
#52. To: All (#48)
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#53. To: lead.and.lag (#48)
#54. To: gengis gandhi (#51)
actually, i think they will come out with some sort of alt. energy as a means to minimize the taxation/debt/fake money thingy and remain in a semblance of power.
#55. To: Original_Intent (#53)
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It is simplistic because the nexus of criminality, at the highest levels, is not ALL Jews.
#56. To: Original_Intent (#44)
However, the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.
#57. To: abraxas (#54)
#58. To: eskimo, Original Intent (#56)
the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.
#59. To: gengis gandhi (#57)
they may not be smart enough to hedge.
#60. To: abraxas (#59)
#61. To: abraxas (#58)
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end the secrecy that is destroying this nation and beyond.
#62. To: eskimo (#56)
However, the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.
#63. To: lead.and.lag, abraxas (#61)
once everyone realizes how bad peak oil threatens the israeli american empire, the rest will fall into place.
#64. To: lead.and.lag (#61)
you could start by refuting the exxon/AEI/CERA bullshit denials about the prime motives to stage 9/11... those motives being, of course, peak oil and global warming.
#65. To: lead.and.lag (#61)
once everyone realizes how bad peak oil threatens the israeli american empire, the rest will fall into place.
#66. To: All (#61)
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#67. To: abraxas (#58)
There is only one way to "neutralize" and this is to end the secrecy that is destroying this nation and beyond.
#68. To: lead.and.lag (#66)
denial of peak oil and global warming is an easy sell... the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that...
#69. To: abraxas (#68)
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Peak oil will seem insignificant when the dollar collapses.......
#70. To: eskimo (#67)
One wonders how much force would be required to accomplish this and certainly what kind of response it would elicit.
#71. To: tom007 (#0)
#72. To: All (#71)
#73. To: Original_Intent (#62)
The game is not yet over and the monsters have not yet won -
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