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Title: Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands
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Published: Oct 28, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-10-28 08:54:49 by tom007
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Marine Scott Olsen Will Undergo Brain Surgery, And OccupyMARINES Are Making Demands Robert Johnson and Linette Lopez | Oct. 28, 2011, 7:51 AM | 732 | 13

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Image: YouTube After suffering being struck by a projectile at Tuesday's Occupy Oakland evictions, Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen is lucid and awaiting brain surgery.

The Guardian reports Olsen "responded with a very large smile" when his parents arrived from Wisconsin to visit him at the hospital. Medical officials say Olsen's able to write and hear, but is having trouble speaking.

Meanwhile, Oakland's Mayor Jean Quan who left town after authorizing the raid, has separated herself from the police. Quan said, "I only asked the chief to do one thing: to do it when it was the safest for both the police and the demonstrators."

Her interim police chief then denied his men had used rubber bullets or flashbang grenades. His goal he said, "... isn't to cause injury to anyone."

In response to the police tactics, OccupyMARINES has issued a formal list of requests in Oakland. Whether these requests are pursued or met should be an indicator of how strong or extensive this branch of the movement has become.

Original demands below:

OccupyMARINES Have Watched Closely The Response From The OPD, The Mayor, The Governor, And All Others Involved In The Oakland Attack On Peaceful Demonstrators; We Have Observed These Pathetic Cowards Refuse Responsibility For Their Actions That May Very Well Alter The Course Of Our Brother’s Life. Additionally, Many Other Police Departments Nationwide Deploy Similar Riot Tactics Against Demonstrators Honoring The OWS 8, A Peaceful Declaration Of Assembly; We Will Organize Peacefully Against These Departments.

In Response To The Oakland Shooting Of Scott Olsen OccupyMARINES Request The Following:

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice. Track Names And Photos Of Each And Email Them To Us Identify The 300 OPD Riot Officers By Name, Photo, And Badge Number With Boots On The Ground Engaging In Illegal Excessive Force Acts Against Peaceful Americans For Prosecution. Identify The Officer Responsible For Harming Scott Olsen By Name And Photo For Prosecution. The Honorable Resignation Of Oakland Mayor Jean Quan And Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan. A Public Apology From California Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. For The Unlawful Injury Of Our Brother Scott Olsen.

We Fully Intend To Make An Example, Legally And Peacefully, Of The Corwards Associated With Harming An American Veteran. We Will Not Stop Until Our Aforementioned Demands Are Met In Their Entirety.

God Be With Scott Olsen, We Pray A Speedy Recovery For Him And His Mother.

Semper Fidelis Scott Olsen

Keep Pushing Forward America We Support You.

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#2. To: tom007 (#0)

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice.

Who are the GOP cowards ?

Otherwise, this event is tragic for the ex-marine but works to the good of our society if the Marines begin to see that they too are serving evil and should remain poised to protect the people regardless of orders from above.

noone222  posted on  2011-10-28   9:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#2)

The GOP Cowards Responsible For Influencing This Event Be Brought To Justice.

Who are the GOP cowards ?

Yeh, I didn't quite get this either. Plenty of dems involved in the US scam.

tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   9:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tom007, noone222 (#3)

Yeh, I didn't quite get this either. Plenty of dems involved in the US scam.

that was my thought. what are they going to do when they find out it was Ds not Rs? Why the assumption it was Rs? I suddenly feel like I haven't been following this story closely enough.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-10-28   20:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#19)

I suddenly feel like I haven't been following this story closely enough.

Not many have, me included, but this seems to be some big stuff.

End run around the media that has caged us all in their fairy tales.

tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   20:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#22)

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Make do doubt about it, this was a deliberate attack designed to maximize disabling injuries to the greatest number of people possible. It is NOT a random rogue action by an officer acting in the heat of the moment as the Oakland Police department is attempting to characterize it. It is NOT a tactic suited to civilian crowd control and outright contraindicted according the Geneva Conventions against war crimes, as correctly noted within the posting, This is an illegal tactic even under wartime battlefield conditions. The United States et al. and it's constituents are a signator of this international law.

What you see in the video is a highly formalized tactic that is designed specifically for a war-time battle field. It is standardized training for all branches of military despite it's outlawed status and has a specific goal and clear objective:

* First, to create a disabling injury among one or a few battlefield combatants.

* Next to draw in others in larger numbers to assist and evacuate the wounded.

* To attract a high-priority target for elimination, specifically battlefield medics.

The rational:

To leverage the number of casualties and deaths by eliminating the ability for combatants to achieve recovery by resucitation, treatment of injuries or otherwise rehabilitated enough to return to battle. That means destroying medics, RNs, doctors or others that come to help the wounded. This ensures that other wounded recieve no assistance and serves to guarantee the effectiveness and success of an attack by way of:

INTENTIONALLY INFLICITING DISABLING INJURIES OR DEATH TO KEY TACTICAL TARGETS WITH FURTHER OBJECTIVE TO LEVERAGE THE NUMBER OF INCAPACITATING INJURIES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.

What happens next is to make the remaining combatants become easy pickings for destruction as they are bogged down by rescue efforts. What Oakland Police did was in the purest sense and by definition of International Conventions a premeditated act akin to war as the tactic is formalized to that exact purpose. What has occurred is the clearest indication of how civilian policing has tranformed into a offensive based militaristic organization in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States.

The officer involved currently has a $1000 reward outstanding to secure his identification. There should be gathering around the idea of soliciting a much higher reward to ensure he is brought to justice under the jurisdiction of the (ICC) International Criminal Court. Carrying with it implicit promise, all other such illegal actions under the color of authority will also meet swift and sure punishment equal to a international war crime.

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tom007  posted on  2011-10-28   21:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007, christine, Phant2000, farmfriend, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, Jethro Tull, CadetD, Go Beavers!, All (#23)

The officer involved currently has a $1000 reward outstanding to secure his identification. There should be gathering around the idea of soliciting a much higher reward to ensure he is brought to justice under the jurisdiction of the (ICC) International Criminal Court. Carrying with it implicit promise, all other such illegal actions under the color of authority will also meet swift and sure punishment equal to a international war crime.

I expect the City of Oakland to stonewall on the identification of the Pig who did this. What I suspect, but cannot prove, is that he was not Oakland PD but a specially trained Fed who had been slipped in to provoke an "incident". What it appears to be from the circumstances and actions is the attempt to throw a "lit match" onto a pool of gasoline. The attack on the Marine was, I believe, a premeditated attempt to create a riot and it backfired.

Now the Mayor is acting scared, there was already a recall petition circulating, and the "Good Mayor" is under pressure from above to stay shut up "or else".

This incident is going to bring down big thunder on the city of Oakland and holds the potential to unmask the fact that Feds are being inserted into these type of civil situations to escalate them to a level that then justifies a police clampdown and abuse, in the eyes of the Sheeple, as a response to "out of control" rioters.

I have seen this pattern before. In Portland, during the anti-Iraq War demonstrations in 2003, there was an incident that drew attention but was papered over and nothing ever came of it. What occurred was black clad Pigs advancing on otherwise peaceful demonstrators inflicted the maximum amount of pain possible - in one instance Pepper Spraying a young father holding his toddler daughter and simply trying to get out of the vicinity and the Pig Pepper Sprayed them both in the face as they tried to flea the scene.

These are all Psychological Operations aimed at inciting, creating, a desired response. Have no doubt but that these tactics were created at some Psychiatric Think Tank whether at Tavistock, CIA, or Mossad.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-28   23:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#25)

I expect the City of Oakland to stonewall on the identification of the Pig who did this. What I suspect, but cannot prove, is that he was not Oakland PD but a specially trained Fed who had been slipped in to provoke an "incident". What it appears to be from the circumstances and actions is the attempt to throw a "lit match" onto a pool of gasoline. The attack on the Marine was, I believe, a premeditated attempt to create a riot and it backfired.

Now the Mayor is acting scared, there was already a recall petition circulating, and the "Good Mayor" is under pressure from above to stay shut up "or else".

This incident is going to bring down big thunder on the city of Oakland and holds the potential to unmask the fact that Feds are being inserted into these type of civil situations to escalate them to a level that then justifies a police clampdown and abuse, in the eyes of the Sheeple, as a response to "out of control" rioters.

I have seen this pattern before. In Portland, during the anti-Iraq War demonstrations in 2003, there was an incident that drew attention but was papered over and nothing ever came of it. What occurred was black clad Pigs advancing on otherwise peaceful demonstrators inflicted the maximum amount of pain possible - in one instance Pepper Spraying a young father holding his toddler daughter and simply trying to get out of the vicinity and the Pig Pepper Sprayed them both in the face as they tried to flea the scene.

These are all Psychological Operations aimed at inciting, creating, a desired response. Have no doubt but that these tactics were created at some Psychiatric Think Tank whether at Tavistock, CIA, or Mossad.

don't know if these have been posted:

U.S. military warns of plot by Federal Reserve bankers to have CIA mercenaries from Libya kill New York cops.

"...Don't tell anyone that I'm financed by the Federal Reserve bankers.

The Federal Reserve bankers have offered $billions to the CIA mercenaries in Libya to come to the United States and start a bloody rebellion. The Federal Reserve bankers sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to make their offer and terms. According to high ranking U.S. military officials the plot by the Federal Reserve bankers calls for Libyan mercenaries to enter the United States as guest of the Federal Reserve banks. Once on U.S. soil they are to hook up with CIA and DHS contacts and immediately prepare and execute their mission to start shooting New York City cops who are assigned to police the Occupy Wall Street protests....." presscore.ca/2011/?p=4808

False flag attack alert – Shoulder fired missiles smuggled into U.S. from Libya.

"...they were allegedly acquired by and smuggled into the United States by the CIA. The CIA is planning on using them to down U.S. commercial airlines. The downing of U.S. commercial airlines will be blamed on Iran. The U.S. military is looking into a report that the missiles may have entered the U.S. on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s diplomatic plane. Hillary Clinton made an unscheduled stop in Libya last Tuesday October 18, 2011 and held secret meetings with several officials of the National Transitional Council (NTC).

Earlier this week presscore.ca reported that the U.S. military uncovered a plot by the Federal Reserve bankers to kill Americans involved in the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York City using CIA Libyan mercenaries. The plot involved killing New York City cops in order to start a bloody confrontation between the peaceful protesters and New York City cops. ...."

presscore.ca/2011/?p=4834

Then there's this:

USMC sniper vets ready to serve and protect the American people. presscore.ca/2011/?p=4854

[This would actually be prophetic if true. Ezekiel 38:5 "Put" = "Libya (Africa)" according to my study Bible. Maybe it's a wake-up call [Isaiah 52] from God.

There is no doubt in MY mind that Ezekiel 38-39/Rev. 20:7-10 is where we stand in prophetic times, Christian America being the land of Israel (Ezekiel 34:11-16/John 10;Galatians 3:29), the New Jerusalem of unwalled villages for all the men and cattle thereof (Zechariah 2:4)]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-10-31   9:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, farmfriend, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, Lod, CadetD, all, anyone left who still gives a shit (#32)

Thanks for the data. At this point I am watching the situation and still sifting. There are too many variables and there is more here than meets the eye. I expect that there will be a lot of planted disinformation, but sifting out what is fact and what is planted requires more data so that I can make comparisons against data of comparable magnitude.

I still lean toward the hypothesis that the initial "Occupy Wall Street" was a set up PsyOp, but that the controlling Psychs running the operation did not expect it to explode in quite the way it did and it has unnerved their masters. They failed to take into account "The Butterfly Effect" i.e., that in a chaotic nonlinear system which has gone out of equilibrium, or been forced out of equilibrium, it will react in unpredictable ways.

Another element still developing is the response of veterans to the brutal attempted murder of Scott Olsen. OWS is NOT a homogeneous mix of different shades of left - which I think was the original intent. Instead we have a spectrum of anarchist left to libertarian right and focus is slowly shifting from simply the lure i.e., Wall Street, to the real nexus which is the central banksters.

Still evolving and developing. Of course the truth that still may not speak its name is that the "1%" is not a homogeneous group either and that the key players creating hell on earth have names like Greedspan, Kissinger, Benancke, Rothschild, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, etc., ....

Stay Tuned.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31   13:32:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I still lean toward the hypothesis that the initial "Occupy Wall Street" was a set up PsyOp, but that the controlling Psychs running the operation did not expect it to explode in quite the way it did and it has unnerved their masters.

The self-appointed elite vermin seem to have no problem now fomenting chaos just to see what opportunities will occur to their advantage. This indicates a desperation, a fear that has them planning poorly.

Perhaps they are coming to the realization they really have nowhere to hide. Perhaps they are feeling cornered.

eskimo  posted on  2011-10-31   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: eskimo (#36)

Perhaps they are coming to the realization they really have nowhere to hide. Perhaps they are feeling cornered.

I think you are on to something there. Although as Psychotics one of their weaknesses is that they cannot, literally, conceive of being wrong - even when they are deadly wrong. It goes with the psychotic territory. However, I think that it is beginning to sink in that "all is not well in Toonerville".

As a result they have tried, either through fear or hubris or both, to speed up their enslavement regimen, and as I predicted about 5 years ago that doing so would be their undoing. They, the psychotic Bankster/Psych elite, sought to impose their will and their grip on all of humanity, but the basic weakness is that they could only do it by remaining covert and hidden. They are no longer quite as well hidden, thanks no small part to the Internet and lots of brave people speaking the truth, and with their cover gone they are increasingly exposed. So, we are still in a race between awareness and their already extensive grip.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31   14:45:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#37)

So, we are still in a race between awareness and their already extensive grip.

Indeed we are. Naming them and sending those names a massive amount of negative sentiment may cower some but I'm afraid many of the more psychotic, when cornered, will respond in a most primitive and savage manner with all the weak minds and weapons they can purchase.

eskimo  posted on  2011-10-31   15:05:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: eskimo (#39)

but I'm afraid many of the more psychotic, when cornered, will respond in a most primitive and savage manner with all the weak minds and weapons they can purchase.

Ditto. That concerns me as well, which is why open violence is not a viable solution. Rather than release their grip on power they would literally destroy the planet and kill every man woman and child. Most people do not really get "in their bones" how truly insane these monsters are. Most people will not even look as they do not have the necessary confront - so they throw up a cloud of unknowingness and retreat into their cocoon of Faux Nooze and CNN. It is like my German Aunt who survived the horrors in Germany and married an American Soldier - everything was always "happy, happy", and avoid confronting the true horror of it all. Another part of our suppressed history is the five to eight million Germans who were slowly murdered, mainly by forced starvation, by the "Noble" Allies following WWII.

However, the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all. It is like disarming the fuse on a bomb. We can't delay but we cannot act too quickly or make a wrong move. They truly are criminally insane, and people need to get that.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-31   15:27:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent (#44)

However, the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.

It must be tried and, of course, preferable to any violence, but, I believe we are on the verge of seeing millions of people unwilling to bet their very survival on being able to talk down the psychopaths.

eskimo  posted on  2011-10-31   16:09:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: eskimo, Original Intent (#56)

the current crop of monsters do have to be handled and neutralized carefully by exposure and slowly prying their fingers loose from the buttons that could kill us all.

There is only one way to "neutralize" and this is to end the secrecy that is destroying this nation and beyond. This is the only way to pry the fingers loose and it is more akin to ripping off the bandage of a festering wound than a careful and slow event, IMHO.

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-31   16:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: abraxas (#58) (Edited)

end the secrecy that is destroying this nation and beyond.

yup, end the secrecy...

you could start by refuting the exxon/AEI/CERA bullshit denials of the prime motives to stage 9/11... those motives being, of course, peak oil and global warming.

once everyone realizes how bad peak oil threatens the israeli american empire, the rest will fall into place.

israel must be secured from sea level rise (by grabbing high ground in the west bank) before america goes tits up from peak oil...

so long as there's such a massively-funded effort by the deniers, there's no chance of ripping the veil of secrecy off this operation.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-31   16:19:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#61) (Edited)

i got to admit that you dont have to be a jew or an israeli or a psychopath or NWO yahoo or whatever to have an aversion to ideas like peak oil and global warming...

the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that...

...and of course the people who fund the denial mechanism --people who were the instigators of this PNAC oil and land acquisition project, starting with 9/11--- realize that...

denial of peak oil and global warming is an easy sell...

which is a good thing, because it would be gruesome if people finally understood why israel, israeli americans and their oily felloow travelers had to kill 3000 americans to get their project started.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-31   16:35:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: lead.and.lag (#66)

denial of peak oil and global warming is an easy sell... the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that...

the implications of peak oil mean that fat americans are gonna see severe dents put in their rice bowls, and they dont like thinking about that...

Why do you deny that ALL of the planets in our solar system are warming due to changes in the Sun's magnetic field? And what the hell do you plan to do about it? It's not about "denial" it is about not denying that events are unfolding beyond this little blue planet.

Peak oil will seem insignificant when the dollar collapses.......

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-31   16:43:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: abraxas (#68) (Edited)

Peak oil will seem insignificant when the dollar collapses.......

of course it will...

...and that's what the money boys are counting on... that's why they sold houses to people who couldnt pay for them...

the money boys needed a mechanism to crash the dollar, and the global economy, so the demand for oil will crash, so their motive for this PNAC operation is obscured.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-31   16:46:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lead.and.lag (#69)

he money boys needed a mechanism to crash the dollar, and the global economy, so the demand for oil will crash, so their motive for this PNAC operation is obscured.

Since the 70's the dollar has been propped up by petrol dollar hegemony....which was never "stable" in any sense of the word. But, it did work to keep the masses focused on the consumer society......which also isn't "stable" in any way. What is not "stable" will pass away and it must be so.

In the end, people will never again seek material wealth over awareness and spiritual wealth. The mechanism is greater than your small world view, IMHO.

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